PhineBuyM3
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Finally, one of these fits blows up in the faces of people tripping over themselves to get angry at anything they happen to fall on.
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Body shaming backlash fails miserably, Protein World makes a million
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TheOctodad
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In response to "people's bodies are different." Of course they are. I rarely see fit communities that aren't willing to embrace that. I have some stretch marks from where I used to be fat. You know how many people that are "fit" have critiqued them? Zero. I have only been applauded for my work and continued to be encouraged to keep going down the journey I'm going.
People are imagining that fit people demonize anyone who isn't perfect. But this isn't my experience at all. Fit communities encourage anyone who is progressing and working hard towards healthy and fit lifestyles even if they aren't "ideal." What they won't do, however, is sugar coat unhealthy behavior as if it were healthy behavior.
People are imagining that fit people demonize anyone who isn't perfect. But this isn't my experience at all. Fit communities encourage anyone who is progressing and working hard towards healthy and fit lifestyles even if they aren't "ideal." What they won't do, however, is sugar coat unhealthy behavior as if it were healthy behavior.
Might as well protest against actors/actesses in movies/Tv shows.
Learned a new word today. Thank you.
I wasn't debating your point really I was talking mainly about what you quoted and generally trying to add my 2cents to that line of discussion but you got defensive.
Hari Seldon
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Yeah I followed her on twitter haha.
TheLastCandle
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The ad is fine, the Twitter responses are childish and pretty gross.
Lol you literally said he had a "bad argument"
demosthenes
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Practice makes perfect! Also helps to be able to see different combinations and what tastes good with what
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It amazes me how these peaceful countries try to fabricate issues just to have a bit of controversy and drama in their life. How is this any different from a health magazine cover? Beach Body has been around for a long while... why didn't people jump on them for even having a name like that.
This is silly. In this world you have people who are scared to even send their kids off to school for fear of mass abduction/suicide bombing, and then you have this crap that's click bait for E! Entertainment and is the main concern of the week for the more well to do areas of this planet.
This is crazy that this is even an issue. Who doesn't want to be more healthy? When I was 300lbs I didn't look at stuff like this as an insult to me. This was damn motivation. I worked hard and put time in to working out to get down to 185lbs. I don't know, maybe I'm just insensitive , but damn man, what a world we live in when something like this is an issue.
This is silly. In this world you have people who are scared to even send their kids off to school for fear of mass abduction/suicide bombing, and then you have this crap that's click bait for E! Entertainment and is the main concern of the week for the more well to do areas of this planet.
This is crazy that this is even an issue. Who doesn't want to be more healthy? When I was 300lbs I didn't look at stuff like this as an insult to me. This was damn motivation. I worked hard and put time in to working out to get down to 185lbs. I don't know, maybe I'm just insensitive , but damn man, what a world we live in when something like this is an issue.
So why hate on a company putting out an ad just because you're lazy?
Body shaming is such a dumb term. Being overweight is bad. I'm overweight. I don't feel shame or guilt because of some ad. I don't even look at most ads. I feel shame and guilt because I'm overweight and there's no reason other than my lack of discipline. So, I'm getting back into shape again. I'll eventually get fat again and have to do it all over again, but that's life. You strive to be fit and healthy, even if it takes multiple attempts over the course of a lifetime. I don't like this term body shaming. I think it's embracing obesity. Be comfortable with your body, but also be realistic. PEACE.
Probably have and it just wasn't notable because there wasn't such a mean-spirited backlash to the backlash as there was in this case.
PdotMichael
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Too bad that being outraged on Tumblr and Twitter doesn't burn calories.
I can totally see the smaller fatter ice cube getting totally offended by that picture
But that smugness of accomplishing something will live on forever.
ClosingADoor
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No, I said it had influence, but it is not the only thing going on and there is a lot of personal responsibility. Sure, it is easier to just get something quick and eat something extra, but that is a choice someone makes.
I find it the easy way out to blame others for your own issues. And a lot of people show improvement and get thinner and more healthy when they work for it.
And definitely don't complain about other people being more in shape, because that is within your own control.
Now I do think stuff targeted to kids and such should be regulated (some already is). Because growing up unhealthy can have a long lasting impact on your life and kids are not deciding for themselves what and how to eat.
I don't think "it's what happens" is that much of an argument. You can turn that around also on the persons being offended from this ad.
I was mainly referring to the quote in your post that you seemed to be agreeing with but now you want to act like you weren't?
I agree this is a pretty silly tangent though. In any case ny point stands.
Ricky Ricardo
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"How the HELL am I supposed to compete with that Iceberg though? This is a completely unrealistic standard. Doesn't nature realize that we can't all be massive floating popsicles?This is pure nonsense. In fact, that iceberg should be ashamed that it made me feel less comfortable with my body!"
Bleh, body conversations always bring out the worst in people around here. Immaturity all the way around. I think there's a cognitive disconnect between what each camp considers "in shape". In my opinion the picture of that woman is well beyond "in shape" so I'm not sure why it should be a standard people try to set themselves to (unless of course they find personal satisfaction in it).
But personally, I don't think it's the picture that's offensive. Sure, it's unrealistic and contributes to a false sense of beauty, but it's certainly not worse than film and TV. It's also a bleeding protein shake...
What is offensive is their arrogant responses on Twitter. Weight and exercise culture has a reputation for doucheyness and those responses help reinforce this.
But personally, I don't think it's the picture that's offensive. Sure, it's unrealistic and contributes to a false sense of beauty, but it's certainly not worse than film and TV. It's also a bleeding protein shake...
What is offensive is their arrogant responses on Twitter. Weight and exercise culture has a reputation for doucheyness and those responses help reinforce this.
The Silver
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man that's funny, the hypocrisy of some people railing against body "shaming" while saying she's photoshopped, fake, and unhealthy and blah blah
That's really reductive and a bullshit generalization. A lot of people have too much shit to do to work out or their resources are strained so they don't have much to devote to fitness. Like, think of a busy parent or someone who's working multiple full-time jobs or balancing work and school. Some people just have a much bigger hump to get over to get fit. That doesn't make them lazy.
And some people are perfectly healthy even though they're skinny-fat or overweight (not obese). If they can live a fulfilling life without having to strain themselves to maintain a certain image, that's no reason to disparage them and treat them like lazy failures. That's where body shaming is a real thing that actually does harm IMO.
There's a spectrum of healthy lifestyles out there. It's not a binary thing. The continuum isn't simply "Beach body OR Lazy sack of blubber." That kind of perspective is total bullshit.
ClosingADoor
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I don't think anyone is saying that, I certainly don't want to say that. Not everyone needs to have a supermodel body. I doubt much of the guys here look like Captain America also (I certainly don't).
But if you are offended by an ad with a skinny girl on it and you are unsure about yourself because of your body, there are ways to fix that and it is up to the person to do that, not the advertising company to change their ads.
All noble goals, but in the meantime let's not make people feel like shit.
Gotta read the entire thread, man.
CornBurrito
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There's some area in between lazy morbidly obese, and "I go to the gym every day."
TheOctodad
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I haven't read many posts saying that they "can't stand" fat people. What are you talking about?
ClosingADoor
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I read most of it. Maybe I overlooked some or I just don't read that stuff into it that much.
100% of life ends in death. Breathing is a huge cost to society. Literally everything is a cost to society at some point. Earlier, later, you're going to die regardless.
If I die a 10X at 45 vs a L at 90, I'm still dead. One way I happened to be eating food I liked and enjoying my scooter and walk-in tub, the other I enjoyed running and hiking. One side I couldn't climb stairs without being out of breath, the other I climbed Mt Kilimanjaro. Either way, it sounds like I was relatively happy with life. And if I'm not happy with my 10X shirts, then I know what I need to do to get out of those 10X shirts. Also, personally, I'm not predisposed to diabetes so I doubt I'll get it. My only risk, literally, is obesity. My husband IS pre-diabetic though. And he's not "big". (He is, however, overweight, with a 28.1 BMI.) His father's BMI is around 24 and he's also diabetic.
Incorrect, the term "chubby chaser" Is a thing for a reason. My husband loves big boys. Usually 250-300+ is his "thing". He's not big, he's considered a chaser.
I agree with all of these. All of them.
This.
If we don't shame them, then they'll never realize their fat and do something about it!
Principate
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What about just exercising everyday bro.
So we should go protest against pro wrestling, amirite? Cause the single father of three will never have time to go work out to look like Chris Masters. Maybe only achieve the broken, fragile, flabby body of someone like Daniel Bryan
Principate
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Well not perfectly heavy being overweight increases your risk factors for many types things.
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Why should the people putting out the ad give a damn?
You don't have to proclaim "I can't stand fat people" to display a distinct level of contempt. Any and all GAF threads on this general topic always have that stink.
TheOctodad
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No. This is simply not true. Not everyone has to have jacked muscles and be ripped. But being chubby is unhealthy.
I don't think they are lazy or bad people. I don't think they are less valuable than fit people. But there is an association between additional fat and unhealth. It's not the only definition, but it is definitely part of it.
Perhaps. Or maybe you are reading emotions that aren't there. If someone isn't saying that, aren't you kind of making assumptions?
One of these days.... someone is gonna do something drastic.
ClosingADoor
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So you're just reading what you want to read in some of those statements.
CornBurrito
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But is that enough? Or are you lazy unless you look like Hulk Hogan?
Not sure if sarcastic, but there is loads of research out there showing that positive reinforcement has much better outcomes than negative reinforcement.
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Bryan having a realistic body was reason #372-A for why he is/was the most over guy in pro wrestling for a while.
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