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Capcom: We're learning tons from Slant Six, actively seeking more Western collabs
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AgentChris
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I can totally see Capcom buying Slant Six.
Naked Prime
Member
So what exactly did Capcom learn?
No, they were different games altogether. The PSP game was just a concept. There was never anything developed for it, and it's probably not going to happen in any capacity.
Oh, I know it never much existed in a form past that logo. But given Slant Six is a studio who has made PSP games, it was supposedly a departure for the series, and the Japanese didn't know about it made it seem to fit ORC.
True, true. But capcom dismissed any connections between the projects in an interview awhile back.
They actually hinted at this recently:
Source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-09-01-capcom-aggressively-seeking-overseas-partnershipsGamesIndustry.biz said:
IC_Champion
Member
Capcom is trying too much with this teaming up, acquisition and eventual monopolization of Western game developers. It is so laughable its like Capcom is Lexcorp and ends up getting greedy and end up getting owned by Bruce Wayne.
Next thing you'll know, not only will they buy Slant Six after ORC ships, but also NT after DmC.
Good job Capcom.
Next thing you'll know, not only will they buy Slant Six after ORC ships, but also NT after DmC.
Good job Capcom.
I wouldn't be surprised if they just decided to openly deny it via interview, even if it were true. Capcom has taken back what they say in interviews on repeated occasions.
Crash Station
Member
If South Park proves they can do a good turn-based RPG, I'll be 100% fine with this. Better than them not doing one at all. Would hope Capcom still does the art internally or something.
Sure. I wouldn't be surprised if they did, really. If it had any other ideas going with the concept, that is.
Dacon
Banned
That they prefer paying other people to make their games instead of doing it themselves.
Tho, tbh they've probably felt that way since DR2.
IC_Champion
Member
I don't think they learned or want to learn anything.
Their business motto: "There's a buck to be had"
They will keep rehashing sequels, charge the DLC after the product has come out, and make rapid updates to their fighting franchises.
Yes siree, business as usual.
rockman zx
Member
Mega Man 11 developed by "insert random western developer".
BeautifulMemory
Member
His name is Solid/Naked Snake, created by one badass Japanese mofo
Capcom's got this backwards, like ass backwards
edit: well, maybe not bearded, but close enough. Reading stuff from Capcom makes me rage
Dacon
Banned
Well that's a fancy way of saying multi platform.
CountAntonius
Member
Learn from Reverge labs(Skullgirls) Please.
It is the super turbo interview - graciously sold at a lower price.
To this day I still wonder why Capcom put Jean Reno in Onimusha...
You mean they should start using ugly and unappealing art styles in their fighting games too?
You mean they should start using ugly and unappealing art styles in their fighting games too?
Slamtastic
Member
They put Jean Reno in because they wanted a real life famous European actor to complement their famous Japanese actor.
And as for Skullgirls' artstyle, it's not for everyone, but I certainly don't think there's anything innately ugly about it. Different strokes for different folks. The same thing can be said for SFIV or SFxT.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
Me too my friend, me too.
Still less revolting than Skullgirls. Although you're kinda right, SFxT looks awful too... Guess they're learning in the end
There's kind of a catch-22 Japanese developers are facing.
The first problem they have is that they have huge issues staffing people who can make leading HD games in Japan, and even when they do, they often run into major development problems (see Metal Gear Rising, Versus, Final Fantasy XIII, The Last Guardian, Gran Turismo 5, and more), or they can end up with poor sales even when things go well (Lost Planet 2 was a recent major burn for Capcom in particular, and that team had a lot of major staff, and now they expect Dragon's Dogma to do pretty poorly as well).
On the other hand, if they want to outsource, basically all the major Western developers are taken, so choices are extremely limited.
Since Capcom is a public company, they have to do all of this under the pressure to grow their sales every year.
This basically means they need to find a bunch of resources to output a large amount of console games per year as well as gaining new franchises to avoid killing their current ones with extreme milking.
Capcom has said they can only handle about 2-3 large titles at a time internally, and those games often have 3+ year development cycles. If they also want new IPs, and no longer trust Western developers to make them for them, their only option is to hand off their existing IPs.
I mean, I like making fun out of Capcom a lot, but I can see how they have gotten in the situation they're currently in.
Their best option was to set up Western studios around a decade ago as well as training their staff on all the latest technology constantly, but hindsight is always 20/20.
Servizio
I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
Kinda surprised at the negative response here. My first reaction to the title was something like 'Anything that helps change their management style to something that can actually handle HD era titles.'
But this doesn't necessarily imply that, does it. Hm.
But this doesn't necessarily imply that, does it. Hm.
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ZombieFred
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Clearly the winner in Japan for western collaboration from reading this and reflecting on studios, IPs, and sales has got to be Square. Crazy to think they 1 uped Capcom on this when Capcom was doing extremely well in the first two thirds of this generation so far, and how Square suffered for their terrible production line and will have that all resolved internally by 2012/13.
True, but that'll look nicer on the box.
BeautifulMemory
Member
The same company that thinks Ninja Theory is a AAA studio on action games
pssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh
blitzcloud
Banned
This threads needs the smh SH3 old bearded guy replying to the statement of cultural differences, lol.
Prime Blue
Member
I don't think so at all. If they really liked the cooperation with Slant Six, they would be overwhelmingly positive about it on every occasion. So far, the producer has only said that their work ethic is very different and that they could learn something from them. But seeing the game, which is obviously still very unpolished a mere three months before the release, I don't think Capcom will ever work with them again.
They're a somewhat small studio, but they're hiring eight people including an HR generalist, which suggests they expect to be hiring a lot of people soon.
Generally you don't do that as an independent developer unless you have a lot of work lined up.
Perhaps they have contracts lined up with someone else, but if Capcom is buying them, presumably they want to grow them as well.
CountAntonius
Member
More so the no combat mechanic/gemless type of gameplay.
beat
Member
Canadian studios' work/life balance can be all over the place. Some are grind-em-out death march type places and others are impressively low on OT.
I have no knowledge of where Slant Six falls on that spectrum, though.
Yeah, that.
The Take Out Bandit
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rockman zx
Member
Well, maybe is balance between a competent/cheap studio, there are many studios better than those that's for sure.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Yeah, make more all-girl fighting games with 8 characters only.
Those seem REAL popular with the fighting game community.
smh
RobotRocker
Member
Yeah, I mean. That was a complete disaster for Nintendo. I mean, handing over a beloved franchise that hadn't seen a new game in years to Retro Studios? Turok developers? What on earth were they thinking? God, I can't imagine why Capcom would want to copy such a ruinous model of development that's lead to nothing but pain.
Thank god Nintendo saw sense and handed Metroid back to Team Ninja. Japanese games should stay Japanese, clearly.
yurinka
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They are very happy with Dead Rising 2 and Bionic Commando Rearmed results.
Don't be intentionally obtuse. I'm sure he's referring to the objectively positive aspects of its gameplay/development such as the incredibly honest and open dialogue the developers are having with the FGC.