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Call of Duty and Loyalty.

Indeed. Seeing the hate and pure vitriol the CoD games get is hilarious.

Personally I don't get it. So many popular franchises are guilty of the exact same things CoD is blamed for.

It seems to me gamers are perfectly fine with playing the same game over and over again will little to no innovation if it's a series they enjoy. I guess because CoD is a fps and published by Activision it's easier for some to hate.
 
No learning curve? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This. My son plays all the COD games, and i rarely will play some multiplayer, but when i do, im destroyed left and right.

Watching my son play MW3 who knows the level layouts like the back of his hand, and seeing him completely destroy people left and right with ease shows me that unless you learn the levels and get somewhat good, the good players will eat you alive. No learning curve, my ass...
 
This. My son plays all the COD games, and i rarely will play some multiplayer, but when i do, im destroyed left and right.

Watching my son play MW3 who knows the level layouts like the back of his hand, and seeing him completely destroy people left and right with ease shows me that unless you learn the levels and get somewhat good, the good players will eat you alive. No learning curve, my ass...

Well then your son probably should try something like Unreal Tournament 99' or Quake or Couter Strike.

Those are competetive games with learning curve. With no skill you will be blown away always.

No. Random. Kills.
 
Well then your son probably should try something like Unreal Tournament 99' or Quake or Couter Strike.

Those are competetive games with learning curve. With no skill you will be blown away always.

No. Random. Kills.

Of course there is a learning curve. With no skill you'll get blown away in CoD too. In certain modes there is no competitive difference to any of those games and CoD.

The snide asides and falsities that get piled on CoD have long passed parody.
 
Well then your son probably should try something like Unreal Tournament 99' or Quake or Couter Strike.

Those are competetive games with learning curve. With no skill you will be blown away always.

No. Random. Kills.

Are you joking? Random kills? You are either A) really bad at COD, or B) dont know how to play... I never get killed randomly ever. COD if you are good takes skill, it is not some "oh look I can press a button and win", NO, you cant, and wont either. There is skill involved in COD whether you want to admit or not.

Of course there is a learning curve. With no skill you'll get blown away in CoD too. In certain modes there is no competitive difference to any of those games and CoD.

The snide asides and falsities that get piled on CoD have long passed parody.

Agree completely, it makes me think most of these people are on the bandwagon of hating COD is cool, these people have no clue what they are talking about most of the time. I admit COD has problems, but if you say it "doesn't take skill" you lose all credit even talking about the game.
 
Edit: They also have AT&T as #1 for wireless. Wow.
Funnily enough, its "loyal" consumerbase is probably staying with them for the same reason that CoD players stay - so many people use AT&T (especially landlines) and having calls made to other AT&T customers not count againat your minutes goes a long way.
 
Some people are so defensive if someone trashes their favourite game...

There is a deference from just trashing, to claiming something that is outright false. I dont mind if people hate the game, my best friend hates it, and rags on me for playing it all the time. But when you spread false information, then you deserve to be argued against.
 
Some people are so defensive if someone trashes their favourite game...

I guess when you have some people in the thread trying so hard to stress a point that either doesn't exist or is overblown to the point of parody, you get a defensive reaction. I mean, look at this guy:

Because it's super dumbed down and has a stupid carrot-on-a-stick reward system.

Wow. 'Modern' Call of Duty isn't even close to the best 'competitive' (I would hardly call the game competitive) military shooter.

Are you serious? There are tons of dumb unlocks ranging from actual weapons and perks (the number of which makes things impossible to balance) to making your guns golden, and finally to erasing everything so you can start over with a cool emblem next to your name? You should play some more competitive shooters before you ask how CoD is more dumbed down.

This guy is practically doing naked cartwheels trying to come up with a reason to hate Call of Duty.
 
I'm coming up with reasons why people like Call of Duty, not why to hate it ;).

Much like how telling someone they enjoy Transformers because it was made for dumb people is not a compliment, thinly veiling your personal preferences should not lead you to question why people respond defensively.

Especially with the partisan-politics level of criticism being lobbed on to the franchise.
 
I can always trust CoD to bring a rewarding experience.
I'm used to playing the 5 hour campaign at that time of the year, ever since CoD 4. There is always something that makes it worth.
I'll keep buying it as long as the series keeps delivering (not at their full retail price, of course).
A couple of my friends also play it, I've spent around 100h online on MW3, 50 on BO and 300~ on MW2... So far I think I've gotten enough value just out of the brainless MP with friends.

I'm not even going into wether it deserves its sales or not, so don't try to push my argument down that road please.
 
Much like how telling someone they enjoy Transformers because it was made for dumb people is not a compliment, thinly veiling your personal preferences should not lead you to question why people respond defensively.

Especially with the partisan-politics level of criticism being lobbed on to the franchise.
Liking simplified things isn't necessarily bad, just like some people prefer to play games on easy mode. I prefer ME2 to ME1 even though the former is dumbed down. I guess some people are too insecure too admit they something that is dumbed down.
 
I've played all of them except for..I think it was called Big Red One or something like that?

Whatever, I've played the franchise forever.

Modern Warfare was meh for me, I loved the shit out of 2 for some reason, even though it was janky as all get out.

3 though, I bought just like everyone else, and I played it for 3 weeks or so but...the magic was gone. It was back to 'meh' for me. Its not a quality issue because it moves nice and fluidly and the hit detection...oh wait, LOL, that's right, never mind about hit detection.

The point is..it wasn't a quality issue that killed it or some sort of fatal flaw with the game, I just drifted back away from playing the series completely. I just can't be bothered.
 
Well it's pretty obvious that it CAN be a problem to those who know and like video games no? If you play for a long time and know the evolution of the genre you're in front of the success of game which does everything worse than what other games have done before. And to add to the irony, it "sets the bar" for future games. It's like regression to me.

Well, CoD is probably the most accomplished game of its type. I'm not sure your accusations of regression are actually justified. No game has been made that approaches the heights CoD has with respects to bombast, responsiveness, or playability within its sub-genre. That's an evolution of the genre, whether you like it or not.
 
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