Ultimadrago
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A demo sounds nice
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Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night Development Update 4
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Yeah, sure, but... Polishing what?
Enemies? Bosses? Puzzles? Platforming?
Development started around a year ago and they still don't have anything but the core mechanics, and these are still looking rough. So I don't think they will get better than this with all the work they still have on their shoulders.
I hope they haven't shown what they actually have at the current stage, because what we have seen could haven been done in a month of development by a competent team.
Hopefully they will prove me wrong.
MooMilk2929
Junior Member
This is looking good now. I hate how long it takes to render polygonal graphics tho. I kinda wish they could have used sprites. Just HD ones.
R_thanatos
Member
They are polishing the core mecanics and getting feedback for the core mecanics with the demo.
Meanwhile their dev time will be focused to continue creating assets ( monsters, backgrounds , music , animations and so on )
They actually have the right approach here.
OmegaDL50
Member
Such as?
Hand drawn 2D Art can arguably take much longer. KOFXIII for example even used Rotoscoping 3D polygon character models into 2D Sprites because the process in of itself was incredibly time consuming and exorbitantly expensive. A single character taking apparently 7 to 8 months to complete.
It could be done sure, but then the budget for this game would exceed beyond the Kickstarter funding including the publisher backing, and likely wouldn't be coming out until late 2018 arguably longer just for the art assets alone.
Then you would run into the issue of the game being full priced at $60 and people would then argue a 2D sprite game in 2018 by a Indie studio shouldn't cost $60 bringing about the issue of the game never breaking even.
GravityMan
Member
Looks great overall. Looking forward to trying out the demo for myself (I'm a $60 backer).
Character animations look a bit rough. Plenty of time for them to iron that out. Some people need to remember that polish is usually applied towards the end of a game's development.
The jumping looks a little floaty...but it also looks consistent with most Castlevania games including SOTN and the GBA games. And SOTN's jumping felt fine to me.
Character animations look a bit rough. Plenty of time for them to iron that out. Some people need to remember that polish is usually applied towards the end of a game's development.
The jumping looks a little floaty...but it also looks consistent with most Castlevania games including SOTN and the GBA games. And SOTN's jumping felt fine to me.
Yes, it is the right approach. The problem is it has been a year already, and this should haven been the stage a long time ago.
Maybe there are a lot of assets and mechanics they still haven't shown (as I said, no enemies, bosses or puzzles shown yet), but unless that is the case, the core mechanics they are showing do not live up to the development time.
Aaronrules380
Member
Newsflash: Developing games takes a lot of time, especially for a small studio
We haven't seen any "mechanics." We saw the character moving from left to right.
Did you just watch the trailer and not read the update or something? There is a demo for E3 next week and being released to backers. I can assure you that they're not bringing a demo where all you can do is move around an empty environment to a major tradeshow.
ShadowgeistX
Member
Looks pretty amazing, I'm hyped! Can't wait to get my hands on the demo.
Are you a backer? Because they've shown enemies already. This demo isn't meant to be a representation of the actual full game.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Compare this to symphony of the night. The movement feels identical. All the metroidvanias have floaty jumps and a "smooth" walk.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
Oh man, I'm getting some serious Rondo of Blood, Stage 5 vibes from that environment style. I love it.
Curry-Hakase
Member
i hope we can moonwalk lol
Have you participated in many Kickstarters?
They rarely show everything that they have. Much of the time, whatever alpha, beta, or demo they make available is extremely rudimentary, and not really indicative of the current state of the game.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
She might be a tiny bit higher with a tiny bit less gravity, but her arcing and ability to reach platforms above her head height is almost right in line with the way Alucard moves in SotN. I think they just need to make it "look" snappier to match whatever it is people think they're seeing.
OmegaDL50
Member
Need to remember the content is also going to be staggered and not all there at release.
Most of the extras from the stretch goals will be coming afterwards kind like how Shovel Knights content was staggered as well.
Getting the base game out by 2017 is entirely feasible.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
that song sounds awesome
Rabid Dwarf 76
Member
I am incredibly pleased with what I'm seeing. Iga be praised!
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Good 2D animators tend to put more emphasis on the warmup and cool down of the animations than I feel some 3D animators do by trade when dealing with realistic like characters (although there are plenty of exceptions), less realistic/more exaggerated animation but conveys the animation feeling better.
http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/aim/a_notes/anim_principles.html
I'm actually surprised they were able to keep their promise of having something playable for this E3 that they made last E3. I had a feeling they weren't going to hit that mark but they sure showed me up 
Oh look, a backseat developer talking like he/she actually knows their stuff
Oh look, a backseat developer talking like he/she actually knows their stuff
Dangerblade
Member
Awesome news! Hope my laptop can run the demo though...
Astral Dog
Member
omg i miss Castlevania :,(
Nocturnowl
Member
Personally I find the visual style pretty solid for 3D visuals, it has the right atmosphere but then again framerate aside I thought the much maligned Mirror of Fate looked decent on 3DS.
Slow motion run is like the Igavania tradition, makes half the playable characters in vania look like they're on a brisk stroll or strut.
Slow motion run is like the Igavania tradition, makes half the playable characters in vania look like they're on a brisk stroll or strut.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
It's coming back. In a beautiful new form. Can't wait until they show the Harmony of Despair like multiplayer T_T
Yeah, Bloodstained looks shockingly similar to Dracula X Chronicles in motion (same engine?). Is there staff overlap with the contractor that made that one? Hopefully the final product will run at a smooth 60 FPS.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Good to hear. I really was wondering when a demo of the game will be shown.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
I noticed the visual similarities myself, but no. This game uses Unreal 4.
I doubt the PSP ran UE4
. And UE4 seems like a pretty nice engine, should run at 60 easily, at least on PC.It would make the game way more expensive... they don't have that much money, and they announced it as 2.5D already. That won't change now.
Congratulations... that's like every game in the series, if you remove the enemies...
Oni Link 666
Member
It looks nice, but maybe the lighting could stand out more. I see a lot of brown and greenish boards that could really use a touch of those colored lights. Or maybe the enemies will break things up a bit.
Spoken like someone who has never touched game development at all.