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Breaking: Fallout IP Sold To Bethesda
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Fragamemnon
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White Man said:
I can't wait to level up my radiation hardiness skill while sitting on a impact crater in the Necropolis for four hours huffing small doses of leftover Cesium-137 and Strontium-90, injecting myself with a rad hypo every six minutes or so while playing a real game on my laptop.
BUT IT HAS 120 HOURS OF GAMEPLAY.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
Even Vanguard, developed by a smaller and new studio, cost 30 million according to what I've read. That's what 5 years of development will do, but none-the-less it's not cheap.
And I don't think that even includes server infrastructure which in itself costs far, far more than most people apparently think (according to Raph Koster at least).
And I don't think that even includes server infrastructure which in itself costs far, far more than most people apparently think (according to Raph Koster at least).
Fragamemnon
Member
Zilch said:
Both of the campaigns are arguably better than the Bioware originals, from the perspective of writing. KOTOR2 is only badmouthed because the ending is botched, but for me, the 30+ hours of great writing and characters absolved any need for a decent ending.
NWN2's campaign is 100X better than the NWN campaign. The only problem with NWN2 has been tooling and support, which has finally come around.
Obsidian is a good studio. They know their stuff. They had two games get burned by publishers beating the living daylights out of them in terms of development time-KOTOR2 got 13 months, and NWN2 was arguably rushed to keep Atari from completely going under.
Prime crotch
Banned
Well you heard wrong, KOTOR 2 was only shamed because of the last game hours where they had to cut basicly everything since Lucas Arts wanted the game out fast.Zilch said:
Ohhh still a big meh on Bethesda making Fallout 3 and a wtf on Interplay making an MMO.Clevinger said:
Didn't they had this idea a long time ago?
buckfutter
Member
Retrieve the water chip by either attacking the bandits, sneaking up and attacking the bandits, or casting a spell on the bandits so they like you. Truly a next-gen level of choice.
blivion is considered one of the best rpg's. 
I hate people. Fragamemnon
Member
buckfutter said:
Except in a Bethesda game, the bandits saw you from stealth the minute they entered clipping range and casting a spell doesn't do any damage. So you just get out your weapons and HACK AWAY.
Provided you didn't install the mods to fix that stuff, that is.
Prime crotch said:
Yes, they did had (
) the idea a long time ago. Basically, the CEO of interplay did a horrible job managing the company, he loses practically everything (building, employees, etc.), but still maintains the mirage that he can bring it back. The MMORPG is more or less a pipe-dream. It ain't gonna happen.I'm sorry, but Bethseda makes decently-fun RPGs, and not phenomenal ones. And I've been following them since ES II aka Daggerfall. Oblivion was disappointing for me.
Fallout on the otherhand, was a groundbreaking type of awesome. I freakin cringe at the thought of level-adjusting, generic-dungeoned, plot-challenged, fed-ex-centered gameplay for such a venerable franchise such as Fallout.
Not much better than knowing System Shock franchise belongs to the evil empire aka EA.
Fallout on the otherhand, was a groundbreaking type of awesome. I freakin cringe at the thought of level-adjusting, generic-dungeoned, plot-challenged, fed-ex-centered gameplay for such a venerable franchise such as Fallout.
Not much better than knowing System Shock franchise belongs to the evil empire aka EA.
It shouldn't happen. Of all the gaming series in the world, Fallout would be the worst one to make an MMO out of. It's basically all desert with an occasional town.Clevinger said:Yes, they did had (
Jenga said:
I'm actually looking forward to this... I love fallout, and i love bethesda, but i gotta agree with you. I can't imagine the bethesda writing a game in the style of fallout. I don't think they have bad writers or anything, it's just a completly different vibe.
I'm hoping for the best. Maybe they hired some new writers or maybe the guys they have are more versatile than we think.
My Arms Your Hearse
Banned
Fragamemnon sums up my feelings on Oblivion PERFECTLY. :lol
Hard to say how many hours I wasted on the Imperial Waterfront jumping off houses while casting spells to level up. The game definitely pads its length with the inane tedium of leveling up certain skills.
I'm not really sure why people are expecting the gameplay to be anything to talk about, either, as prior ES games were sleep inducing, and while combat improved in Oblivion, it was still very simplistic stuff (that also took FOREVER to level up no matter how "proficient" at combat you were).
Hard to say how many hours I wasted on the Imperial Waterfront jumping off houses while casting spells to level up. The game definitely pads its length with the inane tedium of leveling up certain skills.
I'm not really sure why people are expecting the gameplay to be anything to talk about, either, as prior ES games were sleep inducing, and while combat improved in Oblivion, it was still very simplistic stuff (that also took FOREVER to level up no matter how "proficient" at combat you were).
krypt0nian
Banned
Vark said:I haven't been in the loop since last year so I couldn't tell you. I can make shit up though if you'd like
Could you make up some shit about no level equalization? I would love that story.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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http://www.bighugegames.com/press_kenrolston.shtml
I wonder how the game will turn out now that this guy is gone. Maybe it is for the best.
I wonder how the game will turn out now that this guy is gone. Maybe it is for the best.
Jenga said:
Well that's what i'm saying. The books are pretty nifty, so i wouldn't say the guys are bad writers.
One problem is the massive number of NPC's.. most of them can't be given any individual attention. but beyond all that, fallout had a particular kind of sarcasm and a very specific vibe. The only thing i doubt is bethesda's ability to capture that.
I think it will probably be a good game anyway, and i bet they're trying their best to make a game in the spirit of the original fallouts, even if the fundamental gameplay is a lot different.
I hope they surprise me and nail the writing, but that's the one area were i'm pessemistic.
KyanMehwulfe
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p.s. I should add that this news is made of win and awesomesauce.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
Wondered how long it would take for this to get out. Less than 3 days -- I had a feeling NMA'd find it first!
A Black Falcon
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davepoobond said:
Interplay never closed, technically, so they are "still around"... but as for $75 million dollars, I highly doubt that they currently have that kind of money. Note all the stuff in that text about 'if they have the money at time X', etc... they are hoping to raise (borrow) money, to make the game with. If they can't, maybe Interplay will finally die... it was a great company, but it was ruined by Titus and Herve Caen and I don't think they can recover now, to say the least.
White Man said:
Sounds about right...
I'm pretty sure I posted about the Fallout MMO already ... and people called it old news even then.
Bethesda buying the IP is great news.
Bethesda buying the IP is great news.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
ToxicAdam said:
The MMOG is old news, what's new is that Interplay sold Bethesda the entirety of the Fallout IP, which previously Bethesda was licensing from Interplay. Now Interplay will be licensing the Fallout IP from Bethesda to make their MMOG.
Oblivion had the WORST 'STEALTH' in gaming history.
Horrific horrific stuff. Just plain ugly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3PXiV95kwA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mcJAI6oRYY&mode=related&search=
I'll know from the FIRST 10 seconds Bethseda! FIRST TEN SECONDS.
Horrific horrific stuff. Just plain ugly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3PXiV95kwA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mcJAI6oRYY&mode=related&search=
I'll know from the FIRST 10 seconds Bethseda! FIRST TEN SECONDS.
Azih said:
I'm sure they're shaking in their money filled boots... :lol
Better watch out Meister, Azih will know! Ten seconds tops!
Edit: Also, "worst stealth" compared to what? Splinter Cell? Thief? Games who's sole gameplay element was stealth?
What about compared to a first person, real-time game that also deals with stats and levels in stealth, a magic system, an alchemy system, a melee system, enchanting system, spell making system, dialogue, whole cities of AI, dungeons, open wilderness, quests, and every other nuance attributed to an nonlinear RPG?
The only thing I can think of that's similar is Deus Ex, but even that is a much smaller scope.
But no, let's just shit on Bethesda and their work.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Interplay?!
HOLY SHIT!
HOLY SHIT!
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Who even works for Interplay now? I figured they all left.......
Maxwell House
Member
If they turn Fallout into a real time, 3d game I will be frigging pissed.
why does everyone keep assuming Fallout 3 will be a sci-fi themed Oblivion? I'd like to think we should give Bethesda more credit and that they'll be able to come up with a game that carries on the Fallout experience without dipping into elder scrolls gameplay.
(I love Oblivion, but I also liked the Fallout games and I have high expectations).
(I love Oblivion, but I also liked the Fallout games and I have high expectations).
Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
I stopped paying attention to all of it years ago, but the last thing I remember was only the CEO was left of the company. He had to lay off all the employees, sell the building, all the equipment etc. He basically set up shop in-home pretending he still had a company that will salvage. This was around the time when Bethesda licensed Fallout 3 and 4 (and 5? I don't remember). At that point he announced the Fallout Online game, when he had basically nothing (but a few game licenses to sell).
Pellham said:
Because a Bethesda PR guy made a dumb comment before they assembled a team to start pre-production on Fallout 3. Fanatics made a knee-jerk reaction the moment it was announced that it will be X, because Y, and have only gotten more angry due to obsession and fanaticism.
Alot of fanatics who are ignorant of technology use "we are using the engine of Oblivion to make FO3" as another example that it will be Oblivion with guns.
Also, Bethesda has never made an isometric/turn-based RPG, so that's another reason fanatics are deadlocked that it will be X. For some reason they don't take into account that they've never even made an RPG outside of ES, but who cares? **** bethesda, AMRIGHT?
But really, I think the main culprit is hyperbole knee-jerk reactions being perpetually screamed by borderline insane fans. The hyperbole has slowly seeped into the more normal gaming communities.
Adam Blade
WWKC
... iirc, Vark doesn't work for Bethesda anymore, so why the questions? Ask StevieM instead. 
buckfutter
Member
It's going to be first person and real-time. Maybe third person. Maybe.Clevinger said:
Which doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be a bad game. Just pointing out the obvious, given Bethesda's history, and the platforms it's headed to.
Pellham said:
If you have any knowledge of Bethesda, you would know the only RPGs they have ever developed are Elder Scroll games so unless they have hired personel that are related to the previous Fallout\Wasteland games than I have pessimistic attitude if they can produce a true to form sequel to Fallout, at least it won't be a sequel to Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel.