But he is the President (of the Commission) and can make executive decisions.
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Brexit: British expats sue EU's Juncker over talks
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But he is the President (of the Commission) and can make executive decisions.
SporeCrawler
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You can blame them for targetting the wrong people. The EU commission has no fault for a stupid decision by the UK people
Yes, they are aiming at the wrong party.
Frankfurter
Member
I'm sure those expats will have great success lol.
Souldriver
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I don't even know if this is a parody post or not.
This whole Brexit "mess" is due to a thing Juncker said? I would have thought voting to leave the Union without knowing the consequences and immediately chickening out on the results leaving the whole EU in some kind of limbo would have been the "messy" thing.
As someone who personally feels sympathy for the UK and it's people, the UK actually doesn't deserve any sympathy from the EU or its leaders at all. It's a self inflicted wound from the UK, and the EU is just acting to preserve it's own stability, prosperity and sanity.
GeordieMark
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I'd have banned your arse if I had the power, which I don't so meh.
It wasn't indelicate. It was just downright ignorant.
Of course they did. Most of them are the worst examples of self-entitled Little England fuckos.
It was poetry.
Some, maybe... but as someone who knows a lot of expats as virtue of having grown up in Belgium, the vast majority of them were remainers.
Audioboxer
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Eh, hard to tell, some will be.
You tend to find Brexit was largely framed as young vs old. With us carrying more old people than ever as they're living longer you get some seriously dodgy voting at times. Old people are largely set in their ways and at times trying to convince them is like faceplanting a wall. Some of the most racist fucks are the old nationalists, as in nationalist for all the wrong reasons. It's not just that they love their country, they love being white, and born in Britain. So fuck the immigrants!
Hence why it is frustrating for young people wanting to build a more inclusive and diverse society to live and work in. When older retired people who have their savings to sit on and go holidays vote in a destructive way for the future young people are at risk.
PdotMichael
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I mean we have even first wave immigrants voting for leave.
Orniletter
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He remided the EU 27 that it's literally illegal to negotiate indivividually with the UK.
But I'm not even surprised that you perceived that as a threat or Juncker overstepping boundaries going by your ""opinions"" in the UK thread.
MasterOfPastures
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Well, thank the gods for that then.
You are the perfect example of a pro brexit person: very angry, very loud, and knows shit all about the EU but nonetheless feels compelled to act outraged.
Hehehe fair enough, though it wasn't wise to exit the EU, i just think too many people in that thread are too anti UK. The way i see things doesn't mean I'm for both establishments. I think my views are more along the lines of things being done in a way that all countries within or out benefit from each other. heh
Rules don't apply to special snowflakes.
PdotMichael
Banned
No country except the UK benefits from giving them whatever they want. The EU isn't part of the old British Empire.
IdreamofHIME
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You do realise this is peoples lifes we are talking about here? Many ex pats voted to remain. If I was a ex pat I to would want to know what would happen to me and my family with Brexit. Yes Jancker is following the rules, but I can also see why people would be scared about their futures.
Good thing you are no where near any policy making. wtf ?
PdotMichael
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It says a lot that people still trying to blame and see the EU as the big bad actor behind all this.
No, it's your shitty goverment in London who did that.
Skellig Gra
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Right because you have to be British to be an expat so they are naturally superior
Schulz and Juncker are probably the only ones who really try to keep the European idea alive and develop it further. Good on them. Wish we could go for a "core EU" in which selected member states start to integrate further, and aren't held back by countries such as the UK.
The UK government could just trigger article 50.
The UK government could just trigger article 50.
Yes I know that hence why I voted remain. But as I said I could see why people would want the EU and UK to sort things out before exiting. You have to remember not all people voted leave.
If we were anti-UK, we wouldn't be mad for the UK leaving. We wanted the UK in Europe.
PdotMichael
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It's clearly stated that the UK must officialy state the will of leaving the EU.
That's fact. How is that even supposed to work, making deals about leaving the EU although officially there was nothing ever declared to anyone?
Many people are anti UK. It's kind of obvious to see.
Frankfurter
Member
Then blame your government for holding a referendum in the first place. And blame 52% of of the UKs population for voting the way they did.
Nah. If you guys hadn't voted Leave none of this would be happening. This is anti-Leave hatred and is perfectly understandable.
Skellig Gra
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That is a self inflicted wound with Brexit and the subsequent racial issues
I know all that. I clearly said that in my post first of all. All I am saying is I can see why some expats are scared about their futures and want to know whether they will have to leave their lives behind or not. The EU and the UK government should at least come to together to sort out that. Imagine not knowing if you are going to get kicked out a country or not after years of living there. I say the same thing should happen for people that moved to the UK. It's called caring for your fellow human beings. Not all Brits wanted this crap, but now all are effected.
I blame them, this isn't about that. This is about peoples lives being effected.
PdotMichael
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People aren't playing along with the UK, therefore they are bad people.
Calling people from the UK limeys is not playing along...
Frankfurter
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The UK may be on this kind of road, but the other EU countries don't seem to be. That's not a guarantee, mind you, but I do think there is a ~0% possibility that UK citizens get kicked out of their country of residence unless the UK government goes all crazy during the negotiations.
That's the problem with most government decisions. EU and UK will sort it out, once the UK triggers article 50. The EU's stance on most points is entirely clear and most are not debatable. The UK can either decide to adhere to these points, or they can decide not to and thus face the consequences.
I was fairly active in the run upto Brexit referendum threads but since...I barely post in these. I argued for voting Remain but with reservations about the EU as a large, and the discussion in the referendum thread was fairly civil and good natured.
Nowadays I see these GAF threads and dont bother, since more than half the posts are 'FUCK UK' and 'YOU DUMB FUCKS ARE GOING TO GET REKT BY EU NEGOTIATION' and the like. It's disheartening and childish in a vein that I'd be more used to seeing on 4chan.
The 27 EU states cannot legally negotiate as individuals with the UK (or any other country), they negotiate as a bloc. Juncker's statement merely repeats this obvious fact, he did not issue some decree preventing individual negotiations as these were never on the table to begin with.
If you are so concerned about mandates, where is Theresa May's? Nobody voted for her, she was a representative of the losing side on the referendum, and she has spent her time deciding what Brexit is among her chums in secret, without putting any of these policies to parliament.
I wouldn't preach about mandate if I was representing a country that continued to prop up both a monarchy and an unelected house of lords.
I hope May suddenly changes her mind and doesn't go for a hard Brexit. Many peoples futures are fucked because of this rubbish ( mine included, I have little chance of getting a job because of this). It's just a complete fuck up.
Frankfurter
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This is my hope as well. I don't quite see it right now, because of the stance on immigration. But a "soft" Brexit a la Norway or Switzerland would be a far better solution for both sides.
Really? I've posted in a lot of these threads and it seems the majority of the posters are British and those who aren't are largely sympathetic to those of us in this mess who didn't vote for it, even if - justifiably - they think our government are a gaggle of morons who shouldn't be indulged.
I still have some (misguided?) faith that this Hard Brexit nonsense from May is to 1) placate the Brexit morons (and backbenchers) who want a50 to happen ASAP, so the tory's don't siphon votes to UKIP, and 2) it's a negotiation tactic to show the EU that we're prepared to go full Brexit should talks not go our way.
But either way, it's a far from ideal situation and we're most definitely going to end up in a weaker position compared to the sweet deal we have in the EU.
Very amused by the persecution complex posts from some UK gaffers. Every thread mocking the UK is well deserved. Frankly it's been too light - the constituency of Brexit are the same as Trump supporters. Time for the world to see what the UK is really about. Where do you think Red State US came from?
Already some truly moronic anti EU posts in here. Does mere mention of Juncker, who I concede is a knob at times, set you off? Then again a fundamental misunderstanding of the institutions of the EU is the reason we're here, people don't school too good.
The EU is going to ruin us in the negotiations, which will be nothing more than a shakedown. The Americans also know they will be on one side of this - the EU's - only Trump would change this and he is going to be demolished by Hilldawg.
Already some truly moronic anti EU posts in here. Does mere mention of Juncker, who I concede is a knob at times, set you off? Then again a fundamental misunderstanding of the institutions of the EU is the reason we're here, people don't school too good.
The EU is going to ruin us in the negotiations, which will be nothing more than a shakedown. The Americans also know they will be on one side of this - the EU's - only Trump would change this and he is going to be demolished by Hilldawg.
GeordieMark
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You completely miss that less than half the country voted for Brexit. Clearly you have no idea what the UK is "really about". Get some perspective and check yourself before you start digging out others.
Audioboxer
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PdotMichael
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The goverment decided to ignore the 48% percent and double dip on the 52%.
It's not the job of foreign countries to ignore the own interest for the 48%.
Apparently a majority of British wanted this. Else a majority would've voted for "stay". Laziness is not an excuse.
PdotMichael
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It's also funny becauset the EU wants the four freedoms at all cost. It's the UK, the own goverment, who is a danger to the four freedoms.
ClosingADoor
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Which talks? Aren't they supposed to trigger article 50 first before negotiations.
And a hard Brexit is more damaging to the UK then the EU anyway. That financial sector in the UK will be screwed that way.
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