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[ivysaur12]

I actually like Amanda now, despite her being a bit annoying like you say and repetitive, as it's the only character that has actually been explained. A lot of my frustration with Caprica is down to how little we feel we actually know the characters or their motives. It's spent so much time jumping around between different characters, plotlines and V Worlds that there's been precious little character development. Unlike BSG which did that brilliantly in the beginning.

The best bit of character development was in the episode where Amanda and Daniel did the TV interview, which is also my favourite episode so far. It was a lot more focussed, which is what the show needs.

Yeah, that was my favorite episode as well. However, I am hoping that this episode that the show in a much needed directional change. It was sort of lying flat beyond some highs.

Ok yeah, those are pretty minor. Although does the word "Greystones" imply that Amanda is alive. I assumed she would but that seems to give it away.

Glad to hear that Sam will have a larger role and that Larry will get some more face time.

Agreed. Sam is badass. And the world needs more gay mobster BAMFs.

Also, more Willie. And Clarice needs to stop getting high and start doing shit (which I assume she will now). I wonder how much of her friendship with Amanda was real?

 

[Slightly Live]

Ok yeah, those are pretty minor. Although does the word "Greystones" imply that Amanda is alive. I assumed she would but that seems to give it away.

Glad to hear that Sam will have a larger role and that Larry will get some more face time.

Heck no, there's no way in hell you can believe the plural is implicating whether or not Amanda survives.

We know Zoe, in some form, stays around (series main character) so could be a "reference" to her and her father or there may be even more Greystone family members we have to see.

It's anything but a definite yes/no about Amanda.

 

[ivysaur12]

I hope she does die. Not because I necessarily want her to, but it would ruin a beautifully done scene.

 

[Slightly Live]

Here is a deleted scene from "End of Line," with Zoe and Lacy in V World

 

[Siebzehn50]

Well even if that isn't an indication I'm pretty sure she isn't dead. Maybe she is, but I just don't see them doing that so quickly.

 

[Spotless Mind]

On further rumination, i think Amanda miraculously surviving the fall seems like direction they'll go. It will play into the whole God orchestrating things angle and it has definitely been alluded to Amanda having some higher purpose with her visions and all.

I'll also echo the sentiment that we need more Sam. I'm sure he'll have a bigger role to play in the back half.

I agree with some of your complaints Deckard, particularly the urgent need for 100,000 cylons and the lack of justification.

As for the God angle, i think you just have to accept it, given how BSG ended. It ain't going to change, since it has to remain consistent with what went down in that finale. I still think it was rather ballsy to outright confirm there was a higher power orchestrating things, despite the deus ex machina nature to the resolution of some subplots. I hope that the hand waving of "God did it!" is kept to a minimum in this show, although i certainly expect it to rear its head at some point.

 

[Drahcir]

It escapes me at the moment, but the scene in the beginning where Amanda is reading the news on that device pad and there is a report about the bridge. Didn't it say something about how no one has ever survived a jump from that bridge? Not saying she couldn't have survived, but I'm so intrigued as well especially when Amanda did in fact turn out to be such a fascinating character. You also can't help but think can anyone really die in Caprica when they can be recreated in avatar form?

 

[Stahsky]

So I've pretty much ignored this show entirely, but I've watched the entire series of BSG. Is this on the same level of awesome?

 

[Costanza]

So I've pretty much ignored this show entirely, but I've watched the entire series of BSG. Is this on the same level of awesome?

Personally I think it's way better.

 

[Stahsky]

I just felt the whole survival aspect of BSG to be just too damn addicting. I just wanted to see how it ended and kept watching like a nut.

Explosions and fights were cool, but that's hardly what I'd call a strong point in that show.

 

[DECK'ARD]

So I've pretty much ignored this show entirely, but I've watched the entire series of BSG. Is this on the same level of awesome?

I think it's all going to rest on the second-half of the season.

The ingredients are there (arguably too many of them though), but it's if it pulls them together effectively. It certainly has the visual style and music going for it, which are great, but the main plotline has barely progressed/got lost amongst a sea other other plotlines. Also, of the characters only Amanda has really been fleshed out as well so far and given backstory. We hardly know the rest of them or understand their motives, character development is lacking compared to how strongly BSG got started in that regard. Caprica has been jumping around too much to allow it.

So looking forward to it's return, but at the same time worried about where it's going to go. Mainly because of the whole Cylons didn't turn out to have a plan / Angels / God lurking in the background hangovers from BSG.

Caprica could go either way from here.

 

[Stahsky]

Hmm, alright I'll give it a rinse this weekend and see how it feels. Thanks.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Really now? I think you are overestimating the amount of character development present in the first season of BSG, or really just the first nine episodes for a fair comparison.

No, the main characters in BSG were firmly established in just the miniseries. Adama, Roselin, Lee, Starbuck, Baltar. We quickly understood their role, their strengths, weaknesses. Mainly because we had a clear idea of what was going on, what they were up against, so their roles fitted into play far easier. Roselin finding herself in the role of President was especially REALLY well done, and established her as a very strong character right off the bat.

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From the very beginning of Caprica with someone blowing themselves up with no explanation the context of what is going on hasn't been properly explained so how the characters react and what their motives are is also hard to understand and therefore hard to get to know them.

Amanda made very little sense at all until her backstory was given, the TV interview episode was the only one so far that stayed focussed on character development.

Beliefs/motives of the STO have barely been touched on, you are just asked to accept that this terrorist organisation is going around blowing things up with no understanding of why they feel justified in doing that.

Clarice is all over the place, anti-violence one minute then pistol-whipping Barnabus the next. Barnabus being another character who has just popped up and then wants to kill Clarice with no real backstory behind it all. You have a feud in a terrorist organisation which we haven't been given any understanding of as one of the main plotlines. You'd think after the first thing we see is someone blowing themselves up a priority would be to explain what drove someone to do that.

Instead even the investigation of the bombing was dropped overnight, despite them suddenly having confessions and evidence a plenty. At the moment all the STO is really is a nice logo and precious little more.

Joseph spent the entire season like a lost puppy wandering around the Matrix until finding his daughter and then getting shot.

William Adama has been completely ignored.

Sam just pops up to kill someone or say he's gay.

Daniel considering he's meant to be a genius seems to be incredibly stupid at working things out. We also haven't even been told WHY the Government requires a ridiculous 100,000 cylons, which is the core storyline. That's basic stuff. If we knew that we could get a better handle on Daniel's morals etc.

Character development has not been Caprica's strongpoint so far, mainly because they've given themselves no time to do it by jumping around so much between characters, ever-changing plotlines, and V Worlds. That's why I think it's very important in the second-half of the season that they get more focussed, advance the story, and flesh-out the characters or it will just end up creating more and more questions.

 

[The Storyteller]

I'm not really feeling Joseph as the new Lee (or the original Lee, as it were). I hope the writers have a destination for his character arc in mind, and I hope it doesn't take them three whole seasons to get there this time around.

Well, they set him up to be this lawyer prodigy in BSG, so I guess they have that to show. But yes, please dont become another Lee.

As for the God angle, i think you just have to accept it, given how BSG ended. It ain't going to change, since it has to remain consistent with what went down in that finale. I still think it was rather ballsy to outright confirm there was a higher power orchestrating things, despite the deus ex machina nature to the resolution of some subplots. I hope that the hand waving of "God did it!" is kept to a minimum in this show, although i certainly expect it to rear its head at some point.

The whole Deus ex Machina aside, I liked the way they handled God in the finale (better planning and set up would've made it stronger), the consequent whining from the staunch atheists only made me like it more.

Sam just pops up to kill someone or say he's gay.

The fuck?

He's not in it much, yes. But he does neither of those things. Unless you consider referencing your loved one (who happens to be male too!) counts as saying you're gay (which he apparently does all the time!). yeah....
And we havent seen him kill someone on screen since the pilot.

 

[Spotless Mind]

It felt a bit ballsy because the deus ex machina plot device rarely involves a God being lowered onto the stage in such a literal manner anymore. :lol

Haha, yeah. I still can't believe they went there in such an overt way. I've grown to accept it, even though i still have reservations.

The fuck?

He's not in it much, yes. But he does neither of those things. Unless you consider referencing your loved one (who happens to be male too!) counts as saying you're gay (which he apparently does all the time!). yeah....
And we havent seen him kill someone on screen since the pilot.

Reminds me of some Doctor Who posts. "Oh noes! There were gay characters in this episode! Why won't Russel T Davies stop pushing his homosexual agenda on me?!" :lol

 

[Lafiel]

The whole Deus ex Machina aside, I liked the way they handled God in the finale (better planning and set up would've made it stronger), the consequent whining from the staunch atheists only made me like it more.

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Personally, i'm religious, and i still had issues with how they handled "god" in the finale of BSG. The bolded is correct though, better planning and set-up would have made it a lot better.

 

[Carlisle]

Maybe someone can help me understand one thing that bugs me between BSG and Caprica concerning the origin of the Cylons. I started watching BSG about 6 months ago and just caught up through Caprica the other day. I watched it all pretty much on my own, so no one to discuss plot points with or anything... So please forgive if this has been discussed at length already.

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From what we know based on the BSG and Caprica premise, Cylons were created by man... The Centurions. They rebelled, had a war, disappeared for 40 years. During this time they evolved into more advanced Centurions and even built new models that look like people. Right?

But in the later episodes of BSG, they're saying that it was the final 5 Cylons, who were from an Earth full of Cylons thousands of years ago, who built the modern 'skinjobs.' Kinda contradictory there... And who built the final 5 and all those Cylons that populated the Cylon Earth?

Was this ever directly addressed or just explained away with 'All this has happened before and will happen again...'? So far, pre-Season 4 BSG and Caprica seem pretty much on the same level with that, but the end of BSG seems to change all that thinking. Did I miss something?

 

[Slightly Live]

Maybe someone can help me understand one thing that bugs me between BSG and Caprica concerning the origin of the Cylons. I started watching BSG about 6 months ago and just caught up through Caprica the other day. I watched it all pretty much on my own, so no one to discuss plot points with or anything... So please forgive if this has been discussed at length already.

Spoiler

From what we know based on the BSG and Caprica premise, Cylons were created by man... The Centurions. They rebelled, had a war, disappeared for 40 years. During this time they evolved into more advanced Centurions and even built new models that look like people. Right?

But in the later episodes of BSG, they're saying that it was the final 5 Cylons, who were from an Earth full of Cylons thousands of years ago, who built the modern 'skinjobs.' Kinda contradictory there... And who built the final 5 and all those Cylons that populated the Cylon Earth?

Was this ever directly addressed or just explained away with 'All this has happened before and will happen again...'? So far, pre-Season 4 BSG and Caprica seem pretty much on the same level with that, but the end of BSG seems to change all that thinking. Did I miss something?

Spoiler

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Final_Five

 

[Danthrax]

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Personally, i'm religious, and i still had issues with how they handled "god" in the finale of BSG. The bolded is correct though, better planning and set-up would have made it a lot better.

I dunno, I think they set up God as being behind the scenes since the pilot. The finale made sense to me.

 

[Lafiel]

I dunno, I think they set up God as being behind the scenes since the pilot. The finale made sense to me.

It was only until the finale that they acknowledged his existence. Dunno, the whole finale might have worked better if they acknowledged it earlier.

 

[Lafiel]

That's not really true. It's just that you have to take Head Six at her word that she's an angel of god sent there to protect Baltar, which she says at least a few times throughout the show. Personally, I have more of a problem with the way they portray religion in this canon as being nothing more than monotheism vs. polytheism (what, no buddhism or hinduism? paganism? animism?) than the fact that they established the definitive existence of god in the universe of the show(s). The latter I can buy as it's fiction, after all; the former is just annoyingly simplistic.

Yeah, i agree with that, it's a small detail that's always bothered me. Especially since in the finale they attempted to connect

Spoiler

the BSG universe with ours

.:lol

 

[radioheadrule83]

http://wgtclsp.syfy.com/o/48e10f5e9...10f5e9dbb50aa/eea4d8ee/-cpid/69bce11289c000fe

For those who haven't seen the Season 1.5 promo

 

[DECK'ARD]

Your perspective is so reductionist it's ridiculous. "X character only pops up to do Y" is the equivalent of "all I do in this game is mash buttons!" Well, sure, you can strip anything down to its basics and make it sound stupid. Amanda made little sense? Really? You think freaking out over your daughter being a terrorist doesn't make sense? Sam has been underutilized, but you didn't even get his basic function right. Oh noes, he's gay and he killed some dudes, that must be the whole point of his character...

I honestly don't think backstory is ever necessary, personally, given that it usually just tells me things about a character that I could have figured out based on their actions in the present, and that's not really any different with Amanda. What happened to her brother is more of a parallel to what happened to Zoe than a way to establish motivations anyhow. To me, character development is putting characters in interesting situations, challenging them, showing us the dynamics of their interaction with other characters... and none of that requires backstory, which is usually just a stupid crutch writers use to tell us that X character had a bad childhood or whatever.

Also, the resolution to the Joe and Tamara plotline was perfectly satisfying, IMO: Joe has been falling further and further down the rabbit hole in the hopes that finding his daughter will somehow absolve him of his problems and fix the mess he's made of himself. Tamara, in the typically stupid and insensitive manner of a teenager, basically gives him exactly what he needs by forcing him out of the V-world (or at least New Cap City? I'm not exactly sure) and away from her. He can't use the stalking of his sort-of-dead daughter as a crutch anymore, and I for one count that as a forward movement.

The post was long enough already, sorry if summing things up so simply struck a nerve with you. But that is essentially what Sam's character was reduced to. A gay gangster to highlight how liberal the society had become (we also had Clarice and her multiple husbands for an episode to do the same thing), who kills (or is told to kill) people Joseph is unable/unwilling to.

He was going off on a more interesting role, showing William the 'true' Tauron way and looking after him as opposed to Joseph's 'weak' Tauron persona. But that was all abandoned, along with the character of William in general. Both characters have been essentially made redundant so far.

Amanda was a ridiculous character at the start, the loss of the daughter was not handled well. It was a good an opportunity to establish character as with Roselin and Adama in the beginning of BSG by how they reacted to it but it was all too messy, and Caprica as show jumping around too much to do so. Her speech proclaiming her daughter a terrorist in public was not only cheesy, but also came totally out of the blue and broke character. Which they then fixed retrospectively in following episodes to the point where she finally did make sense, and became about the only character with a perceptible depth to her.

The Joe/Tamara plotline, and V-World in general, was all padding. The (very basic) point it made didn't need to take 9 episodes to be told, and the climax of the whole encounter being so quick was just another example of plotlines just being started and ended for the sake of it. The Government investigation, dropped. Zoe/Philomon, dropped.

The plot wasn't developing the characters, characters were merely being flipped around to fit in with an ever increasing number of plotlines. Sometimes nonsensically.

Nearly all the first half season was padding, it feels like a miniseries dragged out into a series and suffers with pacing and direction as a result of it. I will continue to stick with it because the core storyline, which has almost got lost amongst everything else still interests me but Caprica is far from the heights of BSG at the moment. And tainted by the same problems that befell BSG in the end. It has a distinct making it up as we go along feel so far, and throwing things in just for the sake of it. Zoe-robot-truck-driving being the most extreme example of that to date.

When it returns I just hope it's more focussed, and creates a stronger central thread rather than weaving a lot of superfluous ones. So the characters can actually grow, and answers are given rather than just more and more questions.

 

[anaron]

http://wgtclsp.syfy.com/o/48e10f5e9...10f5e9dbb50aa/eea4d8ee/-cpid/69bce11289c000fe

For those who haven't seen the Season 1.5 promo

What the frak is coming up on this show. :O

 

[Danthrax]

The post was long enough already, sorry if summing things up so simply struck a nerve with you. But that is essentially what Sam's character was reduced to. A gay gangster to highlight how liberal the society had become (we also had Clarice and her multiple husbands for an episode to do the same thing), who kills (or is told to kill) people Joseph is unable/unwilling to.

He was going off on a more interesting role, showing William the 'true' Tauron way and looking after him as opposed to Joseph's 'weak' Tauron persona. But that was all abandoned, along with the character of William in general. Both characters have been essentially made redundant so far.

Amanda was a ridiculous character at the start, the loss of the daughter was not handled well. It was a good an opportunity to establish character as with Roselin and Adama in the beginning of BSG by how they reacted to it but it was all too messy, and Caprica as show jumping around too much to do so. Her speech proclaiming her daughter a terrorist in public was not only cheesy, but also came totally out of the blue and broke character. Which they then fixed retrospectively in following episodes to the point where she finally did make sense, and became about the only character with a perceptible depth to her.

The Joe/Tamara plotline, and V-World in general, was all padding. The (very basic) point it made didn't need to take 9 episodes to be told, and the climax of the whole encounter being so quick was just another example of plotlines just being started and ended for the sake of it. The Government investigation, dropped. Zoe/Philomon, dropped.

The plot wasn't developing the characters, characters were merely being flipped around to fit in with an ever increasing number of plotlines. Sometimes nonsensically.

Nearly all the first half season was padding, it feels like a miniseries dragged out into a series and suffers with pacing and direction as a result of it. I will continue to stick with it because the core storyline, which has almost got lost amongst everything else still interests me but Caprica is far from the heights of BSG at the moment. And tainted by the same problems that befell BSG in the end. It has a distinct making it up as we go along feel so far, and throwing things in just for the sake of it. Zoe-robot-truck-driving being the most extreme example of that to date.

When it returns I just hope it's more focussed, and creates a stronger central thread rather than weaving a lot of superfluous ones. So the characters can actually grow, and answers are given rather than just more and more questions.

stop bummin' me out on the show, man

you're bringin' down my high

Spoiler

I can't substantially refute anything you say in your posts, which is what bums me out. I'm hopeful the second half will be better, though.

 

[half a moon]

The post was long enough already, sorry if summing things up so simply struck a nerve with you. But that is essentially what Sam's character was reduced to. A gay gangster to highlight how liberal the society had become (we also had Clarice and her multiple husbands for an episode to do the same thing), who kills (or is told to kill) people Joseph is unable/unwilling to.

He was going off on a more interesting role, showing William the 'true' Tauron way and looking after him as opposed to Joseph's 'weak' Tauron persona. But that was all abandoned, along with the character of William in general. Both characters have been essentially made redundant so far.

Amanda was a ridiculous character at the start, the loss of the daughter was not handled well. It was a good an opportunity to establish character as with Roselin and Adama in the beginning of BSG by how they reacted to it but it was all too messy, and Caprica as show jumping around too much to do so. Her speech proclaiming her daughter a terrorist in public was not only cheesy, but also came totally out of the blue and broke character. Which they then fixed retrospectively in following episodes to the point where she finally did make sense, and became about the only character with a perceptible depth to her.

The Joe/Tamara plotline, and V-World in general, was all padding. The (very basic) point it made didn't need to take 9 episodes to be told, and the climax of the whole encounter being so quick was just another example of plotlines just being started and ended for the sake of it. The Government investigation, dropped. Zoe/Philomon, dropped.

The plot wasn't developing the characters, characters were merely being flipped around to fit in with an ever increasing number of plotlines. Sometimes nonsensically.

Nearly all the first half season was padding, it feels like a miniseries dragged out into a series and suffers with pacing and direction as a result of it. I will continue to stick with it because the core storyline, which has almost got lost amongst everything else still interests me but Caprica is far from the heights of BSG at the moment. And tainted by the same problems that befell BSG in the end. It has a distinct making it up as we go along feel so far, and throwing things in just for the sake of it. Zoe-robot-truck-driving being the most extreme example of that to date.

When it returns I just hope it's more focussed, and creates a stronger central thread rather than weaving a lot of superfluous ones. So the characters can actually grow, and answers are given rather than just more and more questions.

buzz killer

 

[anaron]

Show is moving to Tuesday nights starting October 1st.

To make room for "SmackDown," Syfy will more its Friday night line-up to Tuesday. "With Tuesday night, a proven winner for our original drama series including "Warehouse 13," there is bigger opportunity for series such as "Stargate Universe," "Sanctuary" and "Caprica" to thrive on a night with a significantly larger number of viewers available to watch live,” said Dave Howe, President, Syfy, in a statement.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

There is no opportunity for Stargate Universe because jesus damn that is the worst fucking show I've ever seen.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Show is moving to Tuesday nights starting October 1st.

as in, it's not canceled?

what are they waiting for?

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[Danthrax]

Original programming on a non-Friday weeknight during primetime?

It's cute that SciFi is pretending to be a big kids network.

 

[The Storyteller]

Good news, I guess? Or just news?

as in, it's not canceled?

what are they waiting for?

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We knew it wasn't cancelled (yet) already. Besides the show saw an increase in viewers as the weeks went by, instead of a decrease which is apparently not a common thing for Syfy originals. The mid season finale had close to the highest ratings yet, so it isn't all doom and gloom. That and syfy probably dont want to cancel the only thing that doesn't make them look like a complete joke to critics and well, everyone. I can see it being renewed for a second season, but after that, who knows.

There is no opportunity for Stargate Universe because jesus damn that is the worst fucking show I've ever seen

And Caprica is pulling in smilar number to this piece of crap which has been renewed for a second season.

Spoiler

Well this post was far too optimistic. I fail at talking about ratings for great tv shows.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I hear you.

it's just...it's been a very disappointing show. the only guy I feel is even likable is the gangster dude with the knives.

everyone else is annoying, or petty, or irritating, or bland. right down to the cheesy SFX.

show has shown it doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as BSG.

IMHO...Caprica should have been a 10-part mini-series event. I think whatever they were going for probably could have been told and wrapped up in a mini-series format. It probably would have been less dry and more powerful that way.

 

[radioheadrule83]

The V-World / Tamara story in the first half of the season seemed ill-thought out and had a poor mid-season conclusion, but I have a feeling it will seem a relevant beginning in future. Caprica only really started to pick up when they introduced the New Cap City story, with Barnabus starting to come in at the same time. I think had the show started sooner with those things and the Greystone Vs Vergis storyline, the show would have felt 100% less mopey and depressing. Now that we have some of those things in play, I'm looking forward to its return in October.

What airs on Tuesdays at the moment? Aside from Lost - which finishes soon ;_;

 

[Fallout-NL]

The pilot started out very interesting, with Eric Stolz figuring out AI. But then the show quickly degrades into some airhead high school girl talking about 'like robots and stuff'. I'm at episode 3, does it recover in any way or does it remain this terrible?

 

[Lafiel]

I'm kinda disappointed with the lukewarm reaction this show seems to be getting. I just recently caught up to the series. And i'm really ENJOYING it. It has some issues. (like BSG forth season) but it's best moments manage to overshadow them. It's easily the best sci-fic show, currently running now. Although that isn't saying much.:lol

The pilot started out very interesting, with Eric Stolz figuring out AI. But then the show quickly degrades into some airhead high school girl talking about 'like robots and stuff'. I'm at episode 3, does it recover in any way or does it remain this terrible?

I thought it got really good from episode 3 and onwards.

 

[The Storyteller]

show has shown it doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as BSG.

That I do not agree with. I'm enjoying it just as much, if not more than early BSG. It may be more flawed than early BSG, but Caprica has been heavily arc driven with plots that bleed into the next episode each week, whereas BSG season 1 was mostly standalones (that each added little bits to the main plot), Caprica's style of writing is open to a lot more criticism in my opinion, and is in general a harder style of writing.

I'm kinda disappointed with the lukewarm reaction this show seems to be getting. I just recently caught up to the series. And i'm really ENJOYING it. It has some issues. (like BSG forth season) but it's best moments manage to overshadow them. It's easily the best sci-fic show, currently running now. Although that isn't saying much.:lol

Yeah, the show so far certainly isn't without its problems, the plot is a little jumbled and there is a little too much going on at the same time and some of the characters are pushed to the side much to my annoyance (like Sam, Willie and the grandma). But I'm in love with the core ideas, most of the characters and the look/feeling of the entire show. And I think now that a lot of the set up is out of the way and they have a clearer idea of where the show is heading (I presume) the show can only get better.

The pilot started out very interesting, with Eric Stolz figuring out AI. But then the show quickly degrades into some airhead high school girl talking about 'like robots and stuff'. I'm at episode 3, does it recover in any way or does it remain this terrible?

Really? Really? Yeah, I'd say give it up, you're not gonna like it.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I hear you.

it's just...it's been a very disappointing show. the only guy I feel is even likable is the gangster dude with the knives.

everyone else is annoying, or petty, or irritating, or bland. right down to the cheesy SFX.

show has shown it doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as BSG.

IMHO...Caprica should have been a 10-part mini-series event. I think whatever they were going for probably could have been told and wrapped up in a mini-series format. It probably would have been less dry and more powerful that way.

They said from the start that Caprica was going to be nothing like BSG, it obvious was a risk but many of us are enjoying it. My wife ironically adores Caprica much more than BSG, while I'm a bit of the opposite. I'm still watching Caprica, find it intriguing though prefer BSG no doubt.

It may not be my cup of tea, but I don't see how it can be considered a bad show.

 

[Fallout-NL]

Really? Really? Yeah, I'd say give it up, you're not gonna like it.

Well, for instance, why do they constantly need to show Stolz's daughter in her human form instead of the robot she actually is (in the first few episodes at least). I find it really difficult to take the whole thing seriously when she's going on about how hard it is to be an AI, a person and a robot at the same time, while I'm looking at regular Zoe. It just seems a little ridiculous.

It would be nice if these shows could commit to their ideas for once.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Well, for instance, why do they constantly need to show Stolz's daughter in her human form instead of the robot she actually is (in the first few episodes at least). I find it really difficult to take the whole thing seriously when she's going on about how hard it is to be an AI, a person and a robot at the same time, while I'm looking at regular Zoe. It just seems a little ridiculous.

It would be nice if these shows could commit to their ideas for once.

Umm you don't think it would be an issue to have your consciousness put into a robot body? I would be more concerned if the show had put Zoe into the robot and acted like it was not an issue.

The whole Zoe/Robot flashing is purely stylistic in nature, one that I find pretty fun really. Seeing how they are following it through, I don't see how you can claim that they are not committed to it's ideas since they have yet to stray from the idea in the first place.

Really you just seem to not like what they have committed to actually, or refuse to accept it.

 

[mre]

I'm currently working my way through these episodes (I'm on episode 7 now), and I have a very real worry that this series is going to end with Edward James Olmos putting one of those holoband things on his head and then having the screen flash to the opening scene of BSG.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I'm currently working my way through these episodes (I'm on episode 7 now), and I have a very real worry that this series is going to end with Edward James Olmos putting one of those holoband things on his head and then having the screen flash to the opening scene of BSG.

...and then

Spoiler

hi-fiveing Jonathan Frakes leaving the holodeck at

the end of Enterprise

 

[mre]

...and then

Spoiler

hi-fiveing Jonathan Frakes leaving the holodeck

at the end of Enterprise

:lol

That, however, would be awesome.

Do we need to spoil that? It was 5 years ago...

 

[Danthrax]

I'm currently working my way through these episodes (I'm on episode 7 now), and I have a very real worry that this series is going to end with Edward James Olmos putting one of those holoband things on his head and then having the screen flash to the opening scene of BSG.

They... they wouldn't do that to us.





They wouldn't.

 

[DECK'ARD]

I'm currently working my way through these episodes (I'm on episode 7 now), and I have a very real worry that this series is going to end with Edward James Olmos putting one of those holoband things on his head and then having the screen flash to the opening scene of BSG.

Argh

 

[Vorg]

I'm currently working my way through these episodes (I'm on episode 7 now), and I have a very real worry that this series is going to end with Edward James Olmos putting one of those holoband things on his head and then having the screen flash to the opening scene of BSG.

Nah. I think it's more likely that

Spoiler

either Tamara or Zoe become the cylon god

at the end, or something like that.

 

[The Storyteller]

http://blastr.com/2010/07/caprica-returns-in-januar.php

Syfy announced it's going to air the second half of Caprica's first season starting in January 2011, with the exact date still TBA. The network also said a new trailer for the show will be unveiled at the Carprica Comic-Con panel on July 23 before it shows up on the Xbox Live and other platforms.

There are more details in the official press release, which is below:

New York, New York - July 21, 2010 - Syfy has announced the highly-anticipated return of critically-acclaimed series Caprica. The second half of season one premieres in January 2011 (date TBA), and kicks off with a thrilling pace as the citizens of Caprica deal with the chaotic aftermath of the mid-season finale's harrowing events.

In season 1.5, the once idyllic world of Caprica - as well as life across the colonies - falls prey to an explosive chain reaction of consequences set off by the characters' many questionable actions in the season's first half. Tensions rise, power shifts and the line between reality and the virtual world becomes increasingly blurred as everyone struggles to learn - and conquer - the stakes in this volatile setting. As the season races towards its stunning conclusion, events of each episode lay the framework for the inevitable (and brutal) clash between the newly-created Cylon race and their human creators.

An all-new trailer for season 1.5 will premiere at Caprica's Comic-Con panel on July 23, and before landing on Syfy.com, it will be available exclusively on Microsoft's Zune Marketplace on Xbox LIVE and Windows PCs through the Zune PC software available for free at www.zune.net. (July 26).

Caprica stars Eric Stoltz (Daniel Graystone), Paula Malcomson (Amanda Graystone), Esai Morales (Joseph Adama), Polly Walker (Sister Clarice Willow), Alessandra Torresani (Zoe Graystone), Magda Apanowicz (Lacy) and Sasha Roiz (Sam Adama).

Caprica is a prequel to the award-winning series Battlestar Galactica. The series is from Universal Cable Productions, and is executive produced by Ronald D. Moore and David Eick. Jonas Pate serves as co-executive producer and director.

January? JANUARY?!?! Fuck you Syfy.

 

[badcrumble]

http://blastr.com/2010/07/caprica-returns-in-januar.php



January? JANUARY?!?! Fuck you Syfy.

Gotta be eligible for as many award seasons as possible!

Just so you know, this also means that Season 2 proper won't begin until 2012, if there is a Season 2.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Gods Dammit!

 

[BattleMonkey]

The show is obviously not gonna get a season 2 at this point.

 

[heliosRAzi]

That counts as season 2 in my books