Not even Ariel? She combed her hair with forks, and was a trash hoarder.
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Brave director criticises Disney's 'sexualised' Princess Merida redesign
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Not even Ariel? She combed her hair with forks, and was a trash hoarder.
Gotta inject some Miyazaki entertainment into our future kids to balance it out.
She combed her hair and collected shiny trinkets. What an amazing character.
Funner trivia: sort of not really.
The story refers to "China" as where it is set, but people back then didn't really know where or what China was - it was just some mystical foreign land. It's likely more accurate to set it in Arabia rather than China.
I can see why you might have struggled to find a role model in the films, but that's a ridiculously sweeping statement.
No she was a hoarder. Bet the castle is full of piles of crap now. Everytime something washes up on shore she has to drag it inside since she's ingrained it into her brain over the years.
She was a hoarder of things from another world... who wouldn't be?
How come? The Disney morals were always ancient as shit and the girls pretty little princesses beyond few exceptions.
Marmaladefire
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Yeah. I didn't like that Cindy/Snow/Aurora shit either, but Jasmine, Mulan, Tiana, Merida and even Belle shouldn't be painted with the same brush.
edit: I agree with your point about the morals, but I think they've been better at developing the characters themselves recently.
There are plenty of Disney female characters who are not princesses, easily outnumbering those who are.
But do they act any different? Do they fight the arch nemesis? Do they save their kingdoms often? I remember Pocahontas being somewhat witty and Mulan taking action.
Prax
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I want another East Asian princess now. Maybe from Oceania or Himalayas~~ Or perhaps nomadic mongolian or more northern Russian?
How about South American or Mayan?
Oh, and an outer space princess.
So many possibilities~
I also don't mind that they are princesses. I assume that means they are shoved into some kind of position of responsibility/political status that makes for good drama. Though I'd rather that the next set of princesses be more symbolic in their princessery, like more of taking on a leadership position or earning some kind of status through their badassery (warrior princess or mage princess kind of thing).
How about South American or Mayan?
Oh, and an outer space princess.
So many possibilities~
I also don't mind that they are princesses. I assume that means they are shoved into some kind of position of responsibility/political status that makes for good drama. Though I'd rather that the next set of princesses be more symbolic in their princessery, like more of taking on a leadership position or earning some kind of status through their badassery (warrior princess or mage princess kind of thing).
I would say that since the 90s at least, Disney's female characters have generally taken a fairly active role in their respective films and are fairly distinct in terms of character. Perhaps there is a bad habit of having them having to be rescued at the climax though, The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Hunchback of Notre Dame and Hercules springing to mind.
Yes they are better when compared to old Disney movies, but that's pretty much it and it's much said :b
One would think that a director would have some knowledge about the matter.
Femmeworth
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Maybe in a few decades. (I'm being generous.)
GrotesqueBeauty
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Why did they work with Disney to begin with? It's like dancing with the devil then complaining when your toe is crushed by his cloven hoof.
Femmeworth
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Battered person syndrome. Actually, she was working at Pixar before Disney bought them. You try to escape Disney, but they just pull you back in.
While I agree it's against the idea of the movie/character, this is pretty funny considering she was an insufferable brat.
The dress they stuck her in for the princess line is the dress she hates in the movie.
You monster.
This needs to get quoted over and over again for all the posts that say "almost nothing got changed". Are you blind? I mean seriously. The waist alone, omg.
Additionally on first look, I found the original design way more appealing. And then I figured out why a few seconds later (see above).
The after looks better in the face (before she did have a bit to much blush anyway). Plus her dress isn't that much different really, its just sparkly.
Really I find it more disgusting that the creator of the character is annoyed and suggesting sexism then anything.
Dispite that though it is still the same core character, it still projects the personality which the original character had.
Really I find it more disgusting that the creator of the character is annoyed and suggesting sexism then anything.
Dispite that though it is still the same core character, it still projects the personality which the original character had.
I think what's important isn't seeing them next to each other and saying "how close they are to each other", but covering the Pixar model up with your hand as if it didn't exist, and asking if the Disney design is the character Merida. Which it's not. If this was your introduction to the character, you would think they were a confident, somewhat sassy, glamorized, and mature. Which she's not, they're ridding the character of any awkwardness she had, her more human qualities.
I think that's what bothers Brenda, is missing the character. The thing is, this line has sort of missed representing correctly most of the characters. Especially Mulan, Belle, and somewhat Pocahontas.
Half and half
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That's the goddamn point. Merida didn't need to be attractive. Women don't need to be attractive to do anything. We absolutely can be if we so choose, and it does not make us "sluts". However, we can also accomplish just as much as ugly men can.
Good post.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Just to weigh in on the topic: I don't care at all about pretty characters and I think they're just fine in animation.... But changing an established character is naturally going to get push back. I can understand why many are pissed.
GentlemanCrow
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Looks the same, dude. Give it up. It's not like you should be super proud of the character anyway, let it go.
SapientWolf
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I'm more disappointed at how bad the new art is than the proportions. And yet she still has the football head.
Black Door
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Why is being short awful
Anticitizen One
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haha just like the mandarin in iron man
TacticalFox88
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Pagusas
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I wish I could make a pention to reverse the reversing.
I really truly hate modern social correctness.
I seriously cannot tell the difference besides that they added glitter. wtf.
Insanity
jezebel sometimes takes exception with the most insane things.
This is pretty damn ridiculous.
Ha ha, you're joking, right?
Meh, Mulan is the daughter of a wealthy/noble household. Her outfit seems par the course. The movie itself was a travesty, but I suppose a 12-year war campaign of barbarian-fighting badassery sans shitty dragon and cricket sidekicks would been too much to ask for from Disney.
googleplex
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I mean, for fucks sake.
Where the fuck is Kida from Atlantis?
Where the fuck is Vanellope von schweetz?
How do you exclude the two best princesses?
PorcellainThrill
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Woah, woah can't have that.
What if they release an ugly toyline now??
What if the children play with the ugly toys and then think it is okay to play with the ugly children?
No one should play with the ugly children.
What if they release an ugly toyline now??
What if the children play with the ugly toys and then think it is okay to play with the ugly children?
No one should play with the ugly children.
Yofaycesux
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The way I saw it explained made more sense than just looking. I'll try to break it down.
I NEED SCISSORS
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The character model, at its core, looks exactly the same. Obviously woman should be banned from using variables like makeup and better clothes..
The added make up is pretty evident.
The waist to hip ratio is also different, but i'd say that can very well be simply due to different artists/2d-3d transition.
I haven't seen Brave, but i guess adding make up defeats the point of the character?
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