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Bungie: "Destiny Is a Different Game After 20 Hours"
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Lucent
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I reached level 27 today. Have an exotic chest piece I bought from Xur, legendary boots I managed to get from a legendary engram, and legendaries I bought from the FWC faction for the rest. Forgot that Bungie screwed up and had the FWC faction gear require Ascendant Motes, which aren't in the game at all, so my progress to anything higher than maybe 28 is blocked. =/
I've been playing it every night since launch, but I think I'm burned out now. I don't know how you can "become legend" in this game. Or build a story around your character. You're doing everything everyone else is doing. The story was horrible. None of it made sense. That robot girl was only in like 3 scenes and only talked to you in 2 of them. She just gives you a pulse rifle and leaves. What?
I bought the game on X1 using M$ points I got from that Gamestop promo months back, so I'm not as mad as I could be. So I guess I'm stuck with it and will go to it from time to time to see how they've changed it if at all. Really having a hard time seeing how there's anything new about the game after 20 besides having to grind it out to upgrade your gear and repeat the same strikes over and over but just on higher difficulties. And PvP is only fun for so long.
I've been playing it every night since launch, but I think I'm burned out now. I don't know how you can "become legend" in this game. Or build a story around your character. You're doing everything everyone else is doing. The story was horrible. None of it made sense. That robot girl was only in like 3 scenes and only talked to you in 2 of them. She just gives you a pulse rifle and leaves. What?
I bought the game on X1 using M$ points I got from that Gamestop promo months back, so I'm not as mad as I could be. So I guess I'm stuck with it and will go to it from time to time to see how they've changed it if at all. Really having a hard time seeing how there's anything new about the game after 20 besides having to grind it out to upgrade your gear and repeat the same strikes over and over but just on higher difficulties. And PvP is only fun for so long.
Darth Ghandi
Banned
This!
20-24 was fun-ish with running strikes and what not. But after that you hit a brick wall level wise and you must grind, grind, grind.
So now that I have grinded, grinded, and grinded. I'm lvl 27 and the only thing I have not fully done is the final boss in the vault.
That's the thing. Equipping it switches your sub-class, but it's completely new so you'll have to relearn all the abilities (including stuff that is the same like double jumping) etc from scratch making it useless till you level it up (not that this is ever explained). There is no exp bar at the bottom of the screen like before either, but you will see the progress if you go to the detail view of the focus.
Yeah man after a couple weeks with the game I finally had enough friends on who were high enough level to attempt the weekly strike. It was definitely more fun than the vanilla mission, the enemy AI was way better in some ways but they also soaked up a lot more damage and seemed to fire more accurately.
I got a Legendary Engram out of it, 2 Motes of Fuckin Light, and that's why this game sucks, it's such a fuckin grind. My buddy who is level 26 is marginally better at shooters than me, he just has more time to play so he has better gear to take and deal more damage. He loves it, he's in on public events and all that jazz but it's just not for me.
I'm definitely not gonna put all this time into the grind because eventually they'll raise the cap and all that loot will be obsolete. Could be as soon as the expansion but the game just isn't fun enough to justify playing the same shit over and over with "skulls" turned on. I wanna check out the raid but I'm just not getting good drops, +2 light for the whole week, just doesn't seem worth it.
I got a Legendary Engram out of it, 2 Motes of Fuckin Light, and that's why this game sucks, it's such a fuckin grind. My buddy who is level 26 is marginally better at shooters than me, he just has more time to play so he has better gear to take and deal more damage. He loves it, he's in on public events and all that jazz but it's just not for me.
I'm definitely not gonna put all this time into the grind because eventually they'll raise the cap and all that loot will be obsolete. Could be as soon as the expansion but the game just isn't fun enough to justify playing the same shit over and over with "skulls" turned on. I wanna check out the raid but I'm just not getting good drops, +2 light for the whole week, just doesn't seem worth it.
JimmyRustler
Member
Seems like you got your money worth back.
Also, you could level up other classes no? I do think every class has a distinctive feel to it.
I like the game. And it's really surprising that this "worthless", "6/10", "mediocre" game is being played for the third week straight by most of my friend list on PSN. Heck, I haven't seen so many people online in it one-timely - more than 50!
Destiny is a grind game. Like Diablo or Borderlands. And no, it's not like Halo or Call of Duty single campaigns. It's all about social interaction and grind-grind-grind. Also lots of small mechanics to trap you in game for "few more minutes".
Destiny is a grind game. Like Diablo or Borderlands. And no, it's not like Halo or Call of Duty single campaigns. It's all about social interaction and grind-grind-grind. Also lots of small mechanics to trap you in game for "few more minutes".
Miles Quaritch
Member
What else would they play right now?
Let's see how well it holds up from next week onwards.
RedAssedApe
Banned
I doNt think think I'll make it to the raid at this pace. Everything just takes to long when there is so little content. October can't come soon enough as this game is quickly becoming boring. Pvp cant even tide me over like the usual cod or halo.
My casual friends will probably be done with it after finishing the story missions. No way they will have the time and patience to grind to 26 with the crap drop rates and randomness of the Engrams
Will be curious what kind of legs this has one the heavy hitters release.
My casual friends will probably be done with it after finishing the story missions. No way they will have the time and patience to grind to 26 with the crap drop rates and randomness of the Engrams
Will be curious what kind of legs this has one the heavy hitters release.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Seriously. I want Shadows of Mordor, Smash Bros U, and Dragon Age but none of those are out right now. I'm playing Destiny because nothing else exists.
Twilight Gap
Member
Lucent
Member
They're different enough but I'd still be doing the same thing. =/
RedAssedApe
Banned
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Twilight Gap
Member
destiny before level 20 and after level 20 is the difference between running up the stairs and running on a treadmill.
Lucent
Member
Perfect.
JimmyRustler
Member
So? This a loot game and in every loot game I ever played I was doing the same thing all over again.
At least here, no matter what you do, you make progress in something. May it be vanguard level, cryptarch level, weapon levels.... And above that is already the raid on the horizon that you are working towards.
True facts being said, not quite a selling point though 
Also every game I've played has been a fairly different experience 20 hours in as I've either completed it, or play the game totally different compared to the initial few hours due to learning the mechanics, unlocking additional parts of the game and overall experience.
Also every game I've played has been a fairly different experience 20 hours in as I've either completed it, or play the game totally different compared to the initial few hours due to learning the mechanics, unlocking additional parts of the game and overall experience.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
I'm done with this game.
Biggest disappointment in years. The first few days were fun exploring (even though there isn't a fat lot to check out at apart from spam the share button for some awesome pics) and playing with friends, but I've hit level 24 and have spent hours trying to get better loot and just nothing. Hit a brick wall of fun and a brick wall of levelling up.
Had about 20 fucking legendary engrams all giving me rares that are worse than what I have and I just can't be bothered with all this effort for little gain. It's just not fun anymore.
Thankfully I've got a backlog of great WiiU and Wii games to be getting on with. Something seriously changed with this game during it's development.
Biggest disappointment in years. The first few days were fun exploring (even though there isn't a fat lot to check out at apart from spam the share button for some awesome pics) and playing with friends, but I've hit level 24 and have spent hours trying to get better loot and just nothing. Hit a brick wall of fun and a brick wall of levelling up.
Had about 20 fucking legendary engrams all giving me rares that are worse than what I have and I just can't be bothered with all this effort for little gain. It's just not fun anymore.
Thankfully I've got a backlog of great WiiU and Wii games to be getting on with. Something seriously changed with this game during it's development.
Fattony12000
Member
My selected comments on the game, from Giant Bomb...
http://www.giantbomb.com/destiny/3030-36067/forums/i-have-gotten-0-legendary-drops-in-destiny-1495404/
http://www.giantbomb.com/destiny/3030-36067/forums/destiny-ending-discussion-only-spoilers-1494487/
http://www.giantbomb.com/hyrule-warriors/3030-44782/forums/this-game-is-pretty-awesome-1495237/
http://www.giantbomb.com/destiny/3030-36067/forums/i-have-gotten-0-legendary-drops-in-destiny-1495404/
http://www.giantbomb.com/destiny/3030-36067/forums/destiny-ending-discussion-only-spoilers-1494487/
http://www.giantbomb.com/hyrule-warriors/3030-44782/forums/this-game-is-pretty-awesome-1495237/
So last night we managed to ALMOST clear the vault but the last boss was just a tad to much for us level 26.
But god that place turns the game around, its so much fun and so much better then the silly strike missions, why didn't bungie build more of this into the regular story / bosses?
I had a blast and its what i needed because after 30 hours i was already getting burned out.
But god that place turns the game around, its so much fun and so much better then the silly strike missions, why didn't bungie build more of this into the regular story / bosses?
I had a blast and its what i needed because after 30 hours i was already getting burned out.
I don't know but it doesn't excuse the Strike design, like they seem to want reviewers to do.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
All the classes can wield the same weapons, no one class have any advantage over a certain weapon type.
They're all restricted to their own gear which drop regardless... At least during leveling.
3 out of 4 of each classes are the same- A grenade, a double jump and a melee. Regardless of it's effect you toss a grenade into a group of mobs, you double jump to move to higher places or across the field, and you punch/stab things in the face.
The only truly unique abilities are the supers, and you don't use them nearly as much due to the nature of it.
If you get down to it, yes.
But clearly there are some that does it better than others, or at least masked that illusion better.
btw if Bungie just wanted to make a loot game, they shouldn't have tried to make it sound like they were crafting something legendary.
Ashler
Member
This really is a different game passed lvl 20.
It's a different game in the sense that it becomes a tired old grind fest where every single mission/bounty/strike that you sign up for is exactly like one you previously did... while you rack up faction, vanguard or crucible points without end in the hopes to reach a point where you can buy stuff to lvl up.
In between you pray for a chance to get good loot, getting your hopes up when you find a legendary enagram, only to cash it out as a uncommon, rare (lower light than what you already have of course) or something completely useless.
... and you know what, I actually can't stop playing this game, i still play it every day in the hopes of getting to lvl 30.
It's a different game in the sense that it becomes a tired old grind fest where every single mission/bounty/strike that you sign up for is exactly like one you previously did... while you rack up faction, vanguard or crucible points without end in the hopes to reach a point where you can buy stuff to lvl up.
In between you pray for a chance to get good loot, getting your hopes up when you find a legendary enagram, only to cash it out as a uncommon, rare (lower light than what you already have of course) or something completely useless.
... and you know what, I actually can't stop playing this game, i still play it every day in the hopes of getting to lvl 30.
Alright, reporting past the 20 hours mark!
Content was boring already, but now I have to farm it to no end. Strike playlists are kinda fun, if I get it right, the fun part is guessing how many people will leave before the first boss because it's not the strike they hoped, and requeue. Pretty cool. I found three legendary engrams so it's all good, except the Cryptarch guy is an asshole and told me it was actually blue crap. All three of them. I'm pretty sure he kept the real items for himself, I used to do that when opening chests for people in WoW too so I get it.
Now I'm working on some elaborate sign language routine based on dances and pointing to indicate other players that I would like to do the weekly strike.
So yeah, sure, it's a different game alright.
Content was boring already, but now I have to farm it to no end. Strike playlists are kinda fun, if I get it right, the fun part is guessing how many people will leave before the first boss because it's not the strike they hoped, and requeue. Pretty cool. I found three legendary engrams so it's all good, except the Cryptarch guy is an asshole and told me it was actually blue crap. All three of them. I'm pretty sure he kept the real items for himself, I used to do that when opening chests for people in WoW too so I get it.
Now I'm working on some elaborate sign language routine based on dances and pointing to indicate other players that I would like to do the weekly strike.
So yeah, sure, it's a different game alright.
Omotesando
Member
How you guys all get this 20-30 legendary engrams, wtf? I don't believe you, I also rarely see it drom for others in pvp, maybe one a day. A whole fucking day.
I have played from launch hour and only get two legendary engrams till now two weeks later. I got http://youtu.be/twt_Y1su8XU from the second engram I got though. Rahool was sweet and this hand gun is even sweeter, I earned that from Pvp and it also usable in pve, all problems aside, I love this game. Leveling the gun up is perfectly balanced, I just need to farm Energy now, I got two already from stumbling on public events.
I have played from launch hour and only get two legendary engrams till now two weeks later. I got http://youtu.be/twt_Y1su8XU from the second engram I got though. Rahool was sweet and this hand gun is even sweeter, I earned that from Pvp and it also usable in pve, all problems aside, I love this game. Leveling the gun up is perfectly balanced, I just need to farm Energy now, I got two already from stumbling on public events.
Haunted
Member
damn son
Nothing1016
Member
Level 24 but not sure of my hour count. Having a ton of fun with PVP and grinding for gear. I can take the abuse.
Anyways, I feel that Bungie has a solid foundation in place to create a great franchise. Its unfortunate that the first game is lacking in key areas but I can definitely tell what they are aiming for. Feels like the game should've been in the oven for 1-2 more years to add in more content and fix broken systems such as the gear dropping RNG. I have hight hopes that Bungie can deliver through DLC, expansions, and sequels.
Anyways, I feel that Bungie has a solid foundation in place to create a great franchise. Its unfortunate that the first game is lacking in key areas but I can definitely tell what they are aiming for. Feels like the game should've been in the oven for 1-2 more years to add in more content and fix broken systems such as the gear dropping RNG. I have hight hopes that Bungie can deliver through DLC, expansions, and sequels.
Citizen_Insane
Member
Edit: wrong thread.
Isnt this what gamers have always wanted tho? Gamers seem to complain that AAA games now days are too focused on the story and not enough on the gameplay. Now we got a game with fun gameplay but no story and people are mad? I really dont know what people want.
/s
Gamers never asked for a fucking shitty and lazy ass story. If they had ripped out the story campaign altogether it would have been better received.
edit: damn your edit.
I thought thats what they did to be honest. It's like there was a story there but its gone now
PrivateWHudson
Member
That really makes sense and is a great idea. For some reason it reminded me of the population map when you went online with halo 3. There was something rewarding just seeing all of those pockets of people around the globe fighting the good fight. Something like that overlaid on the solar system map showing where guardians are fighting, and then show enemy forces being pushed to a different location. If you go there you get more war events spawning.
robertlebrone
Member
I'll say even though I mentioned I don't see myself grinding for gear, I genuinely enjoy playing the game simply to play it. Not because I'm looking for gear or because I'm trying to gain rep or anything like that. So I can definitely see how someone with that mindset would feel differently about this game. I'll play it until it gets boring then move on. I started a new class a couple days ago and plan on getting all 3 classes to 20 at some point just because I enjoy the game so... yea. I'm getting my $60 of fun out of Destiny for sure.
Lol sorry about that. Although Im loving the game the one thing I will agree on with the complaints is the story is terrible. Its bare bones and when you think its going to be epic it disappointing with dry humor and lackluster bosses. I mean the last boss is lame in every way possible even the lead up. "are you ready to kill a god?" " well I guess I have to" Lol wtf this guy casually goes up against the enemy who started this long war? The ending was forgettable, what was it? Just a bunch of guys saluting? Outside of the lame ass story this game is extremely fun for me
You can critique all you want, Just know you yours and other hardcore enthusiasts complaints can be ignored to some level if the general population keeps buying and playing the game.
Lucent
Member
I ranked up FWC to 2 so I could get the armor. No reason to rank it up more because all I unlock is new emblems. Since all the armor is pretty much the same between factions besides some certain things like extra ammo for _____ weapon, there's no reason to really upgrade the other factions.
Upgrading Cryptarch doesn't do anything besides him giving you packages that may or may not contain anything good.
I'm not putting the game down completely, but just gonna play it a lot less. I'll see if they make it more fun to play down the road. It didn't sound like people got much of anything amazing for their hard work through the Raid either.
Messofanego
Banned
This post!
PseudoViper
Member
Magic number here is 20 guys. Anything after level 20 is...
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I'm really enjoying it too. It reminds me a lot of Halo reach with all the daily challenges. I like doing that type of stuff.
I'm only at Level 23 as I'm not grinding a ton. Mainly just try to do the vanguard bounties and my daily heroic story mission, a little patroling for public events etc. and getting stuff as I go. Though I need to start farming resources for upgrades more.
I was reserving judgement until that Queen stuff launched - thinking it'd be a new hub, new quests and stuff.
Nope. Retreading missions you've already done and new bounties (well - "new" in that they give you progress towards a different rank.)
Really disappointed.
And this
Nope. Retreading missions you've already done and new bounties (well - "new" in that they give you progress towards a different rank.)
Really disappointed.
And this
We just beat the Vault last night. Easily the best part of the game.
If they have more content like this on deck they should be hyping it up as soon as possible. I think if more people played the Vault, and knew that more stuff like that was coming it would keep people from jumping ship.
NullPointer
Member
My experience:
Destiny pre 20th level: Do story missions, do strikes as they come, do patrols to explore and to level up if needed for the next strike or story mission. Get a steady clip of upgrades from NPCs as I complete missions and level up. All soloable, as story missions autobalance and strikes have matchmaking.
Destiny post 20th level: Run the strikes playlist - do the daily story challenge if we have a full fire-team (no matchmaking) and get no after-activity rewards, maybe try the heroic strike. Slowly but surely acquire better light gear.
Destiny pre 20th level: Do story missions, do strikes as they come, do patrols to explore and to level up if needed for the next strike or story mission. Get a steady clip of upgrades from NPCs as I complete missions and level up. All soloable, as story missions autobalance and strikes have matchmaking.
Destiny post 20th level: Run the strikes playlist - do the daily story challenge if we have a full fire-team (no matchmaking) and get no after-activity rewards, maybe try the heroic strike. Slowly but surely acquire better light gear.
Or hell, just this right here.
The Lamonster
Member
The treadmill metaphor works with Halo and Call of Duty too...
Play through the campaign for 20 hours...play multiplayer for 40 hours.
stairs-->treadmill
Play through the campaign for 20 hours...play multiplayer for 40 hours.
stairs-->treadmill
but at least in COD theirs enough variety in the MP for it to be fun
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