I personally started a successful stick up career that lasted several years thanks to this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2tIMEJZo8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2tIMEJZo8w
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Call to ban 'burgle Chinese homes' rap
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I have officially grown too old because I am looking at this video and just shaking my head.
lightskintwin
Banned
It's satire. Did you watch it to the very end?
PatThePassive
Member
I recently heard a song were the rapper identified as a baby killer and cannibal, going into how to kill babies and prepare meals with them. (not babies as in women he rapped about snatching them from the crib or moms hands)
Is this a genera I was never aware of? Is there a gore rap scene?
Is this a genera I was never aware of? Is there a gore rap scene?
It's a song which incites targeting another minority. It's not really cool at all.
Banning music wasn't a good idea in the past, isn't good now.
There are plenty of ways to promote awareness if something is problematic.
People will listen to the song whether you ban it or not.
People will learn to commit crime without requiring a song as a personal aide to do so.
There are plenty of ways to promote awareness if something is problematic.
People will listen to the song whether you ban it or not.
People will learn to commit crime without requiring a song as a personal aide to do so.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
You might as well ban massive swades of rap music. Since robbery and murder aren't the only things common found in such songs, might as well ban some rock music too just to be safe. It's a awful subject matter but banning it isn't the answer won't change much of anything other than, inciting other songs to be banned. Plus this entire incident is poster child of the Streisand effect, they were better off not kicking up a fuss at all, the added aware is probably going to more people to listen to it not less.
lightskintwin
Banned
Quit using incite. It doesn't incite anybody unless you believe a song is going to make somebody start robbing and then specifically pick out a Chinese home regardless of where they live.
That's not to say it shouldn't be criticized, it's just this song was merely an album track for a rapper who doesn't enjoy mainstream success, and this outrage is only bringing attention to the song itself and giving free promotion to YG.
ThisGuy
Member
Is there proof that music doesn't influence people negatively? I remember when eminem came out. Lotta appropriation that day.
Not calling for a ban, but when people say music doesnt effect people, I can't help but wonder if thats really true.
shadow_shogun
Member
Exactly, that's the most upsetting aspect of the song. I may not be Asian but I can understand them being upset. I wouldn't want the a song relaying this type of message towards my community.
I mean, I learned how to kill my wife Kim from Eminem.
Hoes need abortions ;_;
lightskintwin
Banned
There's a difference between whether music affects you and whether it actually makes you commit a crime. Of course music like any other media affects and influences you.
afternoon delight
Member
We're all future criminals now
Thanks, now we're all aiding and abetting.
I hope the local authorities aren't casing this as we type!!!1
ThisGuy
Member
RIght, I get that 'entertainment media' (since this is really a broad subject, not just a style of music) doesn't hypnotize people into making them commit crime. I want to say I know it comes down to the individual person and that it's not the medium. But I can't help but wonder if those influences over time can cause a negative change in a person. For instance, right wing radio. I think we would agree that has negatively influenced people. So what do you do, hold it all up to individual responsibility, or shift some of the blame to the medium as well?
Or do you have a different perspective altogether?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
This is literally the video game argument. has playing video games turned you into a mass murderer? It probably has some level of influence but it's largely small and on fringe cases, the type of people that were going to commit some sort of crime of this nature anyway. The song should be shunned but really the best approach would have ben to ignore it completely,
I did and I though it might be the case, that said.... not sure.
I didn't say it should be banned. Also, I'm pretty sure the song is used in the context of when Asian immigrants are living close to African Americans in a poor district. Which happens, which is a thing I went through in my youth. in which I was held up at gunpoint for and physically beat up in. So I can also safely say that sometimes these groups don't get along well. And to say tensions don't exist? That's just being ignorant. It's not about the robbing . It's about creating a divide in these communities
ThisGuy
Member
RIght, it is the same argument. So you say leave it up to public scrutiny, which is what the song is receiving in this thread.
uncelestial
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There's actually no such thing as "banning a song" in this country, other than not playing it on public airwaves (which they weren't), soooo good luck with that.
Terrible song, deserves the hate. Maybe since it's obscure to begin with, they shouldn't publicize its existence?
Can't imagine any President of the United States "banning a song;" that's just a ridiculous concept.
Terrible song, deserves the hate. Maybe since it's obscure to begin with, they shouldn't publicize its existence?
Can't imagine any President of the United States "banning a song;" that's just a ridiculous concept.
lightskintwin
Banned
Quit using anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias to make this song more than what it is. It was literally underground and unknown to most audiences until this attention was brought to it.
andythinkpad
Member
I don't see what's the problem here. You need to call out the racism within the other minority groups too.
The fact that the song is 2 years old is not a defense of anything.
The fact that the song is 2 years old is not a defense of anything.
The Faceless Master
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right. we should ban religion.
shadow_shogun
Member
I don't think this is same as the "all violent video games are dangerous" argument. This song falls along the lines of video games like "Hatred"or video games that demean/target a group of people.
uncelestial
Member
I hated it when The Sopranos incited me to be a mobster. That was hard to take for 6 seasons!
Look, it's a terrible song, but the fact is, all but the absolute worst of us can handle being exposed to stuff like this without it literally turning us to a life of crime.
Twenty7KVN
Member
Lol good luck with that one.
QuantumBro
Banned
I don't think anyone's defending the song by saying it's two years old, we're just all confused how this two year old and relatively unknown song got this outrage in the first place.
I'd say most people in this thread did not know about the song's existence till today, which means this is a pretty pointless protest.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Ban rap!
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Even if this song could instruct you into how to break into a home, you'd probably be listening/downloading it through the internet. Which probably has much more detailed instructions on how to break into a house somewhere.
shadow_shogun
Member
No one is calling to ban rap, that like saying ban all country songs because one particular country song instructs one on how to tie a noose to use in a lynch. A lot of us black folk would be upset at the one song not the entire genre.
Mammoth Jones
Member
This. Shit offends me every day ain't nobody gonna ban it for my ass.
cyborgnumberblue
Member
It isn't creating a divide, it's commenting on an existing divide.
What I find creepy about the song is not that it outlines how to break into a place, but it advocates targeting a certain group. The song might not make people want to go out and rob people, but people who are planning to rob someone may hear the song which tells them that Chinese households are more lucrative targets. This is information that they may not have already had.
It's like basically saying, "Heads up, if you're thinking of robbing someone, choose a Chinese person because they keep more valuables at their place."
Like what if there was a song that was, "Heads up, if you're planning to make a bomb, get your supplies from these places so you can't be traced."
Or "Heads up, if you're planning a date rape, here's some tips on slipping her the drugs."
lightskintwin
Banned
This
Also I'd argue within the context of the song it's technically not racist, it's definitely racial. He's not specifically robbing the Chinese because they're Chinese or that he hates them, he's robbing them because in his experiences they use bank accounts less and keep more cash on hand in their homes which is the whole point of the song, robbing homes in the most efficient way to get the most money possible . It's monetary motivated and he was specific with his targets due to that motivation. However outside of that technicality, I have no issue calling it racism.
Like I said that doesn't mean it shouldn't be criticized and called out due to it targeting a specific group, it should, but the biggest problem is the song was unknown and the rapper is not a mainstream star tied to any corporate entity outside of his label so instead of hurting him with a protest, it's only going to help him and his song become more known, gain some more fans along the way, and raise his profile as a "controversial" hip hop artist.
It'd be different if he was some pop star with a squeaky clean image or a big hip hop star with corporate endorsements. Protests in that regard would've definitely worked.
What are you on? These things exist. And dude. Have the shit on the here is unknown before you read it.
Ninja Scooter
Member
The best way to do that is to give tons of free publicity to a 2 year old song that nobody had really ever heard of before.
Mammoth Jones
Member
We really gonna expect to the government to ban rap songs that are offensive? It's not happening.
Exactly. I never heard of this shit before the Streisand effect took hold of it.
I never said the song should be banned lol
Ninja Scooter
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He's playing off the stereotype that Chinese people (among other minorities, and old people) don't trust banks and keep their money at home, and probably a little on the whole "blacks and asians in the hood don't get along" thing. It's not that deep. I definitely don't get the vibe that the message of the song is "I hate Chinese people and we should all commit violence against them". It was a failed attempt at a clever gangsta rap song. I mean, if you guys are freaking out about this song, I can't imagine what you will do if you ever hear "Black Korea" or "Cave Bitch".
BennyBlanco
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It's so weird to me that the rap song that officially went too far and caused massive blowback was that Rick Ross song with a line about slipping a girl a mickey.
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