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Those people haven't lived in California...seriously. everything is here.

Snow, desert, ocean, camping, huge shopping centers, endless entertainment, so many varied amounts of people and experiences to have.

I don't know any other state that can offer all of those things year around.

You live in San Francisco, so I'm not going to argue with you about the awesomeness of YOUR California. MY California is in SoCal. This is where gridlock traffic is an everyday occurrence, where drivebys are so common we've begun blaming the victims for walking out at night, where the density of the population is so high that people have stopped caring about humanity and self-preservation and simply lean into the lanes of oncoming vehicles to signal their desire to jaywalk.

Your California is a cool blue color, populated with polite artists who have the luxury of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge every day, enveloped in a thick wonderland of fluffy fog. My California is brown and hazy, a mixture of endless heat and rising smoke pressing against the Valley, clogging my nostrils with the sweaty stench of 22 million lunatics, assaulting my ears with the the relentless bullshit of Ryan Seacrest, issuing from the orifice of every car radio in my radius.

Your California presents you with the scope of all ecology. Mine beats down on me with an unforgiving sun, 350 days of the year, and then sprinkles me with a pathetic dose of rainwater for a fickle weekend. You look out the window and see the beautiful sights of the Bay area. I look out my window and spectate as a dozen Alley locos kick the crap out of one of their own. Is he trying to get in or get out? I don't care.
 
Even though I live in SoCal switching from a thirsty sports sedan that has a 17.5 gallon fuel capacity, premium only, and about 20mpg (if I'm lucky) to a sippy subcompact with a 10.6 gallon fuel capacity, regular unleaded, and about 30mpg...the rising prices at the fuel pump aren't hurting too much for me =)

Not to mention I also moved recently where my commute from work has changed from 60 miles a day on the gridlocked 101/405 freeways to 10 miles a day on clear city streets with the ability to also bike to work if I wanted to...good times =)
 
You live in San Francisco, so I'm not going to argue with you about the awesomeness of YOUR California. MY California is in SoCal. This is where gridlock traffic is an everyday occurrence, where drivebys are so common we've begun blaming the victims for walking out at night, where the density of the population is so high that people have stopped caring about humanity and self-preservation and simply lean into the lanes of oncoming vehicles to signal their desire to jaywalk.

Your California is a cool blue color, populated with polite artists who have the luxury of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge every day, enveloped in a thick wonderland of fluffy fog. My California is brown and hazy, a mixture of endless heat and rising smoke pressing against the Valley, clogging my nostrils with the sweaty stench of 22 million lunatics, assaulting my ears with the the relentless bullshit of Ryan Seacrest, issuing from the orifice of every car radio in my radius.

Your California presents you with the scope of all ecology. Mine beats down on me with an unforgiving sun, 350 days of the year, and then sprinkles me with a pathetic dose of rainwater for a fickle weekend. You look out the window and see the beautiful sights of the Bay area. I look out my window and spectate as a dozen Alley locos kick the crap out of one of their own. Is he trying to get in or get out? I don't care.

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You live in San Francisco, so I'm not going to argue with you about the awesomeness of YOUR California. MY California is in SoCal. This is where gridlock traffic is an everyday occurrence, where drivebys are so common we've begun blaming the victims for walking out at night, where the density of the population is so high that people have stopped caring about humanity and self-preservation and simply lean into the lanes of oncoming vehicles to signal their desire to jaywalk.

Your California is a cool blue color, populated with polite artists who have the luxury of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge every day, enveloped in a thick wonderland of fluffy fog. My California is brown and hazy, a mixture of endless heat and rising smoke pressing against the Valley, clogging my nostrils with the sweaty stench of 22 million lunatics, assaulting my ears with the the relentless bullshit of Ryan Seacrest, issuing from the orifice of every car radio in my radius.

Your California presents you with the scope of all ecology. Mine beats down on me with an unforgiving sun, 350 days of the year, and then sprinkles me with a pathetic dose of rainwater for a fickle weekend. You look out the window and see the beautiful sights of the Bay area. I look out my window and spectate as a dozen Alley locos kick the crap out of one of their own. Is he trying to get in or get out? I don't care.

I understand what you're saying, I truly do. I used to live in one of the worst neighborhoods of San Jose, I have family who live on Story Rd... by far, the worst fucking place I've stayed at. I have friends in LA, Compton, Death Valley, Pittsburgh, Fresno, Sacramento...

I've seen the utter despair that California has to offer, I've had shotgun blasts being shot through my families front door. I've been held up walking to a burger king during lunch...

But I've also seen the amazing vistas, the amazing landscapes and the beautiful water fronts.

I've kissed women of every culture and background here. I've done the dirty deeds underneath the stars of California and in the houses of amazing people.

I've hunted in the snow and dry air.

I'll never imagine leaving this golden state.

As dirty and rotten as it can be for some experiences, it'll always stay beautiful and bright no matter what.
 
just one more reason to move to California! no seasons, highest gas tax (not to mention being in the top range for every other sort of taxes), highest gas prices? everything's better here :D

I filled up at $4.02/gal this morning; it was $4.27 when I left work. We'll probably hit $5.00 in my area in another week or two.

Bombadil also deserves a nod because it's important to differentiate between the San Francisco and Los Angeles areas when people start saying "CA sucks" or "wtf CA is great". I live in LA.
 
I don't live in Texas but I have visited. Spread out isn't the word. Forget about PT in Texas.

I've lived in Texas for well over a decade and I find it really strange/sad coming back after visiting relatives at NYC. You go from a predominantly "Walk. Bus. Subway." lifestyle to "OMG THAT GUY IS WALKING. HE'S OBVIOUSLY POOR/A FREAK" in one day.

I really detest the car-centered lifestyle that most US cities (especially in Texas) follow religiously. Lemme take a damn bus without looking like a hobo or god forbid WALK somewhere. Zipping around in cars all day, every day makes me feel like the lardos in Wall-E.
 
You live in San Francisco, so I'm not going to argue with you about the awesomeness of YOUR California. MY California is in SoCal. This is where gridlock traffic is an everyday occurrence, where drivebys are so common we've begun blaming the victims for walking out at night, where the density of the population is so high that people have stopped caring about humanity and self-preservation and simply lean into the lanes of oncoming vehicles to signal their desire to jaywalk.

Your California is a cool blue color, populated with polite artists who have the luxury of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge every day, enveloped in a thick wonderland of fluffy fog. My California is brown and hazy, a mixture of endless heat and rising smoke pressing against the Valley, clogging my nostrils with the sweaty stench of 22 million lunatics, assaulting my ears with the the relentless bullshit of Ryan Seacrest, issuing from the orifice of every car radio in my radius.

Your California presents you with the scope of all ecology. Mine beats down on me with an unforgiving sun, 350 days of the year, and then sprinkles me with a pathetic dose of rainwater for a fickle weekend. You look out the window and see the beautiful sights of the Bay area. I look out my window and spectate as a dozen Alley locos kick the crap out of one of their own. Is he trying to get in or get out? I don't care.

Love this post so much. Yay Area <3
 
You live in San Francisco, so I'm not going to argue with you about the awesomeness of YOUR California. MY California is in SoCal. This is where gridlock traffic is an everyday occurrence, where drivebys are so common we've begun blaming the victims for walking out at night, where the density of the population is so high that people have stopped caring about humanity and self-preservation and simply lean into the lanes of oncoming vehicles to signal their desire to jaywalk.

Your California is a cool blue color, populated with polite artists who have the luxury of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge every day, enveloped in a thick wonderland of fluffy fog. My California is brown and hazy, a mixture of endless heat and rising smoke pressing against the Valley, clogging my nostrils with the sweaty stench of 22 million lunatics, assaulting my ears with the the relentless bullshit of Ryan Seacrest, issuing from the orifice of every car radio in my radius.

Your California presents you with the scope of all ecology. Mine beats down on me with an unforgiving sun, 350 days of the year, and then sprinkles me with a pathetic dose of rainwater for a fickle weekend. You look out the window and see the beautiful sights of the Bay area. I look out my window and spectate as a dozen Alley locos kick the crap out of one of their own. Is he trying to get in or get out? I don't care.

Jesus Christ. Drama queen much? lol. What the hell? SoCal is fabulous. None of what you just wrote is representative of it in any way. Except the traffic, but Bay area has its share of shitty traffic too.

As for gas prices, doesn't really affect me and my wife too much. We live in Lincoln Heights and share one car and both work in downtown. So 2 mile commute on surface streets to work and back. Yeah, marginal costs go up, but its nothing to break our bank at all.
 
"Hey Wenis."

"Yea?"

"So you still don't have your license"

"nah, bro, live in San Francisco and shit, and I couldn't afford those prices if my life depended on it"

"don't you have a job"

"yeah, still doesn't cut it, plus I'd rather spend money on fun stuff."


" cool bro, you're lame.... *vroooooooom speeds off in a gas guzzler*


that's my general interaction with drivers.

so everyone you talk to has a gas guzzler? you live in frikkin frisco and nobody's driving a prius?
 
Those people haven't lived in California...seriously. everything is here.

Snow, desert, ocean, camping, huge shopping centers, endless entertainment, so many varied amounts of people and experiences to have.

I don't know any other state that can offer all of those things year around.

the only thing we can't offer is family. If that isn't a huge issue for you, great, but if it is. That's a decision you need to make. Because it doesn't really have much bearing to me to be honest.

Y'all have too many natural disasters and the high pricing doesn't help. Fires and Landslides, and always the idea of the big one happening. Where I live at in Texas it is hard for any of that to happen, the most we have is floods and they have never effected me.

The luxuries of an area don't really make a decision on where I am going to live.
 
Y'all have too many natural disasters and the high pricing doesn't help. Fires and Landslides, and always the idea of the big one happening. Where I live at in Texas it is hard for any of that to happen, the most we have is floods and they have never effected me.

Texas gets tornadoes.

North America is kind of a death trap no matter where you live.
 
Japan is at about $6.50 per gallon (150 yen per liter).

On base though, we're still sitting at about $3.50 per gallon, or less than 75 yen per liter.

Needless to say I never purchase the Japanese gas.
 
Y'all have too many natural disasters and the high pricing doesn't help. Fires and Landslides, and always the idea of the big one happening. Where I live at in Texas it is hard for any of that to happen, the most we have is floods and they have never effected me.

The luxuries of an area don't really make a decision on where I am going to live.

We get more than floods. Amazingly long droughts, miserable humid heat, wildfires, and the occasional tornado that can easily rip through Texas' flimsy basement-free houses. Apart from this year, we've also lately added abnormal snow/freezing conditions into the mix, which isn't particularly great considering 95% of the people in Texas have very little to no experience in driving in freezing conditions.

(I'm talking mainly central Texas near Houston/Austin/San Antonio area)

You live in San Francisco, so I'm not going to argue with you about the awesomeness of YOUR California. MY California is in SoCal. This is where gridlock traffic is an everyday occurrence, where drivebys are so common we've begun blaming the victims for walking out at night, where the density of the population is so high that people have stopped caring about humanity and self-preservation and simply lean into the lanes of oncoming vehicles to signal their desire to jaywalk.

Your California is a cool blue color, populated with polite artists who have the luxury of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge every day, enveloped in a thick wonderland of fluffy fog. My California is brown and hazy, a mixture of endless heat and rising smoke pressing against the Valley, clogging my nostrils with the sweaty stench of 22 million lunatics, assaulting my ears with the the relentless bullshit of Ryan Seacrest, issuing from the orifice of every car radio in my radius.

Your California presents you with the scope of all ecology. Mine beats down on me with an unforgiving sun, 350 days of the year, and then sprinkles me with a pathetic dose of rainwater for a fickle weekend. You look out the window and see the beautiful sights of the Bay area. I look out my window and spectate as a dozen Alley locos kick the crap out of one of their own. Is he trying to get in or get out? I don't care.

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Don't have much experience with SoCal but damn that was poetic.
 
Peak Oil kooks (Hi, Triumph!) told me we were supposed to have riots in the streets when gas hit 5.00? What a drag.



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This reminds me of that CNN documentary "We were warned"

They claimed in a scenario that a hurricane will hit Houston and destroy the refineries(Cause the companies here didn't think about making them hurricane proof)

Then all of the sudden Al-Queda who has planning for a such a moment(Apparently Al-Queada will plan for hypothetical hurricane strong enough to destroy the refineries)

will hijack a plane from Tehran(Yep anti-Iran propaganda is that old folks after all a Shite Iran loves an extremist Sunni group in their mix)

and crash it into the Khawar super oil field causing an uncontrollable fire(Apparently Saudia Arabia couldn't figure that out and shoot the plane down before anything happens).

Also they were promoting natural gas as an alternative because we will end our reliance in the Middle East(Of course no mentioned that Arab countries have loads of natural gas and that natural gas is less efficient than gasoline).
 
so everyone you talk to has a gas guzzler? you live in frikkin frisco and nobody's driving a prius?

my roommates had prius's, but they traded em in for Volkswagons...one a deisel the other regular. Not sure if that means anything, but that's my anecdotal evidence.

Y'all have too many natural disasters and the high pricing doesn't help. Fires and Landslides, and always the idea of the big one happening. Where I live at in Texas it is hard for any of that to happen, the most we have is floods and they have never effected me.

The luxuries of an area don't really make a decision on where I am going to live.

haven't had a natural disaster here in awhile.... besides that one rock slide that smooshed a car with no victims....

so you know...whatever meng. I've also met a lot of folks from Texas here...take from that what you will.
 
Was talking to my dad who lives in Wyoming... he said gas is $2.89 there or so... ;-;

Time to move back out west.
 
No offense to Cal but in Houston you have to drive 20 miles to work or do anything. The city is so spread out its ridiculous. Despite all this, Houston has terrible public transportation and just finally started using trains.
 
Cool! Hoping this makes people jump on hybrids and electric vehicles. Many people at my company already made the switch! One dude even has a Tesla Roadster!

Funny, I just went through this. I just started a new job that is 50 miles from home. My old job was only 10 miles away. So I started shopping for a hybrid or EV. I really wanted an EV. The Leaf is pretty nice and though not a conventional EV, so is the Volt. The problem is that a 100 mile round trip commute is not doable for most EVs.

So I ended up looking at diesels, hybrids, and fuel efficient gasoline cars. I was most of the way sold on a diesel until I did the math. More expensive, higher payment, diesel costs more per gallon and is not as widely available. Hybrids (at least the Prius) aren't the greatest on the highway in terms of mileage. So I ended up getting a car with an efficient conventional engine that was still fun to drive.

I am really annoyed by the lack of good diesels in the USA. I look at what's offered in Europe and I shake my head because so many of those cars would be perfect for America, where there are long stretches of open road. I don't understand why diesels are so frowned upon here.
 
Guess I'll ask this here, but when it comes to monetary efficiency what exactly is the point of a hybrid or electric vehicle? I'm sitting here looking at a standard honda civic that gets 39 highway mpg (according to their site) and starts at around 15k. The Hybrid gets up to 44 highway mpg but starts at 24k. The prius is 51/48, but starts at 22k/24k as well. Chevy Volt is electric with a gas tank but starts at 31k! Granted, you do get a tax rebate for electric vehicles (no more on hybrids) so you're looking at a tag that's 5-7.5k cheaper. So am I really getting more bang for my buck(with regards to mileage) when buying a hybrid/electric if I'm having to shell out 7k+ more? 7k that could be used towards gas? I just don't see it.
 
I just don't get the obsession with gas prices as a metric for the health of the country. How much are people driving that a $1 or even $2 swing is a big deal?

/takes public transportation everywhere.
It has nothing to do with regular gas. The price of deisel fuel drives (literally) our economy. Every commercial vehicle, car truck train ect, runs on deisel

I thinks its funny how everyones say "ride a bus" or public transportation when personal cars and gas prices have very little take in the economy.
 
You live in San Francisco, so I'm not going to argue with you about the awesomeness of YOUR California. MY California is in SoCal. This is where gridlock traffic is an everyday occurrence, where drivebys are so common we've begun blaming the victims for walking out at night, where the density of the population is so high that people have stopped caring about humanity and self-preservation and simply lean into the lanes of oncoming vehicles to signal their desire to jaywalk.

Your California is a cool blue color, populated with polite artists who have the luxury of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge every day, enveloped in a thick wonderland of fluffy fog. My California is brown and hazy, a mixture of endless heat and rising smoke pressing against the Valley, clogging my nostrils with the sweaty stench of 22 million lunatics, assaulting my ears with the the relentless bullshit of Ryan Seacrest, issuing from the orifice of every car radio in my radius.

Your California presents you with the scope of all ecology. Mine beats down on me with an unforgiving sun, 350 days of the year, and then sprinkles me with a pathetic dose of rainwater for a fickle weekend. You look out the window and see the beautiful sights of the Bay area. I look out my window and spectate as a dozen Alley locos kick the crap out of one of their own. Is he trying to get in or get out? I don't care.
I'm a Northern Californian, so naturally I appreciated this . . . but it is not THAT bad down there. I've spent some time down south. I think I'll stick up here but I'd rather live in LA than move back to Minnesota. (Love Minnesotans but it is too damn cold there.)
 
You live in San Francisco, so I'm not going to argue with you about the awesomeness of YOUR California. MY California is in SoCal. This is where gridlock traffic is an everyday occurrence, where drivebys are so common we've begun blaming the victims for walking out at night, where the density of the population is so high that people have stopped caring about humanity and self-preservation and simply lean into the lanes of oncoming vehicles to signal their desire to jaywalk.

Your California is a cool blue color, populated with polite artists who have the luxury of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge every day, enveloped in a thick wonderland of fluffy fog. My California is brown and hazy, a mixture of endless heat and rising smoke pressing against the Valley, clogging my nostrils with the sweaty stench of 22 million lunatics, assaulting my ears with the the relentless bullshit of Ryan Seacrest, issuing from the orifice of every car radio in my radius.

Your California presents you with the scope of all ecology. Mine beats down on me with an unforgiving sun, 350 days of the year, and then sprinkles me with a pathetic dose of rainwater for a fickle weekend. You look out the window and see the beautiful sights of the Bay area. I look out my window and spectate as a dozen Alley locos kick the crap out of one of their own. Is he trying to get in or get out? I don't care.

You do realize that Oakland and Richmond are really close to San Francisco right?

Anyway, I live in Atascadero, in the central coast of California, and it's damn beautiful here. The biggest crimes committed here are probably jaywalking. It's just so peaceful.
 
how much is a barrel of oil right now?
$108.5 for WTI and $123 for Brent.

It has been a big jump this week for WTI due to Iran. And California is getting extra hit because there was a fuel supply drop in California:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...rises-after-california-fuel-supply-drops.html
and a refinery fire up in Washington:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57383630/bp-refinery-fire-could-boost-gas-prices-in-wash/


Hopefully some of this will blow over in a few weeks or months. But the long term trend remains a slow march upward.
 
Why not get a Prius that does 50mph and won't kill you in the rain?

Electric cars are off to a great start. They are expensive and limited range but not bad for their first year in real production.

Infrastructure is a non-issue. A Chevy Volt can do fine with a standard 120V plug. A pure EV just needs a 240V charger system.

You way-off on your assessment of the grid. The grid has enough power to drive 70 million w/o single new plant . . . as long as you charge at night . . . which is when people charge. Your local power company would LOVE IT if you got an EV since it gets them more customers who draw power at night when they have massive amounts of excess capacity.

Smaller & lighter is key . . . but it is great for both gas cars and EVs. EVs need it more because it helps give better range and reduces battery size (= cost).
First of all, I have ridden my motorcycle in the rainstorms and in freezing temperatures and for the most part, it was business as usual.

Second, The Prius is a great car for what it is. A cheap, reliable, economical car, and I recommend it to anyone that is worried about gas prices. Hell, even the Prius V will be useful to those people who want a bit more cargo space. I wouldn't buy it because I am an enthusiast who thinks that the way the car feels is very important.

The Chevy Volt has compromise written all over it. It wants to be a Prius competitor but that price-point is way too high for most consumers, even with the added tax breaks and bonuses thrown in. Am I glad the car exists? Yes, because that will bring about refinements and new tech into cars. That doesn't negate the fact that it is a terrible car.

On the infrastructure issue, cars are going to be plugged in at all times. So yes, the load will matter. After I make my commute to work, of course I would like to plug in the car and be ready for the commute home. Same with having the car at home. I guess it depends on where you live but here in LA, especially during the summer, the grid can be bogged down considerably with AC use alone.

Look, the time will come when electric cars will have to be the solution. But it isn't now and it isn't going to be for a while. Making cars lighter, more efficient, pushing those vehicles with low gas mileage to be more efficient is the what car manufacturers can do today without breaking the bank. And I mean that literally, Fisker and Tesla would not be in business today without huge govt. loans and handouts. The way to go, I think is to license that teach to a big auto manufacturer instead of going on your own.
 
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