Doc Holliday
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Diablo 3 look for me. The old shots screams 90s era CG. New shots look like there was actual thought put in to the lighting and mood.
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Blizzard Norths old version of Diablo III revealed!
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Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Also why are people using zoomed in screenshots? Its Diablo!
water_wendi
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Sorry, the next time i use Fraps to grab screenshots from Diablo 3 ill make sure to zoom out a bit.Doc Holliday said:
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
water_wendi said:
Or you can grab a zoomed out screenshot from google, it's a lot easier
Gully State
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The Diablo III art discussion always reminds me of this Simpsons quote from the episode where Moe opens a family restaurant..
Carl: You ain't thinking of getting rid of the dank, are you, Moe?
Moe: Ehh, maybe I am.
Carl: Oh, but Moe: the dank. The dank!
Carl: You ain't thinking of getting rid of the dank, are you, Moe?
Moe: Ehh, maybe I am.
Carl: Oh, but Moe: the dank. The dank!
If Blizzard goes through with this four player maximum BS, it won't be. It's simply not possible. Jay Wilson doesn't have a fucking clue what he's talking about.Gravijah said:If the community aspect of Diablo 3 is as good as Diablo 2... Damn it. Maybe I should not buy D3 so I don't get sucked in again.
"Needs 8 players".
I think 4 is plenty fine. Will be a bit more ordered instead of massive spam.
Also, it irks me that DIII was supposed to be heaven only. Really? I very much like the 'down to earth' route they took now.
Also, never stuff looks great and yeah, the boss kill with head bite was ace.
I'm looking forward to this for sure.
I think 4 is plenty fine. Will be a bit more ordered instead of massive spam.
Also, it irks me that DIII was supposed to be heaven only. Really? I very much like the 'down to earth' route they took now.
Also, never stuff looks great and yeah, the boss kill with head bite was ace.
I'm looking forward to this for sure.
Diablo 3 is fine, watched a bunch of videos here
http://www.youtube.com/user/Diablo3Inc#p/u/34/yMjknAZtztQ
Anyways I will be addicted to both Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2. I will play those games like an MMO, but the cool thing is these games don't have monthly fees
have you kept up with the news for the game, it has much more customization
http://www.youtube.com/user/Diablo3Inc#p/u/34/yMjknAZtztQ
Anyways I will be addicted to both Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2. I will play those games like an MMO, but the cool thing is these games don't have monthly fees
J-Rod said:
have you kept up with the news for the game, it has much more customization
charlequin
Banned
Fugu said:
These shots do a great job of showing off what, to me, were the strengths and weaknesses of the previous Diablo titles visually. On the one hand, the level of detail in the environment, those tile floor patterns in the first shot, the grotesquerie, the subdued environmental tones -- I love all that stuff.
On the other hand, these shots remind me of how much I hated the lack of contrast or tone variance (especially in the first Diablo) and especially the darkness everywhere -- hated that then, hate it now, would still hate it in a new game.
(I think it's instructive that the Blizzard North shots have the detail style of the older games but very much don't have the crushing environmental darkness, actually.)
Gravijah said:
Oh yeah, 8 player solo hell runs were fun and taxing. Still, if I get a good looting and xp curve, I won't mind.
What will be really great is that this time, everyone will get his own loot so you can coop with random people and not have it be a "quickest looter wins" fest.
Oh, and maybe we can tweak the corpse persistence from an ini. Never forget that ;-)
I have - and it seems they have dumbed down the game in some aspects. This is what scares me the most as well.KAL2006 said:
Some people here seem like they would have liked anything as long as it was made by Blizzard and called Diablo 3.... There's nothing wrong with skepticism you know. I am very excited for Diablo 3 and I'm sure it'll be a great game - But there are plenty of reasons to keep caution with the amount of changes* going on.
*I am not implying changes to the formula are bad, it's just that any change to something as awesome as Diablo is something to examine closely.
Dumbing down is a legitimate fear, especially given their track record recently with WoW and SC2. I'd rather not argue about it because it becomes an argument of 'accessibility' but Blizzard really has been simplifying their games a lot, sometimes for the best and others for the worst.
Haunted
Member
People not seeing the Warcraft influences on the art style are disqualified from further art style discussions until they get a set of working eyes.
It's fine to like the new style, it's even fine to prefer it over the old Diablo I/II/III prototype style. But please, stand by your art style of choice and don't deny the painfully obvious influence from the WoW art team.
Granted from what I've seen, only 2 or so people actually did so in here, but they got a reasonable amount of attention, so there.
It's fine to like the new style, it's even fine to prefer it over the old Diablo I/II/III prototype style. But please, stand by your art style of choice and don't deny the painfully obvious influence from the WoW art team.
Granted from what I've seen, only 2 or so people actually did so in here, but they got a reasonable amount of attention, so there.
dude said:
Do the skill limits limit both Skills and Traits (passive skills). You gotta remember Traits are basically also skills, in the old Diablo games Traits were part of the skill tree, so you were more limited. But now traits are a seperate things.
If this limit is you are only allowed 7 things whether it's Traits or Skill, then I see your point
But if you are allowed 7 Skills as well as Traits too then I don't see the problem
What are health orbs (I bet his is nothing big)
also what other stuff, I really want to know how they are dumbing it down, in fact I thought this game added tons more customization
The 7 skill limit is for active skills not for passive traits. Ive never used more than 7 skills on a D2 character, considering most builds only make use of 2-3 active skills regularly, Im not sure how that would be considered dumbing down. Even my bone necro only uses 6. With the rune system the customization of skill sets is significantly higher anyway.
dude said:
That's 7 active skills. Passive skills are not counted in that limit. With the traits and runes the system is way more customizable than D2.
Health orbs are not dumbing down. Potions have been shown in screenshots, but not sure if they will make the game. Instead of monsters dropping health potions they will drop orbs which are used only that instant. Could have the potential to create tougher encounters where you have to think in what order to kill the monsters such that the dropped orbs can keep you alive.
Some other stuff is bad. I especially don't like that other thing.
Instro said:
exactly, the dumbing down of customization is nonsense, in fact it has improved so much
the separation skills and traits (passive skills) is great
the runes add so much more depth, not just by its properties but visually
charms are now separated from item bag which means you don't take up you items bag space
dyes allow you to color your armour for more visual customization
new weapons pickups will look better from normal to hell mode, so you won't have shitty looking weapons when you restart a new difficulty
Well, there were many "one-point-wonders" in Diablo 2, that spiced up many of my builds. My Assassin has a rather wide variety of skills, I didn't count, but I think I use more than 7 active skills.
While they kept the potions, I'm not feeling these orbs at all...
The general vibe I get from Blizzard lately and Diablo 3 in no exception, is that they seek accessibly, and often they end up slightly over-simplifying their games. Like I said, I'm not very worried about it, and I don't know whether Diablo 3 will have less depth than Diablo 2, but these two choices (I could of sworn there were more, I don't remember them now though, because as I said, I'm not that worried about it) make me a little worried - I guess you guys are not, and that's cool - I hope you guys are right.
And I'm sorry, but orbs that heal you instantly versus potions is simplifying. The only question is whether it'll work, which I never said that it wouldn't, I just feel like there's room to be worried about it.
While they kept the potions, I'm not feeling these orbs at all...
The general vibe I get from Blizzard lately and Diablo 3 in no exception, is that they seek accessibly, and often they end up slightly over-simplifying their games. Like I said, I'm not very worried about it, and I don't know whether Diablo 3 will have less depth than Diablo 2, but these two choices (I could of sworn there were more, I don't remember them now though, because as I said, I'm not that worried about it) make me a little worried - I guess you guys are not, and that's cool - I hope you guys are right.
Why you mad though?CerberusE said:
And I'm sorry, but orbs that heal you instantly versus potions is simplifying. The only question is whether it'll work, which I never said that it wouldn't, I just feel like there's room to be worried about it.
AdventureRacing
Member
Kalnos said:
I don't see how anyone could complain about SC2. Yes they made it slightly more accesible to casual players but there is still a rediculous amount of depth for more serious players.
to people who think this game is going to be terrible read this post i created (watch the panel videos too, which are in the link)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23968100&postcount=1
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23968100&postcount=1
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Except when they make things more complicated.peakish said:
Pretty cool to see these old screenshots. That is some utterly amazing architectural design, and though it looks absolutely stunning, I can completely see why they went with the current style.
The camera angle also looks really weird on the old screenshots. It seems like they were sacrificing gameplay for unworldly, vast environments. The new style has extremely good contrast and looks very discernible, very quickly. The camera angle is also much better suited for gameplay (easier to understand space controlled by abilities away from your point of view primarily).
Glad these got released, a nice little glimpse into Blizzard
The camera angle also looks really weird on the old screenshots. It seems like they were sacrificing gameplay for unworldly, vast environments. The new style has extremely good contrast and looks very discernible, very quickly. The camera angle is also much better suited for gameplay (easier to understand space controlled by abilities away from your point of view primarily).
Glad these got released, a nice little glimpse into Blizzard
Starcraft was more complicated than WC2 but still immensely accessible.water_wendi said:
Edit: I'm not saying that they may be taking it too far in some cases, but I still see a decent amount of depth in SC2 and that was accused of taking things too far. So I obviously don't see it as a problem at this point.
water_wendi
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And Warcraft 2 had more going on than what was in Warcraft 1 (hell Blizzard even cut some stuff like a fourth resource out. because WC2 went a little too crazy) Same goes for Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 and Warcraft 2 -> Warcraft 3.peakish said: