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Bomba? Wii U $219 via Newegg
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Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Wow, I've never seen someone so openly racist outside of Fox News.
Once you go black console, you can't ever go back.
freezamite
Banned
The gamepad it's a neat evolution no matter how anyone looks at it. It improves the user experience a fuck ton, and also adds a ton of other gameplay possibilities.
Is it a mistake because it costs money and that money can't be inverted on having more powerful chips?
This industry has to crash again and be totally reinvented around it's traditional values.
Quoted for truthiest of truth facts.
outunderthestars
Banned
At Nintendo. if you find that your consumers are consistently misinformed then the problem lies within your marketing/branding, not with the consumers themselves. It is not their job to learn about your new product...
Yep, without it how would we honk in mario kart?
It is a neat evolution brought down by terrible execution. It is also too expensive and incompatible with local multiplayer, rending to being used as nothing more than a novelty in most Wii U games thus far.
It is the albatross that will prevent the Wii U from succeeding. Consumers don't seem to find value in it, developers don't seem to find utility in it, and it prevents Nintendo from being able to get the system into a more apt price point for a system that exists as gamer's secondary platform choice.
turnbuckle
Member
My roommate is trying to get a Wii U. Wish I knew someone in the service that could get that bundle for him. And for me.
That'd be an amazing turn - if we were able to get that deal our household would go from 0 Wii Us to 3 (my brother would certainly buy it at that price too).
Price really is the key here. It's too closely priced with the better 360/PS3 alternatives and isn't bringing enough different to the table to justify the cost (for us, anyways). Goddammit Nintendo, why'd you have to fuck up and force that pad into the system? Without the cost of that pad we could easily be seeing $149 prices right now. Without that pad they'd have much bigger sales for a few reasons. Biggest one being price. Second biggest one being confusion/mess over what the Wii U is. I STILL know people that think the U is a controller for the Wii. And even to someone like me, I'm confused about how local multiplayer works. If a game requires the gamepad, how does it work in local multiplayer? How does 4 players work if only one person can have a pad?
And aren't there some technical limitations, like the framerate or something gets lowered if you use more than one pad? What a mess. Just a damned mess. The Wii U could have been incredible if it just came with an upgraded motion controller and a pro controller packed in. That is all they needed to do. They fucked up.
That'd be an amazing turn - if we were able to get that deal our household would go from 0 Wii Us to 3 (my brother would certainly buy it at that price too).
Price really is the key here. It's too closely priced with the better 360/PS3 alternatives and isn't bringing enough different to the table to justify the cost (for us, anyways). Goddammit Nintendo, why'd you have to fuck up and force that pad into the system? Without the cost of that pad we could easily be seeing $149 prices right now. Without that pad they'd have much bigger sales for a few reasons. Biggest one being price. Second biggest one being confusion/mess over what the Wii U is. I STILL know people that think the U is a controller for the Wii. And even to someone like me, I'm confused about how local multiplayer works. If a game requires the gamepad, how does it work in local multiplayer? How does 4 players work if only one person can have a pad?
And aren't there some technical limitations, like the framerate or something gets lowered if you use more than one pad? What a mess. Just a damned mess. The Wii U could have been incredible if it just came with an upgraded motion controller and a pro controller packed in. That is all they needed to do. They fucked up.
freezamite
Banned
That's the same as saying "buttons are only good to taunt on SFIV".Yep, without it how would we honk in mario kart?
It's not incompatible with local multiplayer, I mean, there are a ton of local multiplayer games on the WiiU, and as a gamer and not a shareholder, I would never sacrifice gaming evolution for more quota on the market.
You speak as a shareholder, I speak as a gamer.
turnbuckle
Member
outunderthestars
Banned
Well, as a gamer, I am annoyed that the system has failed to connect with the public, thus dooming the console to an early death and fewer games made for the platform. With such anemic sales numbers, I cannot imagine third party studios greenlighting any WiiU exclusives, thus further dooming the tablet controller to being nothing more than an expensive minimap display tool.
freezamite
Banned
Its wrong why? Since when a gamer cares about:
Those are reasons only a shareholder would put to ditch the gamepad. So it's a good device, but since consumers aren't interested on it and third parties don't put a lot of money on it it should get ditched in favour of a more limited but cheaper approach.
I don't want Nintendo to fail as a company, but that's because I like Nintendo's philosophy of playability first, graphics second. If in order to survive they have to turn themselves into a bad copy of the western companies and start to produce "graphics first, second and third" games, then I prefer them to die with dignity.
No, that's not a reasoning based on being a gamer. As a gamer, I bought the WiiU because I liked that concept of the gamepad, and as a gamer I want it to sell well because I think it's a neat evolution of traditional gamepads.outunderthestars said:
That being said, the company (Nintendo) is the means, but not the goal. To me the goal is having innovative and enhanced devices that can evolve gaming, and this is why I would like that console to sell much better.
On the other hand, to you it's the opposite, Nintendo's success seems to be your goal, that's why you ask for that controller to be eliminated, because to you the gameplay is only the means and the company the goal, thus speaking like a shareholder.
Write an angry e-mail to Newegg. They must sell it at that price, it doesn't worth more.
turnbuckle
Member
You are just wrong here. As a gamer I want Nintendo to do well because it means their ability to make and court more games for their system increases.
As a gamer I'm disappointed in the mistakes Nintendo has made. Has nothing to do with being a shareholder. As a gamer I was disappointed in the limitations of the Wii but shareholders were quite happy with its success.
This "I'm a gamer" crap is Sarah Palin levels of silliness. Real America : Real Gamer
freenudemacusers
Member
Wait a year.
freezamite
Banned
No, gamer care about gameplay, shareholders care about sales. Gamers can care about sales if they help a certain gameplay aspect to evolve, but a gamer that wants a more limited device because he cares more about sales?
Well, then that's a gamer that before anything it's also a shareholder...
turnbuckle
Member
Nevermind.
outunderthestars
Banned
How can a gamer play games when the system sells so poorly that no more games are produced?
turnbuckle
Member
go play the stock market, the ultimate Nintendo non-game. I guess.
AstroNut325
Member
$150 with a game (Mario, Zelda, W101, or Pikmin) is my entry point. Not any sooner.
freezamite
Banned
As I said you before, the company is the means but not the objective. If the gamepad is ditched out, then why buy a WiiU instead of a PS4?
You want to ditch a positive evolution of gaming devices because of the stock market, so it's pretty obvious that I'm not the one playing with this.turnbuckle said:
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
For the exclusive software perhaps? You think the people who did buy the WiiU wanted it because of babby's first tablet and not because they love Nintendo franchises?
You keep saying it's all about the games. Please tell us about all the amazing games I can buy that are only possible (and a "fuck-ton" better) thanks to the gamepad.
In real evolution, not every mutation is beneficial. The market (i.e., gamers) don't think the WiiU tablet is particularly desirable. It's hard to make the case broadly that it's a positive evolution. Even if you happen to like it yourself.
Rimon-hanit
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I think I'm going to stop calling myself a gamer from now on I'll go with SWVGAAVFOE
someone who views gaming as a valid form of entertainment
DoYouEvenLift?
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So are you even open to the possibility that your opinion is a minority, and companies don't find it to be plentiful enough to cater to anymore? I think the gamepad was a lazy attempt at bilking customers to pay modern-tech prices for generation-old tech. Nintendo succeeded admirably with that with the Wii so they thought they'd give it a go again.
That's the thing to me... people bitch about the lack of creativity in the industry or the inability to sustain the budgets, etc... etc... but they point to Nintendo as this bastion of creativity and game design? Why is the umpeenth Mario platformer so innovative and creative? Note that I'm not saying it's not FUN, but it's not creative. It's as much of a franchise milk as Halo 3, 4, 5 or CoD 20, 21, 22. Yet the latter two get shit on for "sequelitis."
Honestly, it's tiring to me, and to as someone who IS a fan of traditional Nintendo games, annoys me greatly. I feel like the modern Nintendo sycophant who's ok with all these anti-consumer measures (overpriced tech, lack of additional features, joke of an online system, account system stupidity, charging to "upgrade" ROMs you already paid for, clamoring for fucking Donkey Kong) are the REASON Nintendo is on it's way out of the hardware industry. Maybe they could have improved and competed if their most vocal customers weren't always bending over and then telling Nintendo how much they appreciated it.
Tallshortman
Member
Yes the industry should crash so nintendo fans can get what they want, fuck everyone else. That's about the level of nonsense it has gotten to.
freenudemacusers
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Crimsonsky
Member
Must be some gaffers or lucky dudes in Charleston, all ten of the WiiU's they had are sold out.
Wonder if Best Buy or Wal-Mart would price match? Could still order it online .
Wonder if Best Buy or Wal-Mart would price match? Could still order it online .
Im having a hard time finding one in stores around here. Its annoying to see 6 XBONEs and 0 Wii Us in the Target by my house. I thought they were supposed to be easy to find. I would buy online but I hate waiting for shipping lol. I need to just do it because I am missing those genuinely fun games that Nintendo offers (I skipped out on the Wii)
CoffeeJanitor
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Call me when it's $200 or maybe $150.
After using my 3DS no way I'm paying that much for a toy-quality console
shakin_haitian
Banned
Well this is stupid. They're all video game systems, they're all toys. Are you banging away in excel or word on your console or something?
Alex
Member
Both the Gamepad and the 3D screen in the 3DS were mistakes. Going forward, Nintendo probably needs to keep their features and/or gimmicks within reasonable measures. Targeting the lower price venue will probably serve them best seeing what markets they seem to serve best, ie; younger audiences, aux devices for core gamers, etc.
(that and I like to pretend that if the 3DS didnt have that stupid screen, maybe we could have at least gotten a reasonable 480p resolution)
outunderthestars
Banned
This is pretty much exactly how I feel. Both systems invested too much of the sticker price on features that I actively dislike. And the market appears to agree with me as both systems are selling well below their predecessors.
turnbuckle
Member
Yup. Haven't touched the 3D slider in years. I'm not a gamer though, YMMV.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Bought this very late last night, then immediately got cold feet and tried to cancel.
Got a response today saying sorry, no cancel. Looks like I'm playing W101 after all!
Got a response today saying sorry, no cancel. Looks like I'm playing W101 after all!
freezamite
Banned
In a fictional scenario where Nintendo ditches the gamepad in favour of more mainstream and generic solution, why do you think they would stick with their gaming design philosophies?
If they take a drastic measure like ditching the gamepad (and that "babby's first tablet" way to speak of it, the definitive proof that gaming it's not your priority by any means) it won't be to make games still in the same way they've been doing them until now.
As I said you, I'm a hardcore gamer, I don't play with the company or with their characters, I play with their GAMES. Period.
ZombiU to name one, but every single game benefits of a much better UI. I know that to shareholders or hardcore experiencers the UI is not anything important, now name me one single think that can be done with the traditional gamepad and impossible to do on the WiiU gamepad.hey_it's_that_dog said:
That's true, and this industry has evolved to a "only graphics and immersion matters" philosophy. That's not a matter of how many people, it's a matter of priorities.hey_it's_that_dog said:
Is the tablet superior to a traditional gamepad? Yes.
Does the industry at this point care about superior gameplay? No.
Is this what I find positive for the industry? No.
Does that mean that I'm right and everybody else is wrong? No. This is why I said that if Nintendo ditches out their console and transform themselves into a bad copy of a western company I would quit gaming outside of a few indies.
That's to you, because to you technology is first. As I said, I'm a hardcore gamer and not a hardcore viewer, to me the PS4 (an off-the-shelf design by the way) is the easy path of going cheap while not risking even a bit.DoYouEvenLift? said:
Different perspectives, different opinions.
To a hardcore viewer/experiencer that plays as a means to something else of course having the same character on two different games makes those games the same.DoYouEvenLift? said:
To a hardcore gamer the characters are the least, and every single iteration of Mario evolves the gameplay formula to a point that makes The Last Of Us seem the same as the first Uncharted.
You want evolution on the plot, the graphics and the characters. I want evolution on the gameplay.
It's not creative on the areas you look for, on the ones I care, it's as I said more creative in each iteration than other studios on their recent trajectory.DoYouEvenLift? said:
No, it's not, but as I said, it's a matter of priorities.DoYouEvenLift? said:
Not nintendo fans, but gamers in general.Tallshortman said:
This guy gets it im with you also, nowadays some people just dont want to play for gameplay anyomore, its about graphics and framerates..
Just got this in today. In general Nintendo does not seem to have the wiggle room in price as they did with the 3DS. Had I not already owned Skylanders for PS4, this would have been my bundle of choice (over Mario or Zelda). But since it won't be too hard to sell off the extras, this works out to an incredible deal either way (and with Amazon not selling the consoles, it will be more difficult to get a good deal tax free).
Anyways, initial hardware impressions, because the system update is taking its sweet time to download. Very similar to how I felt about 3DS hardware, disappointing.
Given how big the gamepad is and how much space they had to work with, it is surprisingly uncomfortable. Ergonomically it feels a bit odd, and the sides of the pad aren't flush which creates an uncomfortable edge. A DS4 feels like a dream compared to this. Screen quality isn't great, though I've only seen menu screens so far. And even though I knew the screen was resistive, it's still incredibly jarring every time I have to work with it.
The console really feels like I'm setting up the Wii again. It also wobbles when horizontal and I'm unsure why they chose to expose the sync button when there is a cover right next to it. On the plus side it has back mounted usb ports, which the PS4 sorely needs.
Looking forward to diving into the OS when this download finishes.
Anyways, initial hardware impressions, because the system update is taking its sweet time to download. Very similar to how I felt about 3DS hardware, disappointing.
Given how big the gamepad is and how much space they had to work with, it is surprisingly uncomfortable. Ergonomically it feels a bit odd, and the sides of the pad aren't flush which creates an uncomfortable edge. A DS4 feels like a dream compared to this. Screen quality isn't great, though I've only seen menu screens so far. And even though I knew the screen was resistive, it's still incredibly jarring every time I have to work with it.
The console really feels like I'm setting up the Wii again. It also wobbles when horizontal and I'm unsure why they chose to expose the sync button when there is a cover right next to it. On the plus side it has back mounted usb ports, which the PS4 sorely needs.
Looking forward to diving into the OS when this download finishes.
Tallshortman
Member
What you want is for people to adore Nintendo games and other types of games are okay as long as they don't become too popular to interfere with Nintendo's success. An industry crash wouldn't reset micro transactions or F2P casual games. It also wouldn't save Nintendo?
I actually feel about the Wii U the same way I did about the N64... it was a trickle of good games, except with the N64, I sold and rebought that thing 3 times. There was always something I wanted to play that came along later, but hated having the system just sitting around doing nothing. I bought the Zelda bundle a couple months ago, and have enjoyed WWHD, NSMBU, and SM3DW, but after that, I'm not sure what's next. Me and Platinum titles don't get along, and the Pikmin series never really did much for me. That NES remix thing might be a decent diversion...
The $219 price is no longer available but in essence $219 from Newegg is $210 at many other vendors since they don't charge sales tax or shipping. My price point was $200 without tax/shipping, and $219 worked out to be the perfect amount. I plan to flip the Skylanders crap to further bring down the price and buy 3D World.
People calling for $150 console should wake up from the pipedream. Nintendo would be crazy to discount their full console bundled with a game (that probably cost more to manufacture) below the cost of the 3DS XL.
This is a very reasonable price and I'm eyeing the tracking number every few hours in hopes of playing it.
HiredN00bs
Banned
Actually, there's a MUCH better deal for the Wii U. This bundle, however, is only available to members of the U.S. Marines/Navy, it might actually work for the other branches too, not sure.
But they're offering a 32GB bundle with both New Super Mario and Super Luigi U for $199.99 with FREE shipping. Offers valid I think up until the 24th of December.
For those interested, log into the NEX site with your last name, last 4, and DOB, then do a search for product number: 8931388
Just a heads-up for anyone trying to get the NEX deal: even though the website said they were out of inventory, my brother called in and was able to order 2 over the phone.
I just called and I wasn't able to order one, and they don't know if/when they'll get any more in stock. Should have ordered it when I had the chance.
Yup. Wii U needs to drop to $199 or $179 to interest me.
Coffee Dog
Banned
An industry where developers were forced to rely on enthusiasts to remain profitable as opposed to more casual gamers would be fantastic. Budgets be damned, a crash wouldn't be too bad from a gameplay standpoint.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
This turned out to one heck of a good deal for me after selling the stuff in the box:
$220 (no tax or shipping)
-$45 Gold figure on eBay
-$20 Nintendo Land on eBay
-$45 Rest of the Skylanders stuff on eBay
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$110 Wii U
$220 (no tax or shipping)
-$45 Gold figure on eBay
-$20 Nintendo Land on eBay
-$45 Rest of the Skylanders stuff on eBay
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$110 Wii U
Haha do you work for NoA? If people don't want it, they don't want it. The 8 GB Wii U is worthless anyway. I doubt any of the games worth playing are going to be rare any time soon either...so what's the point of buying it this early? It's not like you're getting the premium experience of new tech (you're barely getting that with PS4/XBONE, but that's beside the point). And, if you have enough games to play as-is (isn't this everybody that posts here?), why would you buy a new system? Idk, that's just my 2 cents. I want a Wii U, but its pointless for me to buy one right now b/c I wouldn't even get a chance to play it. I think the Wii U is one of the cooler systems in a while, but I don't feel it's my responsibility to make it catch on....and this is coming from someone who worshiped the Dreamcast.
Also, why aren't people this salty towards posters that say they still haven't bought a PS3 or w/e yet (i.e. Drakengard 3 thread, etc).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Skylanders-...ition-Nintendo-Wii-U-Bundle-zTS-/360818378269
Toysrus is selling again on the ebay store front for $220.
Toysrus is selling again on the ebay store front for $220.
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