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iPhone doesn't take SD cards.captmcblack said:
The biggest affordable microSD I've seen is only 32gigs.
32gigs ain't shit
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Businessweek describes how Apple's iCloud will work
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The biggest affordable microSD I've seen is only 32gigs.
32gigs ain't shit
Gouty
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BigDug13 said:
I'm currently doing the same thing with Audiogalaxy. And I dont even want that really, its just out of necessity because my phone cant store 100gb + of data. If they think I'm going to pay to stream the music I already own and further rape my phones battery, good luck fellas.
The Friendly Monster
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You really need to get Spotify in the US.
Also will Apple make an Android app?
Also will Apple make an Android app?
This "store all your music in the cloud" stuff is very niche. As much as people like to talk about having tons of music, I don't rhink the average consumer has that much or is facing the problem of getting their music everywhere. People gobble up the smaller sized iPod nanos instead of larger sized iPods. I think a Spotify or Zune like system is something that more people would want.
I'm loving Google Music right now. Yesterday I spent a minute arranging a playlist in my browser on my laptop, put my running shoes on, and right before I start my jog, there's my playlist on my phone ready to go. Awesome.
I'm also streaming music to my phone at work today. I work in a basement where I don't get 3G, but it's still streaming just fine.
I might have to buy a bigger battery (Droid X) but I'm loving this music streaming future.
I'm also streaming music to my phone at work today. I work in a basement where I don't get 3G, but it's still streaming just fine.
I might have to buy a bigger battery (Droid X) but I'm loving this music streaming future.
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that's not really how music works anymoreDina said:
you build up a giant collection over the years and then when you have access to any time you can listen to that weird obscure song from your exgirlfriends band at 230 in the morning.
if you cant do that when you want to, you might as well not listen to music at all
Kung Foo Kid
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numble said:
I don't want to side track the topic, but I always read about people waiting for spotify. I don't see what they offer over a already available service like Rdio.
nVidiot_Whore
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Cloud music services just don't really excite me.
My main music listening is done at home, or in my car.
At home, I have my music server.. and my SqueezeBox hooked up to my high quality system. I can control it from anything with a browser, or my iPhone's, iPod touch, iPad.
In my car? Good luck ever getting consistent wireless while driving, so my 160gb iPod classic goes into my center console, plugged into my infiniti's system that handles iPod's quite well.
The only place having music on the cloud would be somewhat useful to me would be work really.. and it's not like I can't snag my iPod classic from my car and/or just keep a copy on a USB drive.
I agree with numble.. I'm trying to envision where all these people are that have trouble storing their music on their phones or other devices they already walk around with 24/7.
OR.. where this ubiquitous wi-fi is that will make listening to music over Wi-Fi all that enjoyable for "portable" people.. you mostly see people listening to music outside of their homes on public transport, or while exercising.. both have you moving quite a bit.. in and out of wi-fi.. and you really want to always be using your cell data, which is also spotty, for music listening?
My main music listening is done at home, or in my car.
At home, I have my music server.. and my SqueezeBox hooked up to my high quality system. I can control it from anything with a browser, or my iPhone's, iPod touch, iPad.
In my car? Good luck ever getting consistent wireless while driving, so my 160gb iPod classic goes into my center console, plugged into my infiniti's system that handles iPod's quite well.
The only place having music on the cloud would be somewhat useful to me would be work really.. and it's not like I can't snag my iPod classic from my car and/or just keep a copy on a USB drive.
I agree with numble.. I'm trying to envision where all these people are that have trouble storing their music on their phones or other devices they already walk around with 24/7.
OR.. where this ubiquitous wi-fi is that will make listening to music over Wi-Fi all that enjoyable for "portable" people.. you mostly see people listening to music outside of their homes on public transport, or while exercising.. both have you moving quite a bit.. in and out of wi-fi.. and you really want to always be using your cell data, which is also spotty, for music listening?
The Friendly Monster
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Looks pretty much the same to me, is it doing well? Spotify managed to get a massive amount of traction and supporters with its free service before crippling it.Kung Foo Kid said:
PotatoeMasher
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nVidiot_Whore said:
You can sync any amount of music offline with Rdio at least.
Gouty said:
Was that necessary?
I'd be the first to sign up for an unlimited 'music in the cloud' service, but not with Apple, simply because they're running a proprietary-based business and I'd like my music playable on everything I own and will own in the future. And I'm not about to buy audio and video systems from Apple any time soon.
All this article tells me, is that the music industry still doesn't get it at all. They still seem to think they can stop people from pirating music. But what they should be doing, is offering a legal, convenient and not too expensive alternative. If you can get enough people buying a $5 a month music plan, they'll be making bucket loads of money.
I think you overestimate how much data bandwidth music takes up over 3G. It's pretty easy to stream 128k mp4 quality music all around town. Yeah it's not the 256k or lossless quality you might have at home, but it's transcoding it down over 3G so you can be mobile with it.nVidiot_Whore said:
nVidiot_Whore
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PotatoeMasher said:
That's pretty cool.
But "any amount of music" is a bit of a misnomer when the supported device I own is limited to 32gb, and I have no interest in jamming my phone full of music anyways.
So I save the $10.00 a month fee and just have to take my iPod in the house for an iTunes sync when I buy new music.. not really worth it.
captmcblack
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I'm still rocking a 5th gen 60GB iPod Video, and I'll be getting an iPod Touch w/64GB as soon as it comes below $299 new or used.
I don't get the idea of paying monthly or regularly to access music you can access like...all the time for free.
I don't get the idea of paying monthly or regularly to access music you can access like...all the time for free.
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BigDug13 said:
I wasn't just talking about data usage though; I was talking about reliability.
I use Pandora on my phone at times, and it is certainly not stable if I try to use it while driving for example. It's not even all that stable while I'm sitting at work.
And.. meh.. I much prefer listening to higher quality audio as is.. 128kb is highly noticeable to me... even on an iPod which has a fairly cheap DAC I can tell a very clear difference between 128 and 192.. I rip my music at 256 personally.
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Word.PotatoeMasher said:
I've been uploading my stuff to Google music for 2 days now, 2 F-ING DAYS.
Also it was supposed to upload my favorite songs first, so WTF did it upload a bunch of old podcasts and not songs I've listened to hundreds of times.
The "Beta" part of Music Beta by Google really shows.
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I like the idea of iCloud and GMusic, but I'd rather just host myself.
That being said the best paid service IMO is still Zune Pass.
That being said the best paid service IMO is still Zune Pass.
Dreams-Visions
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If this service has a significant fee attached, I don't see it working out. At all. How much do you guys think a service like the described is really worth? I'm thinking $5/month if anything at all.
As I said in the Google announcement thread on the same subject, I'm not sure how this is better than some applications that can connect to your home PC already and stream from anywhere at full quality. I can see if your rips are mediocre...or if your HDD is less than a few hundred GB and you want/need to save space. But streaming in the car (or anywhere in the world)? I do that now. I have maybe 20 songs on my iPhone and 1 movie. Yet when I want to watch or listen to any of my 14,000 songs, connecting to my desktop is the easiest thing in the world. Open app --> connect to home "server" --> select and play. StreamToMe, ZumoCast.
This service will need to impress me more than what has been written of it to date. I'm not sure what will make the service a must-have. I just know I haven't had the epiphany yet.
As I said in the Google announcement thread on the same subject, I'm not sure how this is better than some applications that can connect to your home PC already and stream from anywhere at full quality. I can see if your rips are mediocre...or if your HDD is less than a few hundred GB and you want/need to save space. But streaming in the car (or anywhere in the world)? I do that now. I have maybe 20 songs on my iPhone and 1 movie. Yet when I want to watch or listen to any of my 14,000 songs, connecting to my desktop is the easiest thing in the world. Open app --> connect to home "server" --> select and play. StreamToMe, ZumoCast.
This service will need to impress me more than what has been written of it to date. I'm not sure what will make the service a must-have. I just know I haven't had the epiphany yet.
Kung Foo Kid
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nVidiot_Whore said:
Fair enough, I guess I look at like for $10 a month I can have access to basically any album I want (well at least 95%) including new releases. I can access that music from anywhere, phone, mac, internet browser. If I'm going to be out of service for some reason I can offline sync any of that music I choose to my phone. Everything else is standard fair, playlists, syncing, etc. Plus there is a lot of nice integrated social features.
I guess the concept of saving $10 is lost on me, in that you are only getting one album when you do make a purchase. When you could get that album, plus any others you wanted and all the features that come with the service.
Dreams-Visions
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^ agreed.
What do you believe Apple can do about AT&T's prices for their data services?border said:
sooperkool
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How fast do you think Apple will kill off Zumocast once their solution is in place?
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Kosmo said:
That's what all the speculation has been like for the last year and particularly since the uber-datacenter they just built has started to rev up.
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BigDug13 said:
I live in Seattle.
And I can drive anywhere I want, with no interruptions ever
I guess that's the point. This basically saves people from having to carry around a small device, that they then manually sync using a computer... so that is the "convenience" factor; of course they then have to have a device connected to the internet.. and an internet connection. The trade off for some will actually be a negative, for others, difficult to find much value IMO.
Losing my stream 3-4 times for a couple of minutes though? Again.. why exactly? Why would I do that instead of just having my iPod in my car?
It's not like iCloud is going to be controllable through my cars controls anyways.. so I'll have to be looking at my phone, which is a ticket here.
Kung Foo Kid said:
Ahh.. I thought it was a cloud upload service. Didn't realize that fee came w/ access to all of their music.
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Better fucking not.sooperkool said:
There is a strong chance that Zumo and STM are having some sleepless nights right now, though.
Yeah I agree with you on that. I used the streaming for Pandora which I used like a ghetto XM...radio that I wouldn't exceed the radius of.nVidiot_Whore said:I live in Seattle.
And I can drive anywhere I want, with no interruptions ever
I guess that's the point. This basically saves people from having to carry around a small device, that they then manually sync using a computer... so that is the "convenience" factor; of course they then have to have a device connected to the internet.. and an internet connection. The trade off for some will actually be a negative, for others, difficult to find much value IMO.
Losing my stream 3-4 times for a couple of minutes though? Again.. why exactly? Why would I do that instead of just having my iPod in my car?
It's not like iCloud is going to be controllable through my cars controls anyways.. so I'll have to be looking at my phone, which is a ticket here.
Ahh.. I thought it was a cloud upload service. Didn't realize that fee came w/ access to all of their music.
But to stream my own collection when I have a perfectly good iPod classic nearby?
Dreams-Visions
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^ glad I'm not the only one who isn't seeing the value for those of us with streaming/hardware already in place. I thought I was alone on this yesterday.
Never been driving and had an old song pop up into your head that you haven't heard for awhile? Really?Kosmo said:
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