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Canadian AIDS doctors urge Obama, Romney to end war on drugs

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Canadian AIDS doctors urge Obama, Romney to end war on drugs

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The campaign has a specific message for U.S. President Barack Obama and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, “You can’t end AIDS unless you end the war on drugs. It’s dead simple.”

Among those asking world leaders to show “leadership,” “courage” and “to do the right thing” are British billionaire Richard Branson, the former presidents of Brazil and Colombia, and B.C.-based AIDS specialists doctors, Evan Wood and Julio Montaner.

The campaign is being launched as delegates meet this week at a major international AIDS conference in Washington.

“I think people are really starting to question the war on drugs,” said Dr. Wood, lead researcher at the B.C. Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS and chair of the Vienna Declaration.

“I think globally we’re seeing a real shift in terms of public opinion and a recognition that addiction should be treated more as a health issue rather than a criminal justice issue.”

Dr. Wood said that while HIV infection rates are falling around the globe, the number of cases appears to be rising in countries with aggressive policies for prosecuting drug related crimes.

He argues the war on drugs actually helps spread HIV in several ways.

It often forces addicts into hiding and out of the reach of health officials who can help protect them from the terrible dangers posed by intravenous drug use, he said.

The data clearly shows, he added, that the HIV virus is spreading among prison inmates who mainline drugs.

Injection drug use accounts for one-third of new HIV infections outside of sub-Saharan Africa, according to the BC Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS and the International Centre for Science in Drug Policy.

The centres estimate there are currently 34 million people worldwide living with HIV.

So far, the war on drugs has cost the U.S. economy more than $1-trillion, and each case of AIDS can cost the Canadian taxpayer about $500,000 in medical costs, Wood said.

When asked how successful the new campaign is likely to be in convincing American political leaders, Dr. Wood noted that economic times are tough and some states are now spending more money on incarceration than on education.

He said three U.S. states will also ask voters during the November’s presidential elections to cast ballots on the taxation and regulation of marijuana.

Dr. Wood said copies of the Vienna Declaration, signed by more than 23,400 people since 2010, will be delivered to world leaders, including Mr. Obama, Mr. Romney and the secretary general of the United Nations.

In Ottawa, the office of federal Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq defended its efforts to battle HIV/AIDS.

“Our government is committed to addressing HIV/AIDS in Canada and is providing record amounts of funding to support research, vaccine development, public awareness, prevention, treatment, and support,” the Health Ministry said in a statement to The Canadian Press.

Discussions about law enforcement and drugs, including such issues as mandatory minimum prison sentences and the decriminalization of marijuana, have been active across Canada in recent months.

At the Summit of the Americas in April, Prime Minister Stephen Harper suggested he was open to discussing the war on drugs.

“I think what everyone believes and agrees with, and to be frank myself, is that the current approach is not working, but it is not clear what we should do,” he told reporters.

This spring eight B.C. mayors wrote to provincial party leaders calling for regulation and taxation of marijuana.

In March, the chief health officers for British Columbia, Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia published a commentary, calling on the Harper government to rethink its mandatory minimum sentences for minor drug-related offences.

Federal NDP leader Tom Mulcair has said he doesn’t believe anyone should go to jail for possessing a small amount of marijuana, and interim Liberal leader Bob Rae has called Mr. Harper’s drug policy “a failed policy, a jail policy.”

In February, four former B.C. attorneys general said marijuana prohibition was fuelling gang wars and clogging the courts.

Joining the chorus were 28 current and former law-enforcement officials from the U.S., who are members of the group, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.

They warned Canadian parliamentarians about mandatory-minimum sentencing laws for minor drug offences, calling the laws “costly failures.”

Besides ending the war on drugs, Wood said he’d also like to see a transparent review of the effectiveness of drug policies.

“The government has been collecting years of statistics on drug price and purity and rates of use,” he said. “If you actually sit down and look at the government’s own data it shows that this policy has been an astronomical failure.”
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
“I think globally we’re seeing a real shift in terms of public opinion and a recognition that addiction should be treated more as a health issue rather than a criminal justice issue.”
What more needs to be said? Treating users as criminals was a stupid move from the start.
 

Gaborn

Member
Neither party has given me ANY reason for any hope whatsoever. Just look at Colorado where the Feds are STILL raiding marijuana dispensaries fully compliant with state law despite Obama AND Holder's promises. Maybe one day we'll wake up.
 

JCX

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Neither party has given me ANY reason for any hope whatsoever. Just look at Colorado where the Feds are STILL raiding marijuana dispensaries fully compliant with state law despite Obama AND Holder's promises. Maybe one day we'll wake up.

Unfortunately, I think it would require some sort of massive spillover of violence from Mexico into border states with significant American casualties, but I think cartels know better than to push their luck in that way.
 
It's just becoming such a problem in so many areas. It's a health/disease issue, economic, domestic violence and social/racial issue.
 
Ban guns and promote drug use? You crazy lefties.

Probably sarcasm, but I think concealed carrying laws are fine because those guns serve a purpose of defending yourself. But banning these lethal killing sub-machine/automatic guns or limiting them to shooting ranges for sport would be good.

And this isn't promoting drug use... its promoting common sense laws.
 
I support a Portugal style emphasis on treatment, but that is less likely to happen if we continue to have our current health system (I don't know if it will change under the ACT).

A law that became active on July 1, 2001 did not legalise drug use, but forced users caught with banned substances to appear in front of special addiction panels rather than in a criminal court.

The panels composed of psychologists, judges and social workers recommended action based on the specifics of each case.

Since then, government panels have recommended a response based largely on whether the individual is an occasional drug user or an addict.

Of the nearly 40,000 people currently being treated, "the vast majority of problematic users are today supported by a system that does not treat them as delinquents but as sick people," Goulao said.
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Chichikov

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Unfortunately, I think it would require some sort of massive spillover of violence from Mexico into border states with significant American casualties, but I think cartels know better than to push their luck in that way.
You'll be surprised how accommodating politicians can be for stuff that the public support.
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Once that ball start rolling (and I guessing it will be on the state level) it will get legalized quite quickly.
 

Drazgul

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Neither party has given me ANY reason for any hope whatsoever. Just look at Colorado where the Feds are STILL raiding marijuana dispensaries fully compliant with state law despite Obama AND Holder's promises. Maybe one day we'll wake up.

I may be mistaken here (not an american), but doesn't federal law supercede state law?
 

Chichikov

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Politicians don't win over anyone of consequence by going for legalization. Moneyed interests are still against it, so it won't happen.
You really think that a GOP push for legalization can't win them some younger votes?
Because I do.
Look at gay rights, that has even less supposed consequence (as once party engage in a all out war against gay rights), but once public support went over 50%, so did politicians.

And remember, politicians only care about getting elected, they need the money mostly to get elected, but they also need votes.
 
You really think that a GOP push for legalization can't win them some younger votes?
Because I do.
Look at gay rights, that has even less supposed consequence (as once party engage in a all out war against gay rights), but once public support went over 50%, so did politicians.

And remember, politicians only care about getting elected, they need the money mostly to get elected, but they also need votes.

No I don't because A) they don't believe in it and B) young people don't send them tons of money or vote as much
 

JCX

Member
It's also a political risk for any sitting legislator because a competitor, regardless of party, would hammer the pro-legalization incumbent as being "soft on crime", that's why for the most part, the pro-legalization stuff in congress comes from congress people who aren't running for reelection. That's why I could see violence and increased economic need as catalysts for significant drug law changes.
 
I think it's kinda funny that a government that just passed a bill amping up the war on drugs is touted here as being "open to discussing" alternative solutions.

Then again, since Canada's started to back away from evidence-based policymaking, it's no wonder our scientists are starting to look to other political leadership in the hopes that someone will listen to them.
 

Tabris

Member
This is such a tricky situation. I work in the Vancouver east side which is probably the most concentrated centre for drug use in North America.

We have inSite (safe place where you can go to inject in private) which is great for dealing with the needles on the street/HIV issue, every major centre should have this.

Unfortunately, there's no solution to the drug problem (not talking about marijuana, makes no sense for that not to be legal) except constant education. You can't legalize due to the highly addictive and destructive nature. With legalization comes more casual users, which unlike marijuana, can quickly lead to addicted users. You also can't enforce recovery. Only solution is constantly educating each new generation and wait the generations out as it use reduces.

In the meantime, inSite is absolutely necessary and more money to education.
 
If they legalized drugs and took all those million/billions used to futilely fund the "war on drugs" they could spend on rehab centers/education. Crime would go down as people would be more able to afford their drugs and not have to resort to crime/spend what money they do earn on food/rent instead. Mexican cartels would lose a lot of their power as they move their operations to the second best money maker - human trafficking. And that is a lot easier to track and stop than drug smuggling. That helps both Mexico and the US.
 

Tabris

Member
You can't legalize crack cocaine, meth, and/or heroin and that's what is destroying lives here. The risk to casual users is way too high and legalizing will increase casual users.
 

Ether_Snake

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How can you have free rehabilitation but not free health care?

If they legalized drugs and took all those million/billions used to futilely fund the "war on drugs" they could spend on rehab centers/education. Crime would go down as people would be more able to afford their drugs and not have to resort to crime/spend what money they do earn on food/rent instead. Mexican cartels would lose a lot of their power as they move their operations to the second best money maker - human trafficking. And that is a lot easier to track and stop than drug smuggling. That helps both Mexico and the US.

But crime helps keep people in poverty, out of school, and private prisons full of cash.
 

BPRD

Banned
If they did in US what they do in other countries for heroin/opiate users, to provide free or cheap weekly payments in a safe environment. it would help those people have steady lives. As a person who has suffered from opiate addicted since birth(methadone baby) I have felt trapped my entire life. My brain will never be recovered its hardwired this way. So I am a criminal for a choice I didn't initially make. Once they weened me off methadone I had birth defect a vascular tumor. I had an average of four surgeries a year until the age of ten. So I always had codeine available. then when the surgeries stopped I would steal hydrocodone from family/friends houses, and phsyically hurt myself on purpose breaking bones to get the opiates. When I was 15 or 16 I started shooting oxycontin and dilaudid. Then I went to heroin. I was a functional addict until about the age of 23, then everything went to hell with the arrests and prison. I am currently on the methadone clinic, but my mind always goes back to injecting heroin and eventually do. I have had so many friends die in my life due to our using. I have died twice but was in a hospital and brought back. My life feels like a living hell, and I want it to end. Not trying to sound all tragic but this life style IS NOT FUN, and I dont like being considered a criminal for the way my brain works. I cannot function without opiates. sometimes I wish I would die for good, but I want to get back into my career choice of programming which I have been unemployeed for 4 years from. So I dont think I can do anything great for a job
 

Ether_Snake

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If they did in US what they do in other countries for heroin/opiate users, to provide free or cheap weekly payments in a safe environment. it would help those people have steady lives. As a person who has suffered from opiate addicted since birth(methadone baby) I have felt trapped my entire life. My brain will never be recovered its hardwired this way. So I am a criminal for a choice I didn't initially make. Once they weened me off methadone I had birth defect a vascular tumor. I had an average of four surgeries a year until the age of ten. So I always had codeine available. then when the surgeries stopped I would steal hydrocodone from family/friends houses, and phsyically hurt myself on purpose breaking bones to get the opiates. When I was 15 or 16 I started shooting oxycontin and dilaudid. Then I went to heroin. I was a functional addict until about the age of 23, then everything went to hell with the arrests and prison. I am currently on the methadone clinic, but my mind always goes back to injecting heroin and eventually do. I have had so many friends die in my life due to our using. I have died twice but was in a hospital and brought back. My life feels like a living hell, and I want it to end. Not trying to sound all tragic but this life style IS NOT FUN, and I dont like being considered a criminal for the way my brain works. I cannot function without opiates. sometimes I wish I would die for good, but I want to get back into my career choice of programming which I have been unemployeed for 4 years from. So I dont think I can do anything great for a job

Wow that sounds difficult! You're in the US? Is there any help provided by the state?
 

XenodudeX

Junior Member
Don't punish the ones that are addicted. Help them.

The drug dealers though, they can go to jail and stay there.
 

shira

Member
Is rehabilitation the first measure for addicts?

If they did in US what they do in other countries for heroin/opiate users, to provide free or cheap weekly payments in a safe environment. it would help those people have steady lives. As a person who has suffered from opiate addicted since birth(methadone baby) I have felt trapped my entire life. My brain will never be recovered its hardwired this way. So I am a criminal for a choice I didn't initially make. Once they weened me off methadone I had birth defect a vascular tumor. I had an average of four surgeries a year until the age of ten. So I always had codeine available. then when the surgeries stopped I would steal hydrocodone from family/friends houses, and phsyically hurt myself on purpose breaking bones to get the opiates. When I was 15 or 16 I started shooting oxycontin and dilaudid. Then I went to heroin. I was a functional addict until about the age of 23, then everything went to hell with the arrests and prison. I am currently on the methadone clinic, but my mind always goes back to injecting heroin and eventually do. I have had so many friends die in my life due to our using. I have died twice but was in a hospital and brought back. My life feels like a living hell, and I want it to end. Not trying to sound all tragic but this life style IS NOT FUN, and I dont like being considered a criminal for the way my brain works. I cannot function without opiates. sometimes I wish I would die for good, but I want to get back into my career choice of programming which I have been unemployeed for 4 years from. So I dont think I can do anything great for a job
Are you saying rehab didn't work for you?
It kind of sounds like you have given up or you are convinced it will never work.
 
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“I think globally we’re seeing a real shift in terms of public opinion and a recognition that addiction should be treated more as a health issue rather than a criminal justice issue.”

should go well. telling america how to deal with their health issues always goes well.
 
If it makes sense, don't expect the government to cooperate.

Too much public ignorance and stupidity to expect much progress on this liberal issue. People still associate drug use with such negativity that I don't anticipate getting rid of the "war" anytime soon.

If they did in US what they do in other countries for heroin/opiate users, to provide free or cheap weekly payments in a safe environment. it would help those people have steady lives. As a person who has suffered from opiate addicted since birth(methadone baby) I have felt trapped my entire life. My brain will never be recovered its hardwired this way. So I am a criminal for a choice I didn't initially make. Once they weened me off methadone I had birth defect a vascular tumor. I had an average of four surgeries a year until the age of ten. So I always had codeine available. then when the surgeries stopped I would steal hydrocodone from family/friends houses, and phsyically hurt myself on purpose breaking bones to get the opiates. When I was 15 or 16 I started shooting oxycontin and dilaudid. Then I went to heroin. I was a functional addict until about the age of 23, then everything went to hell with the arrests and prison. I am currently on the methadone clinic, but my mind always goes back to injecting heroin and eventually do. I have had so many friends die in my life due to our using. I have died twice but was in a hospital and brought back. My life feels like a living hell, and I want it to end. Not trying to sound all tragic but this life style IS NOT FUN, and I dont like being considered a criminal for the way my brain works. I cannot function without opiates. sometimes I wish I would die for good, but I want to get back into my career choice of programming which I have been unemployeed for 4 years from. So I dont think I can do anything great for a job

Sorry to hear this. It sounds awful.
 

BPRD

Banned
I have been in 6 long term rehabs(starting at 15) and also lived in 2 half way houses(1 for seven months, the other over a year.) All the doctors I see trained in the field have basically said I am going to need to be on methadone the rest of my life, or withdraw with buprenorphine. I have tried numerous buprenorphine withdraws, but I was back on methadone or heroin usually within a week. One time after a 6month buprenorphine withdraw I stayed off all opiates for 2months, though I was given xanax to cope. During that time I did not leave the apartment for 2 months(literally) I would not talk to anyone and just generally unable to deal, I was having constant panic attacks where I would have to take another xanax, and pray for it to stop. I felt agoraphobic. shaking and crying I went and begged for more heroin, and life went back to normal in a single shot... /=
I am funded by DARS which is a program in texas that pays my medication, doctor bills, and gives me 75 dollars a week to live off of until I find employment. I got off of parole in june, and have stuck strictly to the methadone. I mostly do not want to shoot anymore because I am out of veins.I have to inject it into my penis or neck if I am lucky, it usually takes about 20minutes to find place and blood is everywhere and I am sore in those spots for a month afterward. A shitty side effect is poor circulation, my limbs fall asleep constantly, I have to take meds for my HEP C or I turn yellow from jaundice within some time. and I have induced parkinsons, not to sound rude but i look/talk like michael j fox(for reference sorry.) people are constantly asking me why I am shaking I tell them I had too much coffee or I am nervous(but thats not really believable because the level of shaking) people think I am going into a seizure a lot of the time. this makes it REALLY hard to get a job when I am shaking and stuttering and slurring everything. my city also has sliding scale payment health clinics. which for most who go there is free. and I eat/get my clothes from a church that takes care of the homeless where I spend most of my time anyway. I dont believe in god, but the people who work at that church are the greatest so I will never knock religion I attend NA/AA 5 times a week still just to be around people who know what its like to go through this, and not just scream at me JUNKIE. the prejudice against addicts is STRONG and heartbreaking cuz I never did a violent thing or robbed for drugs. im out sweating my ass off in the texas heat trying to make every extra cent I have selling sunglasses, or bottled waters on the corner. I thank god I have funding through DARS or I would be back out on the street or dead, or being with men or women for money when I dont like sex of anykind
 
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