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Is the timing just really tough or is the regular pistol not enough to do it?



They are amazing. Mine are at +10 and destroying every enemy.

I don't know how tough the timing is with the pistol. I used Ludwig's rifle and was able to parry him in all the forms if I recall correctly. But most of my fight was also filled with lots of tense back and forth trades.
 
I'm having one helluva time with
Gehrman.
Anyone willing to help? Level 80.

Also, is the Pistol just really bad for quick parrying? I find that half the time it's too slow and my shot misses (not timing related, target just moves or gets too close and the shot doesn't connect).
 
Finished.

So...I'm going to head to the lore discussion thread now. I have a lot of questions.

I'll gather my thoughts for my final impressions.
 
I beat that son of a bitch hunter o/

I did it legit and nearly got him a few times but fuck that dirty prick. I pulled him to the steps and eventually he just stopped moving. Everything I did to him had counter attack damage too lmao

Burn in hell you hacker fuck
 
So I'm in the Lower Pthenumerian [sic] Chalice Dungeon, Layer 4 (non-random version)

I got to a point (in the main section pre-gate) with two bridge rooms, and a sewer section underneath them. In one of these sewer rooms, a path led to a round room with a ogre-type guy in the middle, and two chests. However, there is a second floor to this room I cannot figure out how to reach and there is no alternative path to the room.

e: forgot to mention there's a dead body with loot on him up there, but no apparent door on the second floor. very strange.

Are these non-random Chalice dungeons exactly the same for everyone? How do I get up there?
 
Nope, she's gone from the ward, and she's gone from the starting sewers area too (I checked there in the off chance her AI would have reset and she'd be there for some reason). The lamp at Odeon is still not working, and absolutely nothing happens in the Odeon tomb area, whether I arrive from the Cathedral Ward or from Central Yharnam.


Fuck this. :( I wanted to fight the
katana user everyone talks about, but I get the shaft and get denied in two playthroughs. So annoying.

Yea it happened to me as well with my 1st character.

I think there's a cut-off point somewhere that made the entire encounter disappear though I am sure it's before defeating Rom.
 
Sadly, I couldn't fight every boss
Only got two umbilical cords

But here's my ranking of bosses in terms of difficulty.

Really tough:

Ebrietas
Martyr Logarius
Gehrman

Tough:

Father Gascoigne
Amygdala
Cleric Beast
Vicar Amelia

Average:
Mergo's Wet Nurse
Darkbeast Paarl
Blood Starved Beast
Celestial Emissary

Easy:

Micolash
Rom
Witches

Next list is bosses I loved in no particular order, I'm still have to fight against several Chalice Dungeon's bosses.

Father Gascoigne
Gehrman
Martyr Logarius
Cleric Beast
Blood Starved Beast
Vicar Amelia
Ebrietas
Mergo's Wet Nurse
Micolash
Watchdog of the Old Lords
Pthumerian Descendant
Amygdala
 
I had a fairly productive night.

Beat Rom, 8th boss down for me. He was a pain in the ass. Tried a few different weapons and finally put him down with the saw cleaver with bolt paper. Probably 10-15 attempts.

I got my second piece of umbilical cord from the clinic afterward, and then dicked around in the Unseen Village. There I made it to the second lantern and died at the three hunters a few times and called it a night.
 
Trading this fucking game in. I had 400k blood echoes, fighting Eicar Amila on new game + with only a slither of health left to defeat her.........and what the fuck happens? I fall through the game world and die! LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is fucking unacceptable!!!! this is a game breaking bug that should have never missed QA

I am not even joking. I am done. Trading this shit in as my blood pressure went through the fucking roof.
 
Trading this fucking game in. I had 400k blood echoes, fighting Eicar Amila on new game + with only a slither of health left to defeat her.........and what the fuck happens? I fall through the game world and die! LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is fucking unacceptable!!!! this is a game breaking bug that should have never missed QA

I am not even joking. I am done.

why would you enter a boss room with 400k echoes?!?!?
 
Some numbers with Ludwig's +10 and 50/50/50 for Strength/Skill/Arcane.

Physical Gems: +21.6%, +22.3%, 23.1%
200 Base +683 Bonus, 863 ATK total. 943 with Arcane/Fire/Bolt buff.

Arcane Gems: + 2x Fire ATK Up +18.8%, 1x Fire ATK Up + 20.6% & Add Fire ATK +13.5
200 base +408 bonus, 608 total.

That's the best ones I currently have (with no -Beast ATK), 335 ATK difference.

So evening the playing field a bit with 2x 18.8% Phys Gems and 1x 21.5% Phys ATK and Add Phys ATK +8.1 Puts it to 200+616 = 816 + Paper = 896. Still a 288 ATK difference plus you get to change the Arcane/Fire/Bolt damage type at will.

So I decided to go take some swings at Villagers around the Central Yharnam Lamp.

Phys Ludwig (816) = 734 per hit.
Phys + Fire Paper (896) = 757 per hit.
Phys + Bolt Paper (896) = 754 per hit.
Phys + Arcane Shell (896) = 757 per hit.
Fire Ludwig (608) = 537 per hit.

Then I purposely dropped my Phys-only ATK down to 608 to match the pure Fire Ludwig.

Phys2 Ludwig (608) = 530 per hit.

So clearly pure Arcane-type damage doesn't have any real bonus over Physical ATK on something with Normal resistances.

Time to go hit some Beasts in Old Yharnam. They're weak to fire.

Fire Ludwig (608) = 821 per hit.
Phys Ludwig (816) = 726 per hit.
Phys + Fire Paper (886) = 777 per hit.
Phys + Bolt Paper (886)= 752 per hit.
Phys + Arcane Shell (886)= 749 per hit.
Phys2 Ludwig (608) = 512 per hit.

I also went ahead and tested with my much better Phys Gems:

Phys3 Ludwig (863) = 773 per hit.
Phys3 +Fire Paper (943) = 824 per hit.

So, I guess in a low-level build where you're only raising one ATK stat than an Arcane Gem weapon with Good Arcane scaling is a viable option. However, if you don't have good Arcane scaling or don't care about keeping your levels at a certain point then Physical + Buffs is the better way to go. There are a lot of mobs that simply have no specific weakness and your Physical ATK will be end up much higher and will do a lot more damage to those enemies. There may be an enemy here or there that you do a little bit more damage on, but you'd do a lot less damage on everything else.

If you're going all the way to 50 Strength, 50 Skill, 50 Arcane then you could just totally swap things around if you felt like it depending on the area and the boss. Keep a Physical weapon for certain enemies and Arcane-type for others Though personally I'd just stick with a pure Physical weapon and + Buff items since, in my experience, high level Physical gems are much, much easier to come by and you can't really get any good Arcane Gems unless you get deep into Chalice Dungeons.

So basically the conclusion is, Arcane sucks and don't waste your stat points too much, or even if any, on it?
 
I'm having one helluva time with
Gehrman.
Anyone willing to help? Level 80.

Also, is the Pistol just really bad for quick parrying? I find that half the time it's too slow and my shot misses (not timing related, target just moves or gets too close and the shot doesn't connect).
I can't help you out, but the pistol seems fine for quick parrying for me. I didn't try to parry him as much and just tried stunlocking him whenever I had the chance.
 
Trading this fucking game in. I had 400k blood echoes, fighting Eicar Amila on new game + with only a slither of health left to defeat her.........and what the fuck happens? I fall through the game world and die! LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is fucking unacceptable!!!! this is a game breaking bug that should have never missed QA

I am not even joking. I am done. Trading this shit in as my blood pressure went through the fucking roof.

Just go back in to the Vicar room, grab your Blood Echoes, and warp out using the Bold Hunter Mark.

And yeah, why would you enter a boss area with 400k blood echoes....?
 
Trading this fucking game in. I had 400k blood echoes, fighting Eicar Amila on new game + with only a slither of health left to defeat her.........and what the fuck happens? I fall through the game world and die! LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is fucking unacceptable!!!! this is a game breaking bug that should have never missed QA

I am not even joking. I am done. Trading this shit in as my blood pressure went through the fucking roof.

hahahaha !
you'll have to change your avatar man
 
If I just got to the
unseen village after beating Rom
how much approximately is left in the game? I don't want it to end...

Don't worry, that area will soon change your perspective :P

This is the real point of the game when I consider it as quite worthy enough to be called "cheap."
 
Trading this fucking game in. I had 400k blood echoes, fighting Eicar Amila on new game + with only a slither of health left to defeat her.........and what the fuck happens? I fall through the game world and die! LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is fucking unacceptable!!!! this is a game breaking bug that should have never missed QA

I am not even joking. I am done. Trading this shit in as my blood pressure went through the fucking roof.

Why would you go into a boss fight with 400k echos? Were you just really, really positive you were going to win that fight?

Kind of a rule of thumb to never get too cocky in any of the Souls games.
 
Damn this thread still move quick lol. Reposting for new page. Surely someone else felt like me here.

Anyone else find the
Spider room in the Nightmare Mensis far scarier than the Rom fight?

I was all NOOOOOOPE

What a useless area. I died a couple times to the
big spider
only to get 4 silver bullets out of that jerk when I finally killed it. That thing was harder than some bosses I fought! Because of that I just ran through that room,
past the hunter
, down the stairs and caught the shortcut elevator down. Nice set piece, completely useless area to spend your time in.
Unless you want to kill the pvp bell ringer, but you don't have to deal with the spiders there anyways.
 
Trading this fucking game in. I had 400k blood echoes, fighting Eicar Amila on new game + with only a slither of health left to defeat her.........and what the fuck happens? I fall through the game world and die! LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is fucking unacceptable!!!! this is a game breaking bug that should have never missed QA

I am not even joking. I am done. Trading this shit in as my blood pressure went through the fucking roof.

While I understand your frustration, I have to say, this post still sounds ridiculously stupid.
 
Trading this fucking game in. I had 400k blood echoes, fighting Eicar Amila on new game + with only a slither of health left to defeat her.........and what the fuck happens? I fall through the game world and die! LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is fucking unacceptable!!!! this is a game breaking bug that should have never missed QA

I am not even joking. I am done. Trading this shit in as my blood pressure went through the fucking roof.

you'll be back
 
Been slowly working on my second playthrough. Has anyone figured out what the door that is closed when you go left from the Cathedral Ward is for/how can it be opened?
 
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD I BEAT BLOODBORNE YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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That final boss was fucking awesome. Also
WHAT THE FUCK AT THAT ENDING.

Oh and thanks to
the people that told me you can parry him. Man that went down to the wire. Used all my blood vials lol.
 
Done with my first playthrough.
Ended up refusing to die and killing Gehrman. Going by that ending I am going to assume that's the bad ending.

I can tell NG+ is going to be tough. It took like 5-6 attacks to kill the first dude in Central Yharnam with a +7 Holy Blade. lol

In terms of items you get for completion,
I received the old hunter's badge from Gehrman which let me buy his scythe and clothing from the vendor. Is there anything else I missed or any new items I can get in NG+? Do different endings give you different items?

Also tried my first chalice dungeon which I completely ignored. Seems pretty cool and has a tomb raider vibe but I can see how they might get boring after doing them a lot. My first attempt was using the chalice you get from BSB so I assume it was like the very first dungeon you could do. It only had three depth levels, though. I fought that fire beast boss at the end and looted a big tomb (which just had more ritual blood) so I assume that's the end. Is that right or should every dungeon have 5 levels?
 
This game really ramps up the difficulty after
Rom
. You have to have clear intentions when you spawn into an area or you're going to get wrecked.
 
Been slowly working on my second playthrough. Has anyone figured out what the door that is closed when you go left from the Cathedral Ward is for/how can it be opened?

The one full of vases? There's no way to open it.
 
Trading this fucking game in. I had 400k blood echoes, fighting Eicar Amila on new game + with only a slither of health left to defeat her.........and what the fuck happens? I fall through the game world and die! LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is fucking unacceptable!!!! this is a game breaking bug that should have never missed QA

I am not even joking. I am done. Trading this shit in as my blood pressure went through the fucking roof.

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As a noob, when should I do chalice dungeons? Are they like extra challenge maps or are they helpful for progression? I only have the first one unlocked.
 
Is the timing just really tough or is the regular pistol not enough to do it?

U-uhm. It felt the same...erg >.>

Try the blunderbuss if you think it'll help?

S-sorry I can't be of more help...

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD I BEAT BLOODBORNE YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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That final boss was fucking awesome. Also
WHAT THE FUCK AT THAT ENDING.

Oh and thanks to
the people that told me you can parry him. Man that went down to the wire. Used all my blood vials lol.

Oh, you beat it? :) Glad to hear, and fun to see you around here :3
 
Been slowly working on my second playthrough. Has anyone figured out what the door that is closed when you go left from the Cathedral Ward is for/how can it be opened?

It looks like it's just the door that connects Cathedral Ward with where you fought
Cleric Beast
. Notice how there's that massive gate there.

The only thing I can think is that it's going to be part of some dlc where it's just a shortcut between that area and CW.
 
lol. I didn't know that. I have another one called sword hunter badge. I thought they were just items. Not that they let you buy new weapons.
 
Trading this fucking game in. I had 400k blood echoes, fighting Eicar Amila on new game + with only a slither of health left to defeat her.........and what the fuck happens? I fall through the game world and die! LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is fucking unacceptable!!!! this is a game breaking bug that should have never missed QA

I am not even joking. I am done. Trading this shit in as my blood pressure went through the fucking roof.

Too heavy carrying all those blood echoes. The world couldn't support your fat ass.
 
U-uhm. It felt the same...erg >.>

Try the blunderbuss if you think it'll help?

S-sorry I can't be of more help...

Oh, you beat it? :) Glad to hear, and fun to see you around here :3

Yeah, time to give it a break. Even though
I just found out there are multiple endings.

And nice to see you too.
Anime and Bloodborne are life
 
U-uhm. It felt the same...erg >.>

Try the blunderbuss if you think it'll help?

S-sorry I can't be of more help...



Oh, you beat it? :) Glad to hear, and fun to see you around here :3

I believe the pistol has a faster draw than the blunderbuss, thus parrying should be easier. Evelyn seems to be even faster, and Ludwig's rifle the slowest.

I use the pistol and killed that boss entirely off parries so it's definitely not impossible.
 
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