I've been shitting on Xbox for months
Read the thread, hell the OP itself. webelieveingenerations
(you) do as you posted here.
I'm sorry but I'd much have horizon 2 launch now and get a horizon 3 in 3/4 years time when the ps5 pro launches. Why would I wish for just 1 game instead of 2 in that time.Nobody forced the morons at sony to have horizon as a launch title or launch window title...
You gave more time to devs and wait until 2022 or 2023 whem you have 20 to 30 ps5 installed.
But no, better make the game a fucking crossgen even if your already have a shitload of good games on year 1...
A guy with the name of Share Holders.I could understand why Spider-Man was cross-gen but who made the decision for Horizon to be cross-gen as well? Guerilla Games are graphical powerhouses in the industry and a perfect fit to showcase your next gen system.
Legit curious who makes those decisions. Was it yoshida or layden?
Would you rather a ps4 situation where these games launch this year as PS4 exclusives instead? This is just Sony making games ps5 compatible that were falling into the ps4 gen instead. I'm ok with it but I hope GOW and the games after except for MLB don't support the ps4.
It is now that Sony is doing it.Edit: They aren't forcing games cross gen either...that is a pretty dumb narrative.
I can't be angry that more people are going to be able to play a game. However I can be mildly annoyed that this now confirms these games will not be designed to take advantage of the new hardware from a game design perspective, so it will just be prettier graphics (which are always welcome). I was hoping that Miles would get powers that allow him to fly through Manhatten at lightening speed, or that he would be transitioning through the multiverse at blistering pace, but no
You weren't lied to. Ryan never said what people are claiming he said. He said games "should" be built to "make the most" of the "benefits and features" of the PS5. He didn't say that all first-party games will be exclusive to PS5 and not appear on PS4. In fact, to do that would be an incredibly stupid business decision. I'm glad you guys aren't in charge of Sony, or they'd be bankrupt.
It's all based on a misinterpretation or over-read of what Ryan said. I am well aware that my saying that will do absolutely nothing to derail the narrative that Sony "lied." Neutral analysis doesn't hold a candle to anger and outrage on the internet.
You weren't lied to. Ryan never said what people are claiming he said. He said games "should" be built to "make the most" of the "benefits and features" of the PS5. He didn't say that all first-party games will be exclusive to PS5 and not appear on PS4. In fact, to do that would be an incredibly stupid business decision. I'm glad you guys aren't in charge of Sony, or they'd be bankrupt.
It's all based on a misinterpretation or over-read of what Ryan said. I am well aware that my saying that will do absolutely nothing to derail the narrative that Sony "lied." Neutral analysis doesn't hold a candle to anger and outrage on the internet.
That is the issue not being honest about those games being cross generation. If they were upfront and honest most would have zero issues with it and ww3 would of not happened online over cross generation games. They played up the whole ps5 only experiences getting great press and Microsoft get destroyed online and in the media. All while while trotting out 2 cross generation games. This was the most under handed marketing since the 75 million polygons per second crap and astroturfing sadam Hussein looking to buy PS2s to power his missiles to end Sega.I understand being upset about Horizon and Spider-Man being represented as just PS5 but we already have more PS5 only games than Xbox Series X has Series X only games.
I'm willing to bet Ratchet and GT7 are only on PS5.
At least Killzone was a real next gen title and so were many third party games available at launch.
Infamous Second Son, one of the most beautiful games this generation and solid ow action, released only few months later.
This time even NBA 2K looks exactly the same as before and it's a mtx shitfest.
I would be literally buying PS5 to play Cyberpunk 2077 but because I have both Xbox One X and PS4 Pro the benefits minimal.
So I am not buying next gen consoles for a while.
Read the thread, hell the OP itself. webelieveingenerations
(you) do as you posted here.
You're calling on playstation lovers...
But that's not how love works.
Love isn't perfect.
Love forces you to care through thick and thin.
Love is a fire that burns forever
Company spokesman lied, you are saying he didn't and that's just about it. Everything else doesn't matter. Simple as, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.I did read the op. My point sill stands. Who gives a shit? Oh no, w few cross gen games like what has happened for generations before the prior generation is packed away. How does this affect anything. How does this prove Sony lied about having supporting the idea of generations?
I like this dude. Not afraid to take a massive dump on the so called competitionDear fellow Playstation lovers,
Just like you, I've been enjoying the last few months shitting on Xbox for their cross-gen antics. I've been relishing the opportunity to throw yesterday's PS5 showcase in the face of Xbox fans as a 'AHA TAKE THAT BITCHES' moment but after that we find out that at the very least, Horizon Forbidden West and the Miles Morales game are coming to PS4 as well as PS5.
I'm stoked as much as you are for PS5 but come on. Although they didn't necessarily say those games would be PS5 exclusive, the messaging very strongly hinted at it and for them to now mention, almost in passing as if they don't want to draw attention to it, that two of the key first party titles aren't actually next-gen exclusive.................. it's just a bit of a slap in the face.
Do you not hate being lied to? I know I do. Sure it's not lying if they never technically said those games wouldn't come to PS4, but it's effectively the same thing. They've been riding the wave of hate towards Xbox and it turns out what they're doing isn't really much different. If we try to hide behind the fine print then we're doing what the 'other side' did.
So, again, calling all fellow Pureisuteishon lovers, let's call it out because if we don't do it then we're just as bad as the Xbots who blindly support the likes of Aaron Greenscreen and Phil Spritzer.
note: If you think I'm posing as Playstation lover to whip up a frenzy, check my post history - I've been shitting on Xbox for months
Not weird they played the fans and media knowing they can get away with it to build hype. The media depends on fan clicks and the fans are dependent on their games lol. Perfect for them they can lie let them spread it and say btw fine print suckers and no consequences.It’s no big deal. Weird that they straight up lied about it though.
I’m guessing because Sony themselves said “We believe in generations”, and that people ridiculed Halo Infinite, then BAM! Mikes Morales and HFW are both coming to PS4. I suspect many of Sony’s first party titles will.Why is it such an issue??
do I have to make a list of cherished ps4 games that thrive on the bolded?- Ryse: Son of Rome - tentpole-style visual beauty... let down by quick time event bollocks
If you keep telling yourself this, you might even start to believe it!
I think it's a really stupid complaint. Game companies make games to sell them, and it would make no sense to deprive themselves of 113 Millions of potential buyers who own a PS4 to sell a new title to only 2-4 Million of early PS5 adopters. They're not releasing a new game to lose money, and selling 4 million copies of Spider Man : Miles Morales would be a flop, even if every single PS5 early adopters would buy it , it would be a flop...
As for the "we believe in generations" saying.. It's also kinda dumb to assume these game's visions were compromised because of this. There's always a lead platform so to speak when making games, and obviously the dev teams made the new games with PS5 hardware in mind, then downported it / found solutions so it could run on pS4, which probably wasn't that much work considering how Spiderman 1 looked and player great on PS4 hardware.
It's like saying a game isn't reaching full potential because it has a Switch port that looks really bad and runs at 20 FPS... Or that a cutting edge PC game is made less impressive because it has graphics settings to make it possible to run it on a potato PC... Not true... Said port / low graphical settings was probably handled by a totally different part of the team whose sole job was to optimize and downgrade everything so it could run on said hardware, and the overall design was not compromised so the inferior port could be achieved...
So yeah, you can still believe in gap in generations and offer cross-gen games...
I’m guessing because Sony themselves said “We believe in generations”, and that people ridiculed Halo Infinite, then BAM! Mikes Morales and HFW are both coming to PS4. I suspect many of Sony’s first party titles will.
Cant wait until they announce GoW: Ragnarok is also on PS4
I’m guessing because Sony themselves said “We believe in generations”, and that people ridiculed Halo Infinite, then BAM! Mikes Morales and HFW are both coming to PS4. I suspect many of Sony’s first party titles will.
Cant wait until they announce GoW: Ragnarok is also on PS4
It is more than that.I’m guessing because Sony themselves said “We believe in generations”, and that people ridiculed Halo Infinite, then BAM! Mikes Morales and HFW are both coming to PS4. I suspect many of Sony’s first party titles will.
Cant wait until they announce GoW: Ragnarok is also on PS4
'No One Should Be Disappointed at PS5 Exclusives Also Launching on PS4', Says Sony
PlayStation boss Jim Ryan said no one should be disappointed at the news that some PS5 exclusives are actually also launching on PS4.wccftech.com
If you think “we believe in generations” means “ we will no longer support new PS4 games after PS5 launch” you may have autism.
That is the issue not being honest about those games being cross generation. If they were upfront and honest most would have zero issues with it and ww3 would of not happened online over cross generation games. They played up the whole ps5 only experiences getting great press and Microsoft get destroyed online and in the media. All while while trotting out 2 cross generation games. This was the most under handed marketing since the 75 million polygons per second crap and astroturfing sadam Hussein looking to buy PS2s to power his missiles to end Sega.
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No one is surprised by your take. PS5 has some cross gen games as well as strictly ps5 games so what was said was truth. Just another fud, sensationalist narrative to cause discussion and others fir clicks on websites. Ps4/3 we had cross gen games for up to two years and a few sole ps5 games this gen is no different. People acting like they didn't know this would be the case is funny and not how history has shown. It becomes an issue when allllll your games are cross Gen. I don't think Godfall is, Demon Souls remake, GoW 2 we don't know, Ratchet hasn't been said to be cross gen, etc
I agree that this messaging is misleading...
While I'm baffled that H:FW is going to be cross gen. Spider-Man and Sackboy make total sense as launch titles. How many kids would be bummed out this holiday just because they're parents couldn't get them the PS5.
Sony does both thts the beauty, they always have. It becomes a problem when you solely focus on cross gen.Supporting PS4 games to work on a PS5 is a good thing. Making games that should take full advantage of new hardware (PS5) to work on an aged PS4 is backtracking and wasted potential.
That is the issue not being honest about those games being cross generation. If they were upfront and honest most would have zero issues with it and ww3 would of not happened online over cross generation games. They played up the whole ps5 only experiences getting great press and Microsoft get destroyed online and in the media. All while while trotting out 2 cross generation games. This was the most under handed marketing since the 75 million polygons per second crap and astroturfing sadam Hussein looking to buy PS2s to power his missiles to end Sega.
Oh yeah, i'm happy that they are rushing and porting on ps4 the sequel of my gotg just to have a chance of getting a third game...I'm sorry but I'd much have horizon 2 launch now and get a horizon 3 in 3/4 years time when the ps5 pro launches. Why would I wish for just 1 game instead of 2 in that time.