People actually arguing about 30fps not mattering... 30fps should be the bare minimum required for all games. Why does Dead Rising 3 get a pass? Every other Xbox One demo has been solid in the frame rate department. There is no excuse and if this game comes out not locked at 30 it will be because both Microsoft and Capcom didn't care.
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Capcom: "We're targeting 30fps"; working with MS to improve Dead Rising 3
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speed3freak
Banned
This is exactly what happened. This game was in development for the 360 and not too long ago they began the process of porting it to the One as a launch title.
Darth Tigris
Member
No, it doesn't. It means what she said.
That's my point. This is semantics spun negative because of console wars. *sigh*
shinobi602
Member
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
The main issue is that it doesn't look visually anything above and beyond current gen. That's not to say it looks bad. But if the graphics are unspectacular, at least lock down a smooth framerate.
Moon_frogger
Member
Haha apparently every movie and tv show I've ever watched is 'a fucking slideshow'. Haha.
Also jumping down capcoms throat over a demo of a game that isn't out for 3 months. Jeez you guys are vicious.
Also jumping down capcoms throat over a demo of a game that isn't out for 3 months. Jeez you guys are vicious.
Soul Destroyer
Banned
Theres nothing wrong with 30 FPS considering the amount of fidelity and zombies etc they want to have on screen.
I'm sure i saw a post on here saying there was thousands? of zombies on screen.
However it's kinda worrying that they say they are "targeting" 30FPS. Does that mean that they are struggling to get it there or is it just poor wording.
I'm sure i saw a post on here saying there was thousands? of zombies on screen.
However it's kinda worrying that they say they are "targeting" 30FPS. Does that mean that they are struggling to get it there or is it just poor wording.
I am very glad that I don't have super sensitive eyes, or whatever it is that results in hyperbole like this:
I can't imagine how much it must suck to not be able to enjoy games like TLOU or GTAV because they aren't 60fps. This is the only game I really, really want on XB1 right now. Titanfall looks good, but I'll grab that on PC if I get it.
I can't imagine how much it must suck to not be able to enjoy games like TLOU or GTAV because they aren't 60fps. This is the only game I really, really want on XB1 right now. Titanfall looks good, but I'll grab that on PC if I get it.
DragonSworne
Banned
Capcom should consider other hardware if they want to make the game run better.
May I suggest all those who are satisfied with 30FPS but still calling this game out just wait for the full game to come out before saying things like "it's unacceptable".
This is a pre-release demo (alpha?). The good news is the content seems there. The last few months of development are focused on optimization anyway. Poor choice of wording which allowed this thread to explode when it shouldn't have aside, 30FPS is perfectly fine should they hit it. Judge them when its actually out.
This is a pre-release demo (alpha?). The good news is the content seems there. The last few months of development are focused on optimization anyway. Poor choice of wording which allowed this thread to explode when it shouldn't have aside, 30FPS is perfectly fine should they hit it. Judge them when its actually out.
Look up my posts in the various TLOU threads. Yes, the framerate problems killed my interest in the game. The early portions looked sub-Zelda 64 level in many areas in terms of framerate.
That's some bullshit hyperbole, right there.
Either the code is poorly optimized or someone needs to dial back the on-screen zombies a tad or maybe both - either way I'm not going to be impressed by games running on tech like XBone or PS4 with sub 30fps : there's just no reason for that outside bad development even allowing for early releases.
Miles Quaritch
Member
It's Blue Castle, it won't be locked to 30. That's nothing more than wishful thinking. It'll be 30 during the lulls with low 20s during the more hectic moments.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Neogaf: Devs, don't tell me the truth unless it's truth I want to hear!!!
I don't think anyone misinterpreted that, no one will breathe a sigh of relief if the game happens to hit 30 FPS ever so often.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
E3 or gamescom demo?
NullPointer
Member
Yeah.
"We're targeting playable."
If that truth holds the door ajar to the possibility of sub-30fps then yes, its not a truth worth talking about. Not unless you want the audience to wince and wonder what the hell is going on.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Same demo isn't it?
I thought saying what you were targeting was in vogue at the moment, this season's black.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
What the hell?
No they need to see the shit hit the fan before hand so hopefully they can do what they need to get it there (add more people to dev team or delay). Anything but releasing a rushed subpar launch game.
velociraptor
Junior Member
No. It simply proves MS are rushing DR3 to launch when the game clearly needs more dev time.
Marty Chinn
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Triggerhappytel
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Boss Man
Member
Is "Feel of 60 FPS" a joke now?
Makes me feel bad man. I can't really tell if a game is 30 or 60 FPS by looking at it, but I can definitely tell while playing. That's not coming from a person who is big into framerate differences or anything either, it's just kind of a bullet point to me.
Makes me feel bad man. I can't really tell if a game is 30 or 60 FPS by looking at it, but I can definitely tell while playing. That's not coming from a person who is big into framerate differences or anything either, it's just kind of a bullet point to me.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
I'm not denying the devs may be technically sub-par, but at least they aren't sugar-coating anything. Damned if you do, damned if you don't I guess.
Yeah, up until now no one has seen the game performing poorly and developers haven't been assuring people during the recent gameplay demonstrations that the framerate will be smoothed out by launch.
shinobi602
Member
No, it clearly means they are trying to achieve 30fps, they're targeting that. If they were already at a solid 30fps, they wouldn't even need to mention it. They'd just say "we're at a solid 30fps".
Check all the demos, framerate issues galore. Why else would they say people's problems with the performance are "understandable"? If it was a straight 30fps, they wouldn't say Microsoft keeps helping them to achieve a good framerate. Come on dude.
Christ, calm down.
NullPointer
Member
Well its not just a matter of what they're sharing, but also the consideration of 30fps as a goal or aspiration rather than a bare minimum baseline. To say the target is 30fps indicates that they haven't reached that goal and implies that they may not reach that goal.
Extra Sauce
Member
IMO Microsoft gimped a whole generation of games with their HDless Xbox 360 SKUs, and now I fear they're about to fuck the industry again by forcing most dev teams to work with the Xbox One's arguably inferior horsepower in mind.
NullPointer
Member
Fear will keep the systems in line.
Inferior to Xbox 360?!
You must be right. Dead Rising 1 and 2 just weren't possible on Xbox 360, so why they thought they could succeed at making a sequel in a similar vein on a machine with '10 times' the power is clearly stupid.
Monumental
Banned
The trolling and hate for 30 fps, good lord you guys must hate KIllzone and #Driveclub.
On the other hand, when there are thousands of zombies on screen and there is noticeable slowdown in Dead Rising 3. Like any other game, they need to optimize is or hell even cut back a little to make it a locked 30fps. No ones gonna notice if there were 800 zombies or 650 zombies. Lock it down.
On the other hand, when there are thousands of zombies on screen and there is noticeable slowdown in Dead Rising 3. Like any other game, they need to optimize is or hell even cut back a little to make it a locked 30fps. No ones gonna notice if there were 800 zombies or 650 zombies. Lock it down.
look at all that salt for 90% of multiplatform games being better on the 360.
This is what I was thinking. Just cut back on the zombies. All the footage I've seen shows a stupid, unnecessary amount of them. Drop the number in half and we should be good to go.
Estocolmo
Member
I havent seen a single hyperbole to this yet.
If they make the zombies less rotten will that improve performance?
Perhaps save a few polygons by making sure every single zombie has 2+ limbs missing.
The other thing they could do is make it a little more post apocalyptic and smear the screen in dust and fog!
I could be a games designer!
shinobi602
Member
Have you read any other posts here?
reynal1287
Member
30 fps is fine. Game looks fun as hell.