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[pr0cs]

Can only hope it gets cancelled. There is no way it can work without devastating entire industries. Like a lot of things Canada signs on with these 'great ideas' without thinking things through.

- gun control registration
- kyoto
- etc

 

[BocoDragon]

Doesn't Canada have a lot to gain with the earth warming up?

Won't this make a lot of land that was previously to cold to do anything with available for natural resources exploitation?

That India, Bangladesh and a lot of third world countries are screwed with this, isn't their problem I guess.

I read a Canadian government report which said that southern BC could realistically have the climate of California someday. Not bad.

 

[Divvy]

People who bring up China into these discussions always seem to ignore the fact that they are one of the leaders of green tech in the world.

 

[jorma]

Jorma - but again, that has nothing to do with the problem. Emissions are overwhelmingly not about individuals, it's about the steps your industrial base is taking. Look at Beijing's sky line and then look at any other city in the US, INCLUDING LA. I'll take LA or any US city over Beijing.

But China is already doing more than the US according to the link i just read that you posted yourself.

 

[Gaborn]

But China is already doing more than the US according to the link i just read that you posted yourself.

In some areas, but not NEARLY enough. I mean, again, I think the US's problem is more broad based, that is, individually people pollute a bit more because we're more likely to own cars, more likely to be able to afford more energy using devices, etc. But I think China's problem is narrower (That is, fewer people are significant contributors to emissions) but MUCH deeper because the industrial base is less likely to use greener processes to curb THEIR emissions.

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

Kyoto was a joke from the first moment they suggested that developed countries had to pay undeveloped countries billions of dollars and furnish them with technology. That, and the emissions trading racket. There's no legitimate justification for it.

 

[Something Wicked]

It's official:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/13/us-kyoto-withdrawal-idUSTRE7BB1X420111213

(Reuters) - Canada on Monday became the first country to announce it would withdraw from the Kyoto protocol on climate change, dealing a symbolic blow to the already troubled global treaty.

Environment Minister Peter Kent broke the news on his return from talks in Durban, where countries agreed to extend Kyoto for five years and hammer out a new deal forcing all big polluters for the first time to limit greenhouse gas emissions.

Canada, a major energy producer which critics complain is becoming a climate renegade, has long complained Kyoto is unworkable precisely because it excludes so many significant emitters.

"As we've said, Kyoto for Canada is in the past ... We are invoking our legal right to formally withdraw from Kyoto," Kent told reporters.

The right-of-center Conservative government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper, which has close ties to the energy sector, says Canada would be subject to penalties equivalent to C$14 billion ($13.6 billion) under the terms of the treaty for not cutting emissions by the required amount by 2012.

"To meet the targets under Kyoto for 2012 would be the equivalent of either removing every car truck, all-terrain vehicle, tractor, ambulance, police car and vehicle off every kind of Canadian road," said Kent.

Welcome back to the good side, Canada. The True North is strong and free, indeed.

 

[Mael]

Kyoto was a joke from the first moment they suggested that developed countries had to pay undeveloped countries billions of dollars and furnish them with technology. That, and the emissions trading racket. There's no legitimate justification for it.

I was wondering why there was no thread about it here....
I was seconds away from making a new thread...
Here the whole carbon market lead to 2 Billion € disappearing in the ends of con artists who basically conned the government in paying them this amount in the carbon eneergy market they put up.
Wonderful idea that was, the one who went with this idea is a total moron.

 

[ToxicAdam]

I regret that Canada has announced it will withdraw and am surprised over its timing. Whether or not Canada is a Party to the Kyoto Protocol, it has a legal obligation under the Convention to reduce its emissions, and a moral obligation to itself and future generations to lead in the global effort. Industrialized countries whose emissions have risen significantly since 1990, as is the case for Canada, remain in a weaker position to call on developing countries to limit their emissions.

Well, that's an interesting turn on what used to be a 'voluntary' commitment.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/world/12344482/un-regrets-canada-s-kyoto-withdrawal/

 

[Home]

Our favourite Taiwanese news people did a report on Canada pulling out of the Kyoto Accord:

http://youtu.be/MaiMcv2gQe0

 

[Hari Seldon]

Soo... a bunch of oil is found in Canada and all of a sudden they have a conservative government. Sounds like US "politics".