Sadly they will just keep coming.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-10-21-blizzard-wins-USD7m-in-bot-suit
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-10-21-blizzard-wins-USD7m-in-bot-suit
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Blizzard wins $7 million in bot company lawsuit
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Remachinate
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$7 million is a drop in the bucket for Blizzard. They'll be lucky if it covers their legal costs.
eot
Banned
We're talking about people making and selling bots for profit, of course they should go after them.
Captchas are supremely annoying and often very hard to enter correctly, I don't think paying WoW customers would take kindly to having to enter a random string of information every time they want to play the game.
But devastating for bot operators.
So it is a warning to everyone
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Did you read the OP?
yeah I did, I was perhaps not specific, the last I heard the guy who run Glider had successfully appealed some decision... just wondered if anyone knew what become of them (the 2 guys who run it) rather than Glider, as that was obviously shut
I know he had a house in Arizona, and he was fighting the damages awarded to Blizzard
Wyndstryker
Member
Bots are horrible. But a properly designed game can take some preventative measure forcing the majority of the easy bots out leaving the rest to be manually taken care of.
Or you can just be like Blizzard and sue the bot companies to the ground.
Or you can just be like Blizzard and sue the bot companies to the ground.
Would such captchas actually help here? It's not exactly difficult to just log in manually before activating the bot.
OverturePT
Member
Yea, and that's the point, really.
Zapperkhan
Member
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Lol I remember during the first raiding tier of cataclysm I would set up my fishbot and go to class for the day, come back to my dorm and find myself with almost full bags of fish. I'd hearth to org sell all my fish for ~1500g and fly back to uldum and go to my next class. But I'd hoard those fish for the next day so people wouldn't get suspicious.
I was never caught. Nor was I banned for this, blizzard just doesn't care unless they're going to make money out of it. So when they say they've got the best interest in the community at heart by going after bots I can barely believe it.
Although you could say they never wanted to just catch one botter they wanted to let the problem exist until they could just shut it down, and I believe that. Also I have a weird perspective, since our server was kind of small, only the big deal guilds ever seemed to have crafting materials accessible to them for consumables, but since I started botting I was allowing everyone to get rare fish for a good price in bulk, which allowed other guilds to start getting buff food.
Once the fish bot got patched and no longer worked I didn't mind so much since I had already made enough gold to get me through the expansion. Hell, my inactive account still has about 60k split amongs 3 toons. What I did notice was that fish prices drastically went up and suddenly no one had fish feasts or mastery buff food. My usually customers asked me why I wasn't selling and all I could say was I got busy with school and didn't have time to fish anymore.
So honestly I will say that before that experience I hated botting just like everyone else, but after it despite becoming disgustingly wealthy I realized that it serves a role in the game, especially in low population servers, I had gotten to know the people I sold to and I realized that I was providing a service to these people that no one there either cared to do, could do (leveling fishing has always sucked) or had the time to do, on bigger servers you don't need this because more people catching just one stack amounts to ten times the amount of stuff you'd find on our AH, seriously. Our server's auction house had like maybe 1 or two stacks of lava scale fish at a time and both were triple my old asking price and they would stay up there for days.
Say what you will but what originally started as a "fuck it i don't care if I get banned" get rich scheme made me realize something else about the whole thing. That isn't to say all botters will gain the insight I got or all botting is even good. But just to dismiss it with a "they're all awful people and if they're gone the game will be better" isn't exactly the most accurate attitude.
I was never caught. Nor was I banned for this, blizzard just doesn't care unless they're going to make money out of it. So when they say they've got the best interest in the community at heart by going after bots I can barely believe it.
Although you could say they never wanted to just catch one botter they wanted to let the problem exist until they could just shut it down, and I believe that. Also I have a weird perspective, since our server was kind of small, only the big deal guilds ever seemed to have crafting materials accessible to them for consumables, but since I started botting I was allowing everyone to get rare fish for a good price in bulk, which allowed other guilds to start getting buff food.
Once the fish bot got patched and no longer worked I didn't mind so much since I had already made enough gold to get me through the expansion. Hell, my inactive account still has about 60k split amongs 3 toons. What I did notice was that fish prices drastically went up and suddenly no one had fish feasts or mastery buff food. My usually customers asked me why I wasn't selling and all I could say was I got busy with school and didn't have time to fish anymore.
So honestly I will say that before that experience I hated botting just like everyone else, but after it despite becoming disgustingly wealthy I realized that it serves a role in the game, especially in low population servers, I had gotten to know the people I sold to and I realized that I was providing a service to these people that no one there either cared to do, could do (leveling fishing has always sucked) or had the time to do, on bigger servers you don't need this because more people catching just one stack amounts to ten times the amount of stuff you'd find on our AH, seriously. Our server's auction house had like maybe 1 or two stacks of lava scale fish at a time and both were triple my old asking price and they would stay up there for days.
Say what you will but what originally started as a "fuck it i don't care if I get banned" get rich scheme made me realize something else about the whole thing. That isn't to say all botters will gain the insight I got or all botting is even good. But just to dismiss it with a "they're all awful people and if they're gone the game will be better" isn't exactly the most accurate attitude.
partyphone
Banned
I like this bit about it from RPS
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/21/robo-not-much-cop-blizzard-win-lawsuit-against-wow-bot/
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/21/robo-not-much-cop-blizzard-win-lawsuit-against-wow-bot/
Vigilant Walrus
Member
If you played Guild Wars2 at launch (or after) in October-December 2012 you would have seen the disaster.
People had their accounts stolen, by keyloggers. The Guild Wars 1 community (of a game with 8 million copies sold) did not have these issues. But chinese hackers were inflating the economy, people were running bot characters. sometimes with 10 identical characters repeating actions. it was crazy.
People felt the game would die. Aion before it(another NCsoft game) had its economy ruined by bots, and the developers was not able to salvage it.
GW2 was able to save itself from bots for many reasons. One was that they had deeply in the game integrated a cash shop. While people opposed it at first, calling ArenaNet greedy capitalists and using free 2 play shit games as an example of why an in game economy couldnt work were you were able to buy in game gold with real money, - ArenaNet did something amazing.
People didnt use gold websites because the value of the gem currency made it so they could also turn in-game gold into real money. but it was disjointed from the auction house, so it was not like Diablo 3. but it killed the bots business. and its why GW2 now has no bots.
It's actually an amazing story, but none the media have covered. I have never seen such a 180-degree turn for a game in its economic fase. ArenaNet has a real economist working full time, taking care of inflations of everything.
People had their accounts stolen, by keyloggers. The Guild Wars 1 community (of a game with 8 million copies sold) did not have these issues. But chinese hackers were inflating the economy, people were running bot characters. sometimes with 10 identical characters repeating actions. it was crazy.
People felt the game would die. Aion before it(another NCsoft game) had its economy ruined by bots, and the developers was not able to salvage it.
GW2 was able to save itself from bots for many reasons. One was that they had deeply in the game integrated a cash shop. While people opposed it at first, calling ArenaNet greedy capitalists and using free 2 play shit games as an example of why an in game economy couldnt work were you were able to buy in game gold with real money, - ArenaNet did something amazing.
People didnt use gold websites because the value of the gem currency made it so they could also turn in-game gold into real money. but it was disjointed from the auction house, so it was not like Diablo 3. but it killed the bots business. and its why GW2 now has no bots.
It's actually an amazing story, but none the media have covered. I have never seen such a 180-degree turn for a game in its economic fase. ArenaNet has a real economist working full time, taking care of inflations of everything.
Not going to deter people from making bots in jurisdictions Blizzard can't reach.