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Body shaming backlash fails miserably, Protein World makes a million
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Not seeing what they did wrong.
Once again the Internet had allowed hyper-sensative people to come together and "protest" something in the laziest way imaginable: protest via Twitter, on your computer, in your home, and probably sitting on your fat ass.
If a health/workout company can't advertise by showing someone in shape, what are they suppose to do? Show some fat twitter activist and hope that people want to look like that?
Once again the Internet had allowed hyper-sensative people to come together and "protest" something in the laziest way imaginable: protest via Twitter, on your computer, in your home, and probably sitting on your fat ass.
If a health/workout company can't advertise by showing someone in shape, what are they suppose to do? Show some fat twitter activist and hope that people want to look like that?
Sure its enough.
But feel free to go Hulk if you want. In fact, I just saw an ad for protein powder by Protein World that might help you reach the next level.
People get upset and claim body shaming because getting fit and looking a certain way is drastically different for many people, and many people feel that isn't fair.
And it isn't. But it changes nothing. I have to work out a ton and be extremely strict and moderate with my diet to look in the shape that I do. If I wanted to look even bigger or more 'like people in the movies!', I'd have to work even harder.
To some, it comes a lot easier. Either effort wise, having extra time, etc. But many need to stop hiding behind this unfair aspect of being in shape, and just accept. Life isn't always fair.
And it isn't. But it changes nothing. I have to work out a ton and be extremely strict and moderate with my diet to look in the shape that I do. If I wanted to look even bigger or more 'like people in the movies!', I'd have to work even harder.
To some, it comes a lot easier. Either effort wise, having extra time, etc. But many need to stop hiding behind this unfair aspect of being in shape, and just accept. Life isn't always fair.
PdotMichael
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Are ads with attractive women and men positive or negative reinforcement though?
Not if you put the work in it isn't, no.
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Deleted member 17706
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People accused the image of being Photoshopped? Her body was that unrealistic to them?
Crazy.
Night Angel
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I haven't seen anyone say that.
Gully State
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This is my experience as well. I've never been super strong but the people I've met in the fitness community have always always applauded effort and improvement moreso than anything else I've been involved in. I think it's kinda silly that people get this perception that those that are super fit spend their days pointing and laughing at out of shape individuals when from my experience that's never been the case.
How do you positive reinforce someone that doesnt exercise any positive behaviour?
King Cobra
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Kudos to them we need more companies to think this way, what are the chances that they were going to be customers? And if anything they earned more customers by standing their ground, I know where to get my powders should I want to give it a try.
So being fat isn't behaving positively?
Nice one.
With regards to health and fitness obviously it is not.
metalmonstar
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I don't get how the advertisement is body shaming. Should I be upset that the gold's gym yoga mats, weights, and push up assisted all feature super fit men and women? Seriously marketing for fitness products is super one dimensional. Feature attractive person with the promise that using said product will get you to look like that as well. It is a protein supplement it is for the people who want to have fit bodies.
In regards to that, of course it isn't. But in regards to everything else.... what?
Being completely sarcastic. I thought that'd be obvious with the rest of my post, sorry.
I am a fat dude - if someone points or laughs at me or whatever, I don't get motivated to "fix myself", it makes me feel like shit and I end up eating more because I get depressed. It's not something that you go "Hey! That made me feel terrible! That's awesome motivation to stop being a lazyass and start exercising!" It's more along the lines of "fuck, that guy just called me a fatass worthless piece of shit. I guess that's what I really am. I've been trying so fucking hard to lose weight, I've got 250+ days logged into MyFitnessPal and I was down 50 pounds yesterday from a year ago at the docs office.. But I'll never make it. Why fucking try?"
Oh and then the other side - "Hey everyone! I brought donuts in! Bamfmeat - you want one?" Outside, "No I'm good! Thanks!" Inside, "It's too bad you're a fatass, if you could actually control yourself you could eat a donut. But nope, instead you have to eat the fucking box and then go buy more. You're worthless. Like that guy the other day said."
My own worst enemy is myself. Even therapy can't shut that voice down.
Dr_LucienSanchez
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Because it depicts an unrealistic image of the human body that's simply unobtainable for many women, no matter how much they exercise and/or diet?
This is especially evident by looking at her twitter video that somebody posted in this thread. Most people can't and shouldn't try to achieve her look, regardless of how healthy and fit she may or may not be.
I just get the feeling from these threads that a lot of the posters live inside an extremely narrow bubble when it comes to this issue, and have never had experience with themselves or people close to them when it comes to body image issues and things like anorexia (and how marketing can have such a huge impact). We all get it, being obese and overweight is bad and unhealthy. But so many of the responses just trivialize an extremely complex topic.
TheOctodad
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Yes. This is an absolute fact. I'm only 33% hogan right now so my laziness rating is 67%.
Well we're talking about positive reinforcement in terms of leading a healthy lifestyle here.
Principate
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It's not unobtainable, christ.... that specific figure perhaps but similar, certainly not.
I'd say it's a relatively common physique at my gym give or take a few pounds.
People like to convince themselves a good body is hard to achieve ( and i'm not talking Marvel super Hero physiques here) because it makes it easier for them to justify not doing any excersise.
It's a fucking huge issue in the UK as obesity skyrockets and costs the NHS a fortune while society tries to normalise being fat (I'm more built at 32 than I was at 20 or 25 yet I'm wearing a M now when I had to wear a L back then)
You ignored his point that it's an ad.
Same here, man. And this thread isn't really doing anything positive for my self esteem either. No motivation found here. I realize I'm unhealthy and shit and the ads are harmless. But the posts here are... something else.Being completely sarcastic. I thought that'd be obvious with the rest of my post, sorry.
I am a fat dude - if someone points or laughs at me or whatever, I don't get motivated to "fix myself", it makes me feel like shit and I end up eating more because I get depressed. It's not something that you go "Hey! That made me feel terrible! That's awesome motivation to stop being a lazyass and start exercising!" It's more along the lines of "fuck, that guy just called me a fatass worthless piece of shit. I guess that's what I really am. I've been trying so fucking hard to lose weight, I've got 250+ days logged into MyFitnessPal and I was down 50 pounds yesterday from a year ago at the docs office.. But I'll never make it. Why fucking try?"
Oh and then the other side - "Hey everyone! I brought donuts in! Bamfmeat - you want one?" Outside, "No I'm good! Thanks!" Inside, "It's too bad you're a fatass, if you could actually control yourself you could eat a donut. But nope, instead you have to eat the fucking box and then go buy more. You're worthless. Like that guy the other day said."
My own worst enemy is myself. Even therapy can't shut that voice down.
Yeah, but it's easier to get incensed when you take a comment out of context.
I have no skin in this game. If it makes you feel better thinking that I'm just projecting, then feel free.
You know you done fucked up when you end up making unlikable pricks look like anti-heroes.
Zoe
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That's just arguing semantics. Overweight is overweight--chubby is just a nicer way of saying it.
Dr_LucienSanchez
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Pretty sure I didn't ignore it. I'm just fucking ecstatic that I don't live in a society where marketers have free reign to do whatever they want to. Going by the logic that it's just an ad, we might as well allow cigarette companies to advertise to children. I mean, smoking is kind of cool, so what better way for kids to be cool than to smoke.
TheOctodad
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I would encourage you to make a post in fitgaf. They are always super encouraging.
As a person who was formerly fat, and still wants to lose a little weight, I'm cheering for you. Being fat is unhealthy, but you can make decisions to change that. It's not about beating yourself up it's about discipline and making progress. It's totally possible for you to be in better health every day if you're willing.
Since I made some of those comments that its not healthy from a certain BMI upwards, you're probably also talking about me.
And in my case you're definitely projecting.
I worked as a personal trainer for years, mostly with overweight people.
I do not despise or hate them in any way.
Ok then it's just my understanding of the English language, guess I got it wrong
TheOctodad
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I don't think either way. I just don't see any posts that blatantly fit the narrative you are claiming. I asked you for some examples and you didn't give me any. I just do my best not to assume people "hate" others unless they explicitly say so.
I know this wasn't the point of your post, but if this is true then good for you.
Even if someone is overweight, if they are exercising and trying to eat right then there's really nothing else to say about it.
GAF Weight Loss and Fit Gaf helped me do this.
Are you saying an ad for people to get a beach body is the equivalent of promoting smoking?
TheOctodad
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Nice job dude!
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How many is "many?" Furthermore, why does it matter if it's unrealistic for a lot of people? It's an ideal presented to advertise a product that, theoretically, will help you approach that ideal. No one is saying you can't go to the beach if you don't look exactly like the model in the picture.
Wait, what? I haven't watched the video, but why should probably not try to achieve a similar level of fitness or health? Obviously, people need to prioritize things in life, but "shouldn't try?" Why?
Nonsense. Go into the fitness thread on this very board. I'd say the majority of the people in there dealt with weight issues at some point in their lives. It's not a huge community, but it's a whole lot of success stories of people who overcame their previous unhealthiness or are working towards doing so.
Doesn't help that the NHS's dietary advice is contributing to the problem.
I think health education needs to be changed and include more information about body types and healthy lifestyle choice (throw in how to balance a check book and how to use a **** self check out line in a store)
If we are not educated on a subject it is easier to manipulated by marketing and other sources that are in it for the dollar over your health.
If we are not educated on a subject it is easier to manipulated by marketing and other sources that are in it for the dollar over your health.
Gangster.
God Dayumm
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If your self-esteem is based on shaming fit women and men, calling them meatheads, anorexic, bones, not "real" women, unrealistic, photoshoped, and being a douche in general then you don't deserve positive reinforcement. But I doubt that is your case. However those activists that went against the ad are the kind of people that say shit like this:
And they deserve all the scorn in the world.
Yeah, being a fit, healthy person is totally the same as smoking. That was a spot on comparison.
Freakin' amazing. Nice job.
DonasaurusRex
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why is that offensive though?
ohhthegore
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fuck yeah
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Amazing stuff.
If you had listened to some segments of the Internet, you might have been inclined to think that you should have "embraced your body" as it was in the first image and been proud of it or something.
Dude Abides
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That's nice. It's still bullshit to sell it as the "weight loss collection."
Also very few people need protein supplements, so it's bullshit in that sense as well.
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