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[Beth Cyra]

But then it isn't Final Fantasy? I have never understood why people always want Final Fantasy to change things like the battle system. It is the single thing to completely turn me off the latest games.

I don't think I ever see people saying Zelda needs to change its battle system, or Tales games. Why does FF need to change what fundamentally made it FF in the first place? By all means make games like Demon Souls if they want. Just don't call it FF.

Final Fantasy has always been about changing itself every few entries and Square has celebrated this fact.

Does that mean it should be like Souls? No, but it is something that has come to be expected and something that Square does trumpet and something fans rightfully look forward to seeing.

 

[Mxrz]

I dunno if I want it saved under some of the terms people come up with. I'd like for them to go make FF15 already, FFT2, and maybe a HD SD/SoM game. Bringing back Matsuno would be cool. Not having every character be a freaky haired, absurdly dressed weirdo would be nice too.

But itt really does feel like we've been trapped in FF13 forever.

 

[Lightning]

The final story DLC is due out in May and it supposed to answer the 'To be continued.' So we'll see.

And I think part of the issue is the "sequels" or spin-offs or whatever just aren't of the same quality combined with the reality that SE really has done too many of them over the years. There is an impression among fans that their sequels are automatically inferior products.

I hope this is a long DLC and not just 1-2hrs and you're done because the ending to FFXIII-2 left a lot of problems...

While I am not the biggest fan of XIII-2 I would much like the story to be finished properly and not half assed but from the currentlt S-E that will be asking for too much. Do we have any info on this DLC and what is involved in it?

 

[Kagari]

I hope this is a long DLC and not just 1-2hrs and you're done because the ending to FFXIII-2 left a lot of problems...

While I am not the biggest fan of XIII-2 I would much like the story to be finished properly and not half assed but from the currentlt S-E that will be asking for too much. Do we have any info on this DLC and what is involved in it?

I have a hard time believing it'll be longer than an hour at most. We'll see though.

It's basically Lightning vs Caius with a revised battle system.

 

[Zeal]

Give complete creative control of the company to Masato Kato. SQU/\RE returns. No more bullshit games, XVII-3 spin-offs and no more Nomura egocentric idiocy.

If you don't know who he is, it ain't even worth bothering.

 

[MikeE21286]

In all honesty, I think it has to make a Japanese take on Western RPGs that is successful.

Not sure how Japan reacts to that, but I think turn-based Final Fantasy needs some breathing time in the West

 

[AwShucks]

It still sells plenty so it doesn't really need saving. Will it ever appeal as much to some of the fans of the earlier entries? No, probably not.

But who cares as long as Square makes another TWEWY

 

[Beth Cyra]

Give complete creative control of the company to Masato Kato. SQU/\RE returns. No more bullshit games, XVII-3 spin-offs and no more Nomura egocentric idiocy.
If you don't know who he is, it ain't even worth bothering.

Out of all the things I've seen thrown at Nomura this might be the most retarded.

They had a a brand new spin off which was pretty much Nomura's love letter/paying respect to Amano. Where is this Egocentric shit coming from?

 

[jaxword]

It would help if older players realized they aren't the target demographic anymore methinks.

No, I must have the same sensations I had for the first time at age 12! If it's not EXACTLY like that, Square Enix is dead to me.

 

[Lightning]

I have a hard time believing it'll be longer than an hour at most. We'll see though.

It's basically Lightning vs Caius with a revised battle system.

Figures. Crappy...

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

REBOOT!

Finaler Fantasy

 

[CorvoSol]

Give complete creative control of the company to Masato Kato. SQU/\RE returns. No more bullshit games, XVII-3 spin-offs and no more Nomura egocentric idiocy.

If you don't know who he is, it ain't even worth bothering.

Nomura is practically the only sane man left in that company, I swear. His games are solid, and his stories, however bad, are infinitely, majestically, titanically, monumentally better than anything that Motomu Toriyama has shat out in the past five years. The World Ends With You was downright fantastic. If Nomura's "ego" has been causing it, then it's a saving grace.

Unless you actually meant to say Toriyama, and then you'd be right.

Out of all the things I've seen thrown at Nomura this might be the most retarded.

They had a a brand new spin off which was pretty much Nomura's love letter/paying respect to Amano. Where is this Egocentric shit coming from?

Also this.

 

[state_vector_collapse]

Final Fantasy has always been about changing itself every few entries and Square has celebrated this fact.

Does that mean it should be like Souls? No, but it is something that has come to be expected and something that Square does trumpet and something fans rightfully look forward to seeing.

Well they always changed how you went about gaining abilities and magic. But up until FFX the battle system was fundamentally the same. 12 caused something of a backlash because of the dramatic change to the battle system. and we all know how 13 has fared with some fans.

But that's 10 games where the battle system was ATB and complete control of each character during fights. Maybe it's rose tinted specs talking, but those initial ten games seem to have much more love given to them to than 12 and 13 have done. But hey, opinions and all that, not expecting to change your mind

 

[Anustart]

I don't know if it would save the brand (if the brand needs saving at all), but I wouldn't mind it at all if square went the mega man 9 route and released a new 16 bit final fantasy as a digital download.

Wouldn't mind one bit!

 

[Phat Michael]

But then it isn't Final Fantasy? I have never understood why people always want Final Fantasy to change things like the battle system. It is the single thing to completely turn me off the latest games.

I don't think I ever see people saying Zelda needs to change its battle system, or Tales games. Why does FF need to change what fundamentally made it FF in the first place? By all means make games like Demon Souls if they want. Just don't call it FF.

Thats what i wrote, then it wouldnt be a traditional FF Game. But seriously, the turn based battle systems cant honestly be compared favourably to dark souls which has an amazing combat system.

It will never happen, but i would love an RPG set in a steampunk or bladerunner type shadowrun world with Dark Souls combat - featuring ranged and up close weaponry/spells. it would be absolutely fantastic.

 

[Teknoman]

I just want to know if they're really planning on releasing XIV for the PS3 by winter 2012.

Not that I really care, I just want them to move on to XV since Versus is pretty much incognito.

They will, with the remade team, everything has been going well and on track so far.

Eh. I'd say otherwise.

Versus isn't out yet, FFXIV was a failure, and the next console FF will probably be FFXIII-esque, too.

Maybe they'll hand over the franchise to Eidos, at least they've shown that they can do an RPG.

Well once XIV 2.0 hits, we'll see if it will be completely back on its feet. As things are, they've come quite abit out of the hole they dug. It even has an advantage over the last few recent titles: A clear cut story with a few identifiable enemies, and it actually makes sense. Also Meteor, magitek, and classic summons are involved.

 

[Crash Station]

Give complete creative control of the company to Masato Kato. SQU/\RE returns. No more bullshit games, XVII-3 spin-offs and no more Nomura egocentric idiocy.

If you don't know who he is, it ain't even worth bothering.

I love Kato, but the guy is kind of... nuts. I don't think I'd trust him with all of Square. I would like to see him write a mainline FF though.

 

[GreekWolf]

Series is dead in America. There's no way for it to survive in the dudebro environment and XIII left a really bad impression. I expect it to fade into DQ obscurity in the west over the next decade and Square will have to rely on Japanese sales only to fund the franchise.

I don't see any way for FF to survive in the US. The brand is dead. SE will have to get used to having 1/2 the sales FF once did.

I agree with all of this. IMO, the series has been terrible for a very long time. After the colossal disappointment of FFXIII, I'm not willing to give the series another look. It will forever remain a nostalgic favorite of mine from the SNES and PSOne days.

Lost Odyssey provided my old-school FF fix, and was more enjoyable than anything Square has created in many years. If MS had any common sense, they would continue to fund that series (along with Blue Dragon and additional Mistwalker titles), and gradually build a substantial American following.

 

[brandonh83]

This is just... one guy's opinion, and an opinion that I never thought in a billion years I could possibly have, but I have to say that in the long run I ended up enjoying FFXIII-2 a lot more than Skyrim and Mass Effect 3. Skyrim had gorgeous environments but the game just bored the shit out of me. And Mass Effect 3 was just mostly stale all around.

FFXIII-2? Nah. I found it to be very energetic and vibrant with a fun battle system. Story was by no means good but it had that charming and over the top FF narrative where everything feels super important and all the twists are put under a magnifying glass. ME3's story was barren and fizzled out at the end. It left no impression on me and did not leave me wanting to replay it or even look in its direction again. XIII-2's ending was like what the fuuuuck and left me interested in seeing where that's going (uh, if it does go anywhere).

I'm just saying, a lot of the gaming populace might consider the ME games to have much better storytelling/writing than something like FF because of how "mature" and generally well written the dialogue is, but I have to say that XIII-2's story (and especially ending) actually interested me a lot more. I found it to be a more enjoyable experience.

Again, this one opinion isn't any indication that FFXIII-2 is indeed the better game, nor is it any indication that Square is the better game company. I just wanted to talk about it because I saw the thread and how doom and gloom it is, and the other day I actually got to thinking about how XIII-2 was actually a very enjoyable experience for me while these more popular, "better" games have been leaving me with some negative to mixed feelings.

 

[Maaseru]

For me it has always been simple. Try to translate what they did with 4,6,7,8and 9 to PS3. Even if people love or hate any of those FF they still have the right idea, scale for the series we know and love. I just don't know why they became that lazy and just ignored what made all those games awesome. That is why I wanted the 7 remake so they could SEE how a game of that scale would work on a system like the PS3.

 

[Adam Prime]

After playing Xenoblade Chronicles and now The Last Story... I don't care if Final Fantasy is dead.

The creative minds that made that series so great (SNES and PSX era) to me are long gone and the direction has moved on. I loved the battle systems in X, XII, and XIII. But I don't think Square has what it takes to create a world and characters that it needs to be truly great again.

 

[Ravage]

For me it has always been simple. Try to translate what they did with 4,6,7,8and 9 to PS3. Even if people love or hate any of those FF they still have the right idea, scale for the series we know and love. I just don't know why they became that lazy and just ignored what made all those games awesome. That is why I wanted the 7 remake so they could SEE how a game of that scale would work on a system like the PS3.

I can see how that applies to FFXIII, but surely you can't criticize FFXII for lacking scale.

 

[Maaseru]

I can see how that applies to FFXIII, but surely you can't criticize FFXII for lacking scale.

Yeah...I know. I left out X and XII out of my comment on purpose. First because I felt, or at some point heard, X was like that all linear, because they were not familiar with the ps2, but it was a sweet game, loved the story. I like XII but hate so much that it was like that because that story had so much potential with Bach as frontman but oh well. Also XII was a lot different and felt like a Vagrant Story sequel. Story problems aside, XII was an awesome game and also a great mold for this gens Final Fantasy games.

But yeah you get the idea they dropped the ball. And they dropped it having had great examples of Amazing games from at least 3 or 4 previous generations. I don't get it.

That's why the 7 remake would ahve been not only great for business, but great for 'translation' experience.

 

[spirity]

I hope they do remake FF7. Not because I want it, but because it will show everyone how SE is nothing like Squaresoft, and you will never get games like 6, 7, 8 and 9 again.

Perhaps then you'll all stop hoping for the impossible, finally let go, and move on to better things. Deep down you all know what I'm saying is true, but there's no better way than them showing you. And trust me on this, they will, because they're unable to do anything but show you they aren't Squaresoft.

Its over guys. Has been for years.

 

[Ravage]

Yeah...I know. I left out X and XII out of my comment on purpose. First because I felt, or at some point heard, X was like that all linear, because they were not familiar with the ps2, but it was a sweet game, loved the story. I like XII but hate so much that it was like that because that story had so much potential with Bach as frontman but oh well. Also XII was a lot different and felt like a Vagrant Story sequel. Story problems aside, XII was an awesome game and also a great mold for this gens Final Fantasy games.

But yeah you get the idea they dropped the ball. And they dropped it having had great examples of Amazing games from at least 3 or 4 previous generations. I don't get it.

That's why the 7 remake would ahve been not only great for business, but great for 'translation' experience.

I think i know what you actually want - a complete and balanced package i.e. great story, gameplay, scale, etc
Perfectly reasonable, but i guess we all have different expectations for the FF brand

Personally, i place uneven emphasis on scale, innovation, and the appeal of world concept. That's why i enjoyed XII so much despite its crap story (it had potential at the start though) and overall terrible cast. It's more or less the same for VIII, my favourite FF.

That's probably the main reason why i remain optimistic that Versus would deliver for me. So far, it sounds like it's gonna tick all the checkboxes i care about most.

edit: To add on, i guess the same applies to fans of FFXIII. I mean sure, it has major problems with scale, pacing and story. But aside from the lack of gambits and free switch, it's a clear improvement gameplay-wise. I can see how gameplay-oriented gamers would enjoy XIII despite its flaws. Problem is, i think XIII pissed off alot more fans than it gained due to a sharp drop in overall quality. Toriyama is the main cause of this imo.

 

[toastyToast]

I suppose they could.

The games really need their writing tightened up. The dialogue in XIII-2 is unbearable. It's like the writers have no concept of how people talk and are too wrapped in what they want the characters to communicate while completely ignoring how. I'm pretty forgiving and I took issue with it. Imagine a 18-25 year old sitting down with this. Very unlikely

 

[Roxas]

My 5 step plan for the FF brand

1. More details on FFX HD for PS3/Vita
2. Announce Type-0 for Vita worldwide
3. HD remakes of X-2 & XII
4. Rename FFvs13 to XV
5. FF7 remake

show me the money

 

[Beth Cyra]

My 5 step plan for the FF brand

1. More details on FFX HD for PS3/Vita
2. Announce Type-0 for Vita worldwide
3. HD remakes of X-2 & XII
4. Rename FFvs13 to XV
5. FF7 remake

show me the money

1. Remakes almost never do nearly as well as the original.
2. Vita while an amazing system isn't performing that well anywhere.
3. Repeat Number 1
4. Won't change the long Dev time or it's connection to the FNC.
5. Again Repeat number 1.

These things may help a little bit, but they are not going to do alot, even more so when one of the games met with a similar fate as FF XIII.

 

[P90]

I liked XIII-2. I think the improvements made there "saved" FF from what a trainwreck FF XIII was. FF lags behind competitors like Atlus, Konami, and Monolith, among others. I am no longer an instant buyer on all things Square.

How to save FF? Quit incorporating "western" RPG elements. Go back to being FF with more turn-based battles, a la X or go way back. Bring back/keep Japanese aesthetics. Allow Japanese voices with English subtitles. Pretty much that should do it.

 

[aliencowz7]

I liked XIII-2. I think the improvements made there "saved" FF from what a trainwreck FF XIII was. FF lags behind competitors like Atlus, Konami, and Monolith, among others. I am no longer an instant buyer on all things Square.

How to save FF? Quit incorporating "western" RPG elements. Go back to being FF with more turn-based battles, a la X or go way back. Bring back/keep Japanese aesthetics. Allow Japanese voices with English subtitles. Pretty much that should do it.

While I agree with most of these points, the last one I cant agree with. I absolutely abhor Japanese voice acting and will almost always take low quality English VA over anything Japanese and that's as a massive JRPG fan.

Encouraging a company that's become notorious for taking shortcuts to take a large shortcut for no actual benefit doesn't seem like a good way to get them to return to form.

 

[Misterhbk]

1. Remakes almost never do nearly as well as the original.
2. Vita while an amazing system isn't performing that well anywhere.
3. Repeat Number 1
4. Won't change the long Dev time or it's connection to the FNC.
5. Again Repeat number 1.

These things may help a little bit, but they are not going to do alot, even more so when one of the games met with a similar fate as FF XIII.

If you don't think a final fantasy 7 remake would sell extremely well you are absolute out of your mind. Not saying it would match what the original did but the game would sell and would push systems. That much is undeniable.

 

[Beth Cyra]

If you don't think a final fantasy 7 remake would sell extremely well you are absolute out of your mind. Not saying it would match what the original did but the game would sell and would push systems. That much is undeniable.

And FF VII fans love to overestimate exactly what this kinda game would do.

FF VII did just over 10 Mill, and while impressive for a JRPG this isn't that big a deal these days, we have franchises that average over that now.

Also many people who bought that game will not be buying it again, and while some people will come new to it, it won't be nearly what happened with the original. FF VII will not have the hype it once had, it won't have the ablitiy to change people's perspective of gaming as it did years ago.

This is a tempoarary bandaid and nothinng more. It is also a card SE can play only one time and actually have it be effective and regardless of how it plays out it will not fix the issuee they have with fans and their trust in games going forward.

 

[Misterhbk]

And FF VII fans love to overestimate exactly what this kinda game would do.

FF VII did just over 10 Mill, and while impressive for a JRPG this isn't that big a deal these days, we have franchises that average over that now.

Also many people who bought that game will not be buying it again, and while some people will come new to it, it won't be nearly what happened with the original. FF VII will not have the hype it once had, it won't have the ablitiy to change people's perspective of gaming as it did years ago.

This is a tempoarary bandaid and nothinng more. It is also a card SE can play only one time and actually have it be effective and regardless of how it plays out it will not fix the issuee they have with fans and their trust in games going forward.

10 million isn't that big of a deal???????????

There are maybe 5 franchises that hit that number with each iteration and that's being generous. Call of Duty numbers aren't common. If the game came out and only sold 2-3 million (which is would probably do with ease) then it would be a success. It would probably have great critical acclaim as well.

This mindset that games have to beat Call of Duty is bad for the industry.

 

[Beth Cyra]

10 million isn't that big of a deal???????????

There are maybe 5 franchises that hit that number with each iteration and that's being generous. Call of Duty numbers aren't common. If the game came out and only sold 2-3 million (which is would probably do with ease) then it would be a success. It would probably have great critical acclaim as well.

This mindset that games have to beat Call of Duty is bad for the industry.

More then 5 franchises hit over 10 Mil now.

Then again this doesn't matter as you are ignoring the entire point. FF VII can not fix the issue people have with SE going forward. It will be a temp fix with a what is very likely a 10 Mil cap that in all likely hood the game wouldn't reach.

Even if 5 million people go out and buy FF VIIR, it will not suddenly make people forget the problems SE has had with FF XII/XIII/XIV nor will it even be able to please everyone who loved FF VII and SE will have thrown away one of their biggest get out of jail free cards.

 

[Roxas]

And FF VII fans love to overestimate exactly what this kinda game would do.

FF VII did just over 10 Mill, and while impressive for a JRPG this isn't that big a deal these days, we have franchises that average over that now.

Also many people who bought that game will not be buying it again, and while some people will come new to it, it won't be nearly what happened with the original. FF VII will not have the hype it once had, it won't have the ablitiy to change people's perspective of gaming as it did years ago.

This is a tempoarary bandaid and nothinng more. It is also a card SE can play only one time and actually have it be effective and regardless of how it plays out it will not fix the issuee they have with fans and their trust in games going forward.

Wooooah there, there's maybe a handful of games not called Call of Duty which have reached 10 mil this gen. Its a huge number!

 

[KtSlime]

If you don't think a final fantasy 7 remake would sell extremely well you are absolute out of your mind. Not saying it would match what the original did but the game would sell and would push systems. That much is undeniable.

Sure it would sell well, however what does that got to do with saving the FF brand? Hint: it won't, it will just earn them enough money to waste it on more poor planing, unfulfilled promises, and poorly executed remakes and sequels.

 

[Misterhbk]

More then 5 franchises hit over 10 Mil now.

Then again this doesn't matter as you are ignoring the entire point. FF VII can not fix the issue people have with SE going forward. It will be a temp fix with a what is very likely a 10 Mil cap that in all likely hood the game wouldn't reach.

Even if 5 million people go out and buy FF VIIR, it will not suddenly make people forget the problems SE has had with FF XII/XIII/XIV nor will it even be able to please everyone who loved FF VII and SE will have thrown away one of their biggest get out of jail free cards.

My issue never was if it would save it or not. You suggested that FFVIIR would not be a success. I simply refuted that claim.

And yes more than 5 franchises have totaled over 10 million sells but very few hit 10 million each time they drop. Mario games, and Call of Duty are the exception, not the rule.

Gears, Uncharted, God of War, Halo etc don't typically hit 10 million plus but they're all VERY successful franchises with each release.

 

[Misterhbk]

Wooooah there, there's maybe a handful of games not called Call of Duty which have reached 10 mil this gen. Its a huge number!

Exactly.

But as far as saving FF, what's to say a VII remake wouldn't. If the game dropped, sold what SE expected or more, got high praise (which it would) perhaps SE would see that going back to that formula would be a good thing.

 

[Beth Cyra]

My issue never was if it would save it or not. You suggested that FFVIIR would not be a success. I simply refuted that claim.

And yes more than 5 franchises have totaled over 10 million sells but very few hit 10 million each time they drop. Mario games, and Call of Duty are the exception, not the rule.

Gears, Uncharted, God of War, Halo etc don't typically hit 10 million plus but they're all VERY successful franchises with each release.

Then you responded to nothing. My original qoute was that Remakes don't equal their original games. I never claimed that FF VII wouldn't sell. My claim is simple, people who think it can "Save" FF or SE or that it would do as well as the origianl are out of their minds.

 

[Nekofrog]

If you don't think a final fantasy 7 remake would sell extremely well you are absolute out of your mind. Not saying it would match what the original did but the game would sell and would push systems. That much is undeniable.

Reality: A LOT of gamers out there are too young to have ever played FF7, and they don't care about it. The only people who DO care are the hardcore fans that DID grow up on it.

The audience for an FF7 remake is NOT as vast as you might imagine.

 

[Misterhbk]

Also, are we talking about saving FF quality wise or sales wise? Because sales wise it's a fact that despite the fan hate, the games still sell well enough for SE to keep dropping them. Quality wise is pure opinion and in which case whether they need saving or not it's completely up to each player.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Also, are we talking about saving FF quality wise or sales wise? Because sales wise it's a fact that despite the fan hate, the games still sell well enough for SE to keep dropping them. Quality wise is pure opinion and in which case whether they need saving or not it's completely up to each player.

It won't do either.

FF VIIR will come out and sell. It will likely do better then FF XII/XIII but it won't reach X numbers nor will it have a lasting effect that would make the next few FF's have similar numbers.

The only thing it will do is come out, generate both Hype and Hate and unless SE has a follow up that would be amazing and sell without FF VIIr's help (a game of with both Hype and the ablitity to hook both old and new gamers like FF VII and X did) they will throw away and amount of love/hype they gained from said Remake and fall right back into the divide and continued downward trend that the last few games has had.

 

[H_Prestige]

Also, are we talking about saving FF quality wise or sales wise? Because sales wise it's a fact that despite the fan hate, the games still sell well enough for SE to keep dropping them. Quality wise is pure opinion and in which case whether they need saving or not it's completely up to each player.

Quality and sales are linked. FF sales are nowhere near what they were during the ps1 days, and FFXIII fucked things up even more. FFXV will sell less than XIII. The damage to the brand is pretty significant.

 

[Nirolak]

Because sales wise it's a fact that despite the fan hate, the games still sell well enough for SE to keep dropping them.

This was true until recently, when they kind of completely imploded with FFXIV and FFXIII-2.

 

[aliencowz7]

This was true until recently, when they kind of completely imploded with FFXIV and FFXIII-2.

I think the xiii-2 sales were good enough that they wouldn't stop releasing FF games based off it. xiv on the other hand was a total bomb and more games selling like that would very much make them think twice i'm sure. I would be curious to know just how much money they lost from the development of xiv and how much profit they are making back from subs after server costs and other post launch costs are factored in.

 

[Beth Cyra]

I think the xiii-2 sales were good enough that they wouldn't stop releasing FF games based off it. xiv on the other hand was a total bomb and more games selling like that would very much make them think twice i'm sure. I would be curious to know just how much money they lost from the development of xiv and how much profit they are making back from subs after server costs and other post launch costs are factored in.

Given they let people play for free for a very long time, and they are completely rebuilding the game when factoring in it's sales there is almost no way they have made any money on it at all.

 

[aliencowz7]

Given they let people play for free for a very long time, and they are completely rebuilding the game when factoring in it's sales there is almost no way they have made any money on it at all.

Yeah profit was probably the wrong choice of words, I meant more how much of the loss they are recouping from subs now or if post launch costs like rebuilding and server upkeep pretty much just make it null or put them further behind.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Yeah profit was probably the wrong choice of words, I meant more how much of the loss they are recouping from subs now or if post launch costs like rebuilding and server upkeep pretty much just make it null or put them further behind.

I would imagine they are only losing more and more as time goes on.

Granted I have no idea, but I'm guessing they are betting any hope of ever seeing a penny from the game, at for a very long time if ever is the launch of XIV 2.0 and hopes and prayers that PS3 gamers give it a shot.

 

[Ghost_Protocol]

There should have been a definition established for the word "saving" way back in the OP. Saving doesn't mean "increasing sales numbers". It means restoring the widespread respect gamers had for the series back in the days of FFVI and FFVII.

The games just aren't special anymore. The worlds aren't, the characters aren't, the stories aren't, the music isn't; I don't know how they can correct so many different failures at once with the same group of people..... I do know that Nomura must take a back seat in order for anything to change.

Under NO circumstances should FFXV feature character designs or story scenarios designed by Tetsuya Nomura. Under NO circumstances.

 

[H_Prestige]

There should have been a definition established for the word "saving" way back in the OP. Saving doesn't mean "increasing sales numbers". It means restoring the widespread respect gamers had for the series back in the days of FFVI and FFVII.

The games just aren't special anymore. The worlds aren't, the characters aren't, the stories aren't, the music isn't; I don't know how they can correct so many different failures at once with the same group of people..... I do know that Nomura must take a back seat in order for anything to change.

Under NO circumstances should FFXV feature character designs or story scenarios designed by Tetsuya Nomura. Under NO circumstances.

You know FFVI, VII, and VIII all had characters and story elements designed by Nomura, right?