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Can developers please stop trying to burn our retinas?
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
You know in the legal advisory epilepsy warning they DO tell you to play in well lit rooms but fuck that EMBRACE THE DARKNESS.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Mans really went after OLED owners lol
I know OLED is considered god's gift to man here but my prediction is that it will go the way of plasma. Microled ftw.
01011001
Banned
I mean of course it will. Micro LED is far superior. but as soon as those are at a price range that isn't 40k€ or more, they will also kill every other current screen technology
fart town usa
Banned
Let your own words burn your retinas to a crisp.
Seriously though, hilarious post. I'm curious how bright it is.
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SlimeGooGoo
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rabbity-thing
Member
Sure was nice of OP to pre-emptively throw shade at the obvious solution to his problem.
OLED is king.
OLED is king.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
Just wear some sunglasses like in real life since one the purpose of HDR is to reproduce... real life.
Problem solved.
Also, OLED is better for your eyes and limit eyes straining.
Problem solved.
Also, OLED is better for your eyes and limit eyes straining.
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The difference is immediate too, you're eyes won't feel strain after gaming in a dark room.
It's a cheap as getting a dollar store ring light and putting it on a cool tone and placing it behind your TV screen.
This. I feel like HDR is just a stopgap handicap for the shortcomings of LCD tech. Still on Plasma dont give 2 shits about HDR.
You mean Lcd will. OLED's will take LCD's place as the budget friendly option.
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JackSparr0w
Banned
I used to be a projector guy up until around 10 years ago but unfortunately TVs have rapidly advanced getting bigger and better while projectors have somewhat stagnated.
I agree with you though you can't beat projectors when it comes to natural feel as projector screens reflect light rather than emitting it which is how our eyes perceive the world.
Son with your OLED you got no idea what bright or even HDR means. Here is an example from a standard HDR 1000 LED to the left and the latest and greatest Samsung QD-OLED to the rightMy LG OLED77G26LA gets pretty bright.
The only time you get a hint of HDR with an OLED is during 2% highlight scenes for example a night sky scene. Such scenes are rarer than unicorns and only last for a couple of seconds because there is not much to do by staring at a night sky.
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mxbison
Member
Agree, I've noticed this also recently.
Plague Tale Requiem was awful, I actually closed my eyes every time I entered a new chapter. Marvel Midnight Suns also did this shit when opening card containers.
People here who are laughing it off either already have completely fucked up eyes or not very bright TVs.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Tbh I now think hdr kind of sucks.
All you need to do is play the first area of Metroid prime remaster and look at the deep saturated colors that you never see in a hdr game. Idk if it's a technical thing or a " artistic " one but I always see richer deeper colors in non hdr games.
Hdr games just look more contrasted and washed out with brightness.
All you need to do is play the first area of Metroid prime remaster and look at the deep saturated colors that you never see in a hdr game. Idk if it's a technical thing or a " artistic " one but I always see richer deeper colors in non hdr games.
Hdr games just look more contrasted and washed out with brightness.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
I'm probably buying the projector in something like a year from now, so model can change but, this video inspired me to make the switch. The lasers replacing bulbs did shake things up in projector space.
Won't be as good as a TV in pure raw boring data, but it's wall to wall screen, no ugly speakers in front, and good enough for me. Cinematic experience is out of this world on these. I'll game on an OLED ultrawide for PC mostly anyway
LegendOfKage
Member
I played a game recently where you could make the "flash bang" effect of a shooter make your television screen completely black instead of completely white. All games should have that feature.
zeroluck
Member
Doom Eternal intro video is pretty intense on my 1200nits fullscreen mini led monitor, but it is really only a problem in a dark room. Beside that I think HDR in most games is too dark when it comes to midtone, on PC using reshade to pump up the brightness and contrast almost always result in much better HDR.
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
Yeah, it's especially annoying when you've got a lot of eye floaters.
Bojji
Gold Member
I used to be a projector guy up until around 10 years ago but unfortunately TVs have rapidly advanced getting bigger and better while projectors have somewhat stagnated.
I agree with you though you can't beat projectors when it comes to natural feel as projector screens reflect light rather than emitting it which is how our eyes perceive the world.
Son with your OLED you got no idea what bright or even HDR means. Here is an example from a standard HDR 1000 LED to the left and the latest and greatest Samsung QD-OLED to the right
The only time you get a hint of HDR with an OLED is during 2% highlight scenes for example a night sky scene. Such scenes are rarer than unicorns and only last for a couple of seconds because there is not much to do by staring at a night sky.
My LG OLED looks amazing.
High dynamic RANGE - it's a spectrum from 0 to xxx nits and LCD can't really show image below some level so they are going fully into maximum brightness.
Dommel
Member
Why don't you have an OLED, are you poor or something?
01011001
Banned
JackSparr0w
you still didn't tell us your TV model
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
I used to be a projector guy up until around 10 years ago but unfortunately TVs have rapidly advanced getting bigger and better while projectors have somewhat stagnated.
I agree with you though you can't beat projectors when it comes to natural feel as projector screens reflect light rather than emitting it which is how our eyes perceive the world.
Son with your OLED you got no idea what bright or even HDR means. Here is an example from a standard HDR 1000 LED to the left and the latest and greatest Samsung QD-OLED to the right
The only time you get a hint of HDR with an OLED is during 2% highlight scenes for example a night sky scene. Such scenes are rarer than unicorns and only last for a couple of seconds because there is not much to do by staring at a night sky.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
PCFanboy64
Member
All TVs need to have more backlight options. I bought a U7G and returned it because it wouldn't go dim enough. I'm still rocking on a seven tear old Samsung and happy with it.
soulbait
Member
If it is dark in your room, you do not need to play at 100% brightness...
soulbait
Member
HDR is not just about brightness though. It is also about showing more detail in the shadows. There is a reason why HDR is making its way to cinema screens as well, even though that has nothing to do with LCD screen tech.
JackSparr0w
Banned
The past couple of years I've owned the following models: Acer X35, Acer X27, Asus Pg32uqx, Gigabyte FV43U, Dell 34 aw3423dwf qd-oled.
Current main display: Gigabyte FV43U, Secondary display: Acer X27.
Art The Clown
Banned
If your tv is properly calibrated and don't have a junk TV, HDR shouldn't blind you and even SDR shouldn't blind you.
FUBARx89
Member
Also, it's for the wider colour garmut.
MadchesterManc
Member
I used to be a projector guy up until around 10 years ago but unfortunately TVs have rapidly advanced getting bigger and better while projectors have somewhat stagnated.
I agree with you though you can't beat projectors when it comes to natural feel as projector screens reflect light rather than emitting it which is how our eyes perceive the world.
Son with your OLED you got no idea what bright or even HDR means. Here is an example from a standard HDR 1000 LED to the left and the latest and greatest Samsung QD-OLED to the right
The only time you get a hint of HDR with an OLED is during 2% highlight scenes for example a night sky scene. Such scenes are rarer than unicorns and only last for a couple of seconds because there is not much to do by staring at a night sky.
It's funny really as the image on the left has such overblown contrast that its literally crushing detail. Never go Vivid preset bruh
nemiroff
Gold Member
In that context.. For some reason some developers feel the need to blast eyes with an all white UI (Asobo f.ex.). I don't get how they arrived at the conclusion that white = good UI for products often used at night time.. When we test UI design at work we do it in a dark room lab for a reason (our UIs are skinned with day dusk and night palettes). Game devs should adopt.
JackSparr0w
Banned
What do you expect when the sun hits a tree during a blue bird day? Ever been outside hiking? Bare in mind I would not game in such darkness and the photo is only to demonstrate how dull OLEDs are even with all the lights off.
That's exactly why HDR was invented to replicate such highlights. OLEDs apart from very limited night scenes cannot do HDR. Even then LEDs have much more impactful highlights during such scenes.
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j0hnnix
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sloppyjoe_gamer
Member
OP's current tv with HDR on
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
limped dick oled owner here.
if HDR is blinding you then it's either your shitty ass display or the source hasn't implemented HDR properly.
older OLED models don't get as bright as other TVs but they still do a good job of HDR. more modern sets can do HDR no problem. That said, OLED is still the best place to experience HDR because no other displays can have such high contrast. Maybe when MicroLED comes out.
also, the only time OLEDs will run at "100nits" is sustained 100% windows. so if the entire screen is white. during 99% of scenes OLED can go to about 900 nits and max out at around 980nits. for HDR 1000 nits is the point where it's mastered. so not really a huge difference.
if HDR is blinding you then it's either your shitty ass display or the source hasn't implemented HDR properly.
older OLED models don't get as bright as other TVs but they still do a good job of HDR. more modern sets can do HDR no problem. That said, OLED is still the best place to experience HDR because no other displays can have such high contrast. Maybe when MicroLED comes out.
also, the only time OLEDs will run at "100nits" is sustained 100% windows. so if the entire screen is white. during 99% of scenes OLED can go to about 900 nits and max out at around 980nits. for HDR 1000 nits is the point where it's mastered. so not really a huge difference.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
While the high contrast is true saying OLED is the best place to experience HDR is simply not true
JackSparr0w
Banned
The only reason you don't understand what I'm saying and many others have agreed with is because even my CRT from 1998 outperforms your OLED in terms of full screen brightness.
I put a warning in the OP after the first OLED fangirls started showing up uninvited as usual for a reason.
01011001
Banned
your monitor is only brighter than an OLED if you have your whole screen white tho, like how man games do you play where your whole screen goes full 1000 nits?
Bojji
Gold Member
SDR was/is mastered for 100 nits so what the fuck you are talking about?
Only reason tvs were brighter than this before invention of HDR was to compensate for natural light in the room.
The Lcd shortcoming i was refrencing was the black levels (shadow detail). Most cinemas cheap out on even standard light levels so it would be very unlikely They would adopt a more expensive model.