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Bloomberg: Sources say Surface RT has sold 1M units, Surface Pro 400,000
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Phoenix
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That's a commonly used logical fallacy called "moving the goalposts."
It's clear that neither Surface RT, Surface Pro, Windows Phone 8, nor Windows 8 has set the world on fire (and probably won't, at this point).
The future of the Microsoft ecosystem is a bit precarious at the moment.
And somehow that jackass Ballmer is still employed...
Buddha Beam
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CrazedProfessional
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Huh, I've seen nothing but Surface RT's at my University in Australia. I go to study in the library and "huh, I guess students like the idea of an Office Tablet."
It's a shame the Pro hasn't launched here yet, such things were made for savvy businessmen.
It's a shame the Pro hasn't launched here yet, such things were made for savvy businessmen.
Bitmap Frogs
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Well, yeah.
RT is a disaster. Design and execution is terrible.
Windows Phone is tanking. RT is dead in the water. Bing is just a fuck you to Google that has failed to hit them in their home turf. Surface (let's remember this thing is the reason several OEMs abandoned or scaled down their RT offerings) is commercial failure.
Basically, Ballmer is consumed by Apple envy and Google hate and that's what has been driving his decision making. Microsoft's grand strategy is take jabs at Google and stalk Apple.
Meanwhile PC sales which directly provide one quarter of their revenue have hit a slump.
Yeah, they need a new CEO.
RT is a disaster. Design and execution is terrible.
Windows Phone is tanking. RT is dead in the water. Bing is just a fuck you to Google that has failed to hit them in their home turf. Surface (let's remember this thing is the reason several OEMs abandoned or scaled down their RT offerings) is commercial failure.
Basically, Ballmer is consumed by Apple envy and Google hate and that's what has been driving his decision making. Microsoft's grand strategy is take jabs at Google and stalk Apple.
Meanwhile PC sales which directly provide one quarter of their revenue have hit a slump.
Yeah, they need a new CEO.
outunderthestars
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That's cute. What exactly is going to change in the next year?
ThatObviousUser
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Lol if you think I was srs.
ANOTHER year? Again? I mean, I'm all for giving them a chance, but at some point you do have to at least concede that the start has been pretty bad. That doesn't mean they cannot turn things around. But damn, you have to admit, that the entire Windows Phone and related W8/Tablet movement has been pretty damn sluggish.
Bitmap Frogs said:
So much truth. Perhaps this is the path they had to take, maybe computing is shifting and they had no choice, but these changes they are making....where they seem to be trying to become AppleSoft is just fucking weird. They cannot seem to do anything right except for the Xbox. Its a mind blowing change from the 90's when all of that stuff was the other way around.
outunderthestars
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Microsoft has spent $400 million marketing the Surface, and only sold 1.4 million of them. That works out to what? $265 or so spent for each Surface sold?
Tallshortman
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:lol
dat post history.
no wonder
Surface |OT| brought to you by random MS spokesman.
Bitmap Frogs
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The decisions they have taken are beyond bad. Becoming an OEM has costed them the goodwill of their partners who by the way have an alternative OS available on the tablet space. Selling Surface only at their own stores... Either a half assed attempt at regaining OEM trust (which hasn't worked) or pure hubris thinking they could do what even Apple with a retail presence magnitudes bigger will not do.
After three years WP installed base is 2%. Let that sink in. And that meagre presence has been at the cost of burning Nokia down. And Nokia is quickly reaching the end of the line: only 8% of Nokia sales are smartphones when globally we will go past 50% this year. And even some African carriers are abandoning dumbphones now!
It's madness.
outunderthestars
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And don't forget that MS is paying Nokia $250 million per quarter for making phones that nobody is buying.
Bitmap Frogs
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Pure insanity.
outunderthestars
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nhlducks35
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Steve Ballmer needs to step down, after all, MS hasn't been doing so well under him, has it? This situation reminds me of this quote of him 5 years ago when the iPhone came out
Funny how the exact opposite is true now.
Funny how the exact opposite is true now.
there are plenty of W8 tablets that cost the same as rt and have the same battery life and dimensions.
It's the consumer's fault? No, that means the product missed the market. You don't blame poor sales on the consumer.
Still amazed they decided to name it Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT. The stigma attached to the name will always turn off buyers, no matter how uninformed. Such a simple thing to change, and yet Microsoft's management still doesn't get it. The blame should ultimately fall on Ballmer, since he has the final say on these decisions.
If someone googles surface, the first thing they will read is that it's a Windows tablet. And then they'll throw up in their mouth and proceed to apple.com instead.
If someone googles surface, the first thing they will read is that it's a Windows tablet. And then they'll throw up in their mouth and proceed to apple.com instead.
Unknown Soldier
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This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Across the board, customers are rejecting the unified Metro UI frontend products: Windows 8 (slower uptake than Vista), Surface, and Windows Phone 8. The only thing which keeps selling is Xbox and that's in spite of it being Metro-fied, not because of it. No one wants these things, so I'm not sure how any decision MS made was the right one nor how any shareholder could possibly accept MS continuing to do what they are doing.
CrankyKong
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Maybe don't run ads of people doing synchronised dancing with Surfaces
outunderthestars
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I really can't see them doing much more with the RT devices. Maybe a few small tweaks here or there, but not much else.
Sho_Nuff82
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I still don't see the point of the RT, and it appears that consumers feel the same way. Pro would honestly be a bigger seller with a Windows 7 sku.
-Pyromaniac-
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I don't think that's what sales are indicating.
No it wouldn't.
RT seems illogical to me as well. Providing a typical desktop environment that doesn't run any of my legacy desktop applications (at least without tinkering, hilariously enough) is dumb. At least WP8 is consistent and I can respect the idea of getting information quickly so your phone can go back in your pocket.
Metro being the forward facing environment on laptops and desktops that do not have touch screens isn't helping either. "Live Tiles" should be something that show up in a vertical column on the right side of your desktop if you are using mouse and keyboard, not the entire screen.
OEMs don't seem to be happy on the tablet/desktop side. I wonder what Nokia does if an in house "Surface Phone" ever happens. Pissing partners off doesn't seem to be the path to success.
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