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Calling Gaf Designers: Design my logo.

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I just made this for fun:

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ianp622 said:
If some teenager can outdo the work of a professionally paid designer, isn't that saying something about the designer?
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You are really ignorant towards the issue, arn't you? The teenager doesn't outdo him quality wise, he outdos him financialy and that is only because he still lives at home and gets everything paid by his parents, doesn't pays for the software he uses, doesnt pay taxes etc.
Hell, it's not even legal most of the times. There is no common ground where the both can compete fairly.

But the teenager alone isn't to blame. It's also the fault of the cheap ass companys who save money on the wrong end or simply can't tell the difference between quality work or something else.



My 2 cents to the designs that i see here:

You guys are way too obsessed with the letters. It's a construction company and not some generic insurance company. A good logo should reflect what the company is all about. Not to mention the 90's vibes that i get from all of them.
 
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Some advice: Put lots of thought into a logo. A logo must be coherent with the way you want to present your business, your company and yourself. In other words, it must reflect you. Once you decide for a logo you'll have to stick with it for a very long time. Changing it means not only getting rid of all old stationery but changing the way customers remember you. My opinion is that no one in this thread can get into a logo what you and your company are, or aim to be unless you put some serious time and effort into communicating those things to the designer.
 
ianp622 said:
If some teenager can outdo the work of a professionally paid designer, isn't that saying something about the designer? I'm not belittling professional designers, I'm saying I would think that professional designers would be catering to a different client base than the "make me a cheap logo and I'll give you some money".
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One teenager out-doing one professional designer is hardly the basis to judge an entire industry on. Yes, it says something about that one particular designer, but generally you'll get a better product going through multiple revisions with a single designer than you will soliciting a single revision from thousands of amateurs.
 
Steppenwolf said:
You are really ignorant towards the issue, arn't you? The teenager doesn't outdo him quality wise, he outdos him financialy and that is only because he still lives at home and gets everything paid by his parents, doesn't pays for the software he uses, doesnt pay taxes etc.
Hell, it's not even legal most of the times. There is no common ground where the both can compete fairly.

But the teenager alone isn't to blame. It's also the fault of the cheap ass companys who save money on the wrong end or simply can't tell the difference between quality work or something else.
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I am rather ignorant about the graphic design business, I'm going by how business is done in other creative fields.

I still don't understand how someone in a particular field can say, "People who make shitty versions of what I make are taking away my customers."

Should movie directors complain about Youtube?
Should game developers complain about flash games?
Should writers complain about fan fiction?
Should artists complain about student artist commissions?
Should programmers complain about open-source code?

And then you're saying that in essence, teenagers are "subsidized" by their parents, and therefore can charge less for their shitty work. I still don't understand how this is taking away from your business. A serious business will hire a graphic designer for much more than a logo. How many teenagers are going to choose a color palette that can be reproduced for both web designs and print designs and provide multiple versions of a logo to be made for business cards, splash screens, logos, banners, and signs? And if the same graphic designer isn't doing the web page, he or she is going to make sure the web designer stays within the guidelines set forth by the original design.

Right now, all Dizzan has is a logo. Now he actually needs a webpage. But he'll have to know how to make a webpage, or hire someone else to make that webpage. And how do you know the web designer will like the logo that Dizzan got here? He might refuse to work with it, and then Dizzan's out $20. Besides, I haven't even given Dizzan the font or colors that I used (and I even edited the kerning and width of the font), and so it will be difficult to make the webpage without that information.

Complaining about the businesses that will accept cheap logos is a little more reasonable, but if they don't want to pay for a good logo, why do you have to get so upset about it? You get what you pay for.

gblues said:
One teenager out-doing one professional designer is hardly the basis to judge an entire industry on. Yes, it says something about that one particular designer, but generally you'll get a better product going through multiple revisions with a single designer than you will soliciting a single revision from thousands of amateurs.
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I agree, and that's why I'm saying teenager graphic design should not be viewed as a threat. It doesn't take away serious potential customers.
 
ianp622 said:
And how do you know the web designer will like the logo that Dizzan got here? He might refuse to work with it, and then Dizzan's out $20.
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:lol

Must be hard for companies like Coca-Cola, Ford or Mercedes to find a suitable web designer, huh ? Their logos have been around longer than any of their employees.
 
ianp622 said:
Complaining about the businesses that will accept cheap logos is a little more reasonable, but if they don't want to pay for a good logo, why do you have to get so upset about it? You get what you pay for.
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It lowers perceived value of branding work.
 
Unlimited4s said:
The graphic designer in me is crying :(
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You and me both.....

I REALLY don't want to have to install InDesign on this laptop JUST for this little project.

Out of all the one's that have been posted, this is more in line with what I would do....

Wark said:
I just made this for fun:

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IT's simple, it gets the name across and it will work fine on a card stock or letterhead.

A lot of times I run across designers that REALLY overthink shit and screw it up in the process.

Less is usually more.
 
If I knew this thread would have started such a shit fight, I wouldn't have started it.

I have stated why I did this, it's not going to be my final logo but it helps that I take a concept to a designer and show him what I like.

Anyway, keep them coming please Gaf.
 
jecclr2003 said:
IT's simple, it gets the name across and it will work fine on a card stock or letterhead.

A lot of times I run across designers that REALLY overthink shit and screw it up in the process.

Less is usually more.
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Except the typography is atrocious.

Dizzan said:
If I knew this thread would have started such a shit fight, I wouldn't have started it.

I have stated why I did this, it's not going to be my final logo but it helps that I take a concept to a designer and show him what I like.

Anyway, keep them coming please Gaf.
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How about you let your designer be the designer?

Derek Powazek posted this quote a few weeks ago that is absolutely true: "Like designers, if you give a programmer a problem with parameters, they’ll apply every bit of genius they have to solve it in the best possible way. If you tell them how to do it, you’ll suffer the wrath of an angry God."
 
Dizzan said:
If I knew this thread would have started such a shit fight, I wouldn't have started it.

I have stated why I did this, it's not going to be my final logo but it helps that I take a concept to a designer and show him what I like.

Anyway, keep them coming please Gaf.
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So he'll basically be acting as production artist for some amateur.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Except the typography is atrocious and even the slogan is Arial instead of any superior sans-serif font.

How about you let your designer be the designer?

Derek Powazek posted this quote a few weeks ago that is absolutely true: "Like designers, if you give a programmer a problem with parameters, they’ll apply every bit of genius they have to solve it in the best possible way. If you tell them how to do it, you’ll suffer the wrath of an angry God."
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It's a start and even at that state it's better than a majority of the designs.

I've done my share of logo work... it SUCKS.
I can design catalogs, books, magazines... whatever you want. But to devise a logo is tough, especially when the client can't convey what they want.
 
Surreal said:
Thanks but it was just for fun, I'm not going to put anymore time in.

And to all those who are saying that all the designs in this thread suck, well duh. Thanks for the brilliant insight.
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That's a shame. Thanks for your input anyway.
 
jecclr2003 said:
I've done my share of logo work... it SUCKS.
I can design catalogs, books, magazines... whatever you want. But to devise a logo is tough, especially when the client can't convey what they want.
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^ this X 1000
 
a couple concepts I could work out a bit more if you'd like:

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I think they're pretty iconic and memorable in terms of what your company does... Thoughts?
 
RJNavarrete said:
a couple concepts I could work out a bit more if you'd like:

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I think they're pretty iconic and memorable in terms of what your company does... Thoughts?
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I like your tri-coloured stencil signature :o
 
RJNavarrete said:
a couple concepts I could work out a bit more if you'd like:


I think they're pretty iconic and memorable in terms of what your company does... Thoughts?
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I don't really like the first one but I like the idea of the second. It needs to read a little clearer though.
 
YakiSOBA said:
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Meh. Was bored, thanks for giving me something random and totally unrelated to my food toxicology assignment to do :D
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I like this. Any chance of changing "construction" to projects and using red instead of green?
 
RJNavarrete said:
Thoughts? [crit. welcome from all parties].
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Building company. Stability.

I wouldn't mess with angled type, and stick to a grid if you can.

A serifed typeface helps convey stability and professionalism, two things you want in a building contractor.

Color should be minimal, must work in Black and white.

DBM should be dominate, and I wouldn't mess with the letterforms too much, you want to make sure they read it D-M-B.
 
really cool stuff RJN. what fonts did you use for them, specifically your sig and the subtitles for the latter two?

:lol @ hobo. awesome.
 
effingvic said:
really cool stuff RJN. what fonts did you use for them, specifically your sig and the subtitles for the latter two?

:lol @ hobo. awesome.
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Subtitles [in order]:

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Sansation

the font used in my signature is plain old Arial Rounded MT Bold :D
 
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