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Captain America: Civil War |OT| Finding Zemo
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Cuz she's hot right?
George Oscar Bluth II
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Everyone thirsting for Aunt May is the most unexpected thing to come out of the MCU.
ArtHands
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The one you said is the mid credit scene. There's a post credit scene involving
Spiderman
That skydiving scene was so terrific
Damn son.
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
At least from the trailers, it looks like the most drab setting you could have them fight.
Cap probably can.
Can't remember whose video but I recall a video about TWS that mentioned that Star Wars is on Cap's list of things to catch up on and how his mind would be blown upon seeing Mace Winduu in the prequels.
Implying that someone would suggest the prequels to him.
peanutbutterlatte
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Go back to the spoiler thread you black-bar touting jackasses. 27 hours and not getting spoiled now!
What did he mean by this?
Member
My friend said he watched a bootleg cam of the airport scene that leaked online. Why would someone ruin the bigscreen spectacle like that?
Not even the movie, just one out of context un-built up scene.
My friends and idiot
Not even the movie, just one out of context un-built up scene.
My friends and idiot
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I think its safe to say its at least one of the best CBM period.
ChasingComets
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Immediate Post-Movie impressions at the end of my 8 hours marvel marathon screening. I'm a little out of it and definitely need some more time to gather my thoughts but main things (with minor spoilers):
-airport scene is the greatest 17 minutes of geekdom
-Black panther had a purrrrrrfect intro to the MCU
-Spider-Man is SPECTACULAR
-Ant Man has the best lines in the movie
-Bucky has never been so Cool.
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-Drags on the first half but the whole show really comes together in the second half
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Objectively winter soldier has the better contained story, but when the show hits a high point, boy does it hit high. Russos really showed their talent for producing the best action of the marvel movies. (No small thanks to the John Wick folks.) Makes you really excited for what they might do with Infinity War.
-airport scene is the greatest 17 minutes of geekdom
-Black panther had a purrrrrrfect intro to the MCU
-Spider-Man is SPECTACULAR
-Ant Man has the best lines in the movie
-Bucky has never been so Cool.
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QUEENS (pure fanservice scene the movie would have done better without, but me and my friend was just gaping and freaking at the whole scene)
Being ironman is suffering. Tony is basically the punching bag of the entire MCU.
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really liked what they did with Zemo's motivations, even though he somewhat falls into genre trap of over-complicated plotting.
Objectively winter soldier has the better contained story, but when the show hits a high point, boy does it hit high. Russos really showed their talent for producing the best action of the marvel movies. (No small thanks to the John Wick folks.) Makes you really excited for what they might do with Infinity War.
That should go without saying.
Wikipedia has an official policy which states that they don't censor spoilers, so this is to be expected.
The spoiler landmines are only going to get harder to avoid.
Luckily, it's only just over a week left for the U.S. I think it should be able to make it.
I have a "the the fuck outta there" policy with anything that even looks or sounds like it might be even leading to a spoiler now.
Luckily, it's only just over a week left for the U.S. I think it should be able to make it.
I have a "the the fuck outta there" policy with anything that even looks or sounds like it might be even leading to a spoiler now.
broncobuster
Banned
Nah. While she is surprisingly attractive, Rosemary Harris and Sally Field played May a specific way. Tomei-May...Tomey. Sorry. She's spunkier and younger in mannerisms, not merely looks
That's how Wikipedia articles for movies work though.
Did this person edit details about the movie on unrelated pages?
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
edit: nvm
what the damn hell.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
I can't tell if you're joking. They only did that for the skinny Steve scenes pre-Serum.
... Oh what the hey, I'll laugh anyway.
Nah, Skinny Steve was just Evan's insane commitment to the role.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
lmao Sebastian Stan's face with The Covenant question
Alright let's see if I can formulate some more elaborate opinions.
When I brought up earlier that I feel like this was almost an elaborate apology to what was a horribly misguided comic book arc. The reason was that even though it proposed a sense of conflict it's that it was borderline impossible to sympathize with one side (Team Iron Man specifically) because his moral compass was completely whacked out. It felt like it dehumanized the character and my initial worry about this movie being billed as a "Captain America" movie was that it was never going to pan out in presenting a non-biased situation, because Captain America for the last movies he's been in had been established as a character that has the idealistic view point to aspire for.
Believe it or not I was legitimately shocked that this movie managed to humanize both elements of Steve and Tony in a way that make both their plights equally palpable, understandable and questionable. Both of them get a lot of due criticism in the movie from separate angles and it does not pull any punches in letting these characters know it. At the same time the movie still respects these characters enough to throw them a bone in what is a byzantine of moral values and what they're fueled by. It's a movie that explores the depths of how far two "figureheads" let their sympathies drive one another. It gets to explore the hints Cap laid the groundwork for in Age of Ultron but it also finds some interesting new revelations about Tony's emotional investment. To put it in a word; poignancy.
The final encounter eventually becomes somewhat emblematic of this and presents a really subversive take on the build-up for an overarching theme - one that has been needing an answer ever since Avengers. If that movie's plot hinged entirely on an audience created notion of whether or not the entire MCU "experiment" can actually be made into a movie, Civil War is the closest thing to what Avengers 2 should have been in that this movie tackles the question of how this can possibly go on. If you watch the movie with a sort of meta-textual awareness there are a whole lot of subtle details in the movie you might just catch that speak about it's own circumstance. Alongside that it manages to tell a story that uses a political question as less of it's main source of conflict, and more of a pretext to what is eventually going to be a skirmish fueled by ego, loyalty, personal vendettas and guilt.
This is the MCU finally being humble under it's own pretense, but not in a way that robs the inherently entertaining value of a movie. It's a blockbuster movie that manages to scatter emotional conflict as well as political conflict, and somehow make it work alongside what eventually becomes a fireworks display of geeky nostalgia and comic book reverence. It ticks off so many boxes on a tragicomedy checklist and manages to be joyful, sad and exhilarating at once, and it actually makes you think about the characters and what they're going through. A bunch of parallels that echo in the beginning come back in the end, every character plays off each other spectacularly, and there's an occasional level of irony in hindsight when comparing some events that the characters go through.
Speaking of characters this is definitely some of the most realized newcomers put on screen. Every character that's been in a movie prior, their qualities pretty much go without saying - and most of them have their very best moments in this movie. But Black Panther and Spider-Man stand out among the rest. Black Panther is going to create a lot of fans with this movie, the character stands as testament to the fact that serious does NOT mean dark. His mere presence is filled with intensity and nobility, and he even has a funny moment or two without the need of a quip. This is a straight up admirable character, a kind of character that the MCU has desperately needed. Spider-Man is someone I worried a lot about in more ways than one; especially the idea of introducing him in what is essentially someone else's movie, but it quickly becomes clear that this movie realizes origin stories for someone like this is pretty much pointless and through his scenes it becomes wonderfully clear how this was almost a note perfect way of re-introducing him to this particular world. He's the nerdy show-stealer that the previous two iterations consistently tried but could never fully achieve, and he's in a perfect position here to bounce off of everyone. He has easily the best action scenes in this movie, and while I was worried about the costume at first I now feel like after seeing it, it's the best Spidey costume so far. I can't wait to see his solo movie now and I pray that the deal holds together long enough so he can share the super smackdown screentime in Infinity War.
This movie definitely eclipsed The Winter Soldier in my eyes primarily because it is so much more evocative as a character piece, while also having a fantastic third act in comparison. It might just be in the echelons of best comic book movies. Subversive, thoughtful, fun, it's got pretty much everything you could ask for. The only movie I think I like more than this one in the MCU is Guardians of the Galaxy but it's such a close race. Right now, the Cap trilogy stands tall as what's easily the best comic book trilogy in movies, and this is a rare case where each subsequent movie has only gotten consistently better.
A poster here said earlier that a worry going onward is that the Russos might not be able to maintain such a deft emotional investment in something built in scale as Infinity War, and I definitely agree to some extent. I don't think they can top this. But right now they are definitely the best directors Marvel have on them, and hats off for a fucking tremendous job here.
When I brought up earlier that I feel like this was almost an elaborate apology to what was a horribly misguided comic book arc. The reason was that even though it proposed a sense of conflict it's that it was borderline impossible to sympathize with one side (Team Iron Man specifically) because his moral compass was completely whacked out. It felt like it dehumanized the character and my initial worry about this movie being billed as a "Captain America" movie was that it was never going to pan out in presenting a non-biased situation, because Captain America for the last movies he's been in had been established as a character that has the idealistic view point to aspire for.
Believe it or not I was legitimately shocked that this movie managed to humanize both elements of Steve and Tony in a way that make both their plights equally palpable, understandable and questionable. Both of them get a lot of due criticism in the movie from separate angles and it does not pull any punches in letting these characters know it. At the same time the movie still respects these characters enough to throw them a bone in what is a byzantine of moral values and what they're fueled by. It's a movie that explores the depths of how far two "figureheads" let their sympathies drive one another. It gets to explore the hints Cap laid the groundwork for in Age of Ultron but it also finds some interesting new revelations about Tony's emotional investment. To put it in a word; poignancy.
The final encounter eventually becomes somewhat emblematic of this and presents a really subversive take on the build-up for an overarching theme - one that has been needing an answer ever since Avengers. If that movie's plot hinged entirely on an audience created notion of whether or not the entire MCU "experiment" can actually be made into a movie, Civil War is the closest thing to what Avengers 2 should have been in that this movie tackles the question of how this can possibly go on. If you watch the movie with a sort of meta-textual awareness there are a whole lot of subtle details in the movie you might just catch that speak about it's own circumstance. Alongside that it manages to tell a story that uses a political question as less of it's main source of conflict, and more of a pretext to what is eventually going to be a skirmish fueled by ego, loyalty, personal vendettas and guilt.
This is the MCU finally being humble under it's own pretense, but not in a way that robs the inherently entertaining value of a movie. It's a blockbuster movie that manages to scatter emotional conflict as well as political conflict, and somehow make it work alongside what eventually becomes a fireworks display of geeky nostalgia and comic book reverence. It ticks off so many boxes on a tragicomedy checklist and manages to be joyful, sad and exhilarating at once, and it actually makes you think about the characters and what they're going through. A bunch of parallels that echo in the beginning come back in the end, every character plays off each other spectacularly, and there's an occasional level of irony in hindsight when comparing some events that the characters go through.
Speaking of characters this is definitely some of the most realized newcomers put on screen. Every character that's been in a movie prior, their qualities pretty much go without saying - and most of them have their very best moments in this movie. But Black Panther and Spider-Man stand out among the rest. Black Panther is going to create a lot of fans with this movie, the character stands as testament to the fact that serious does NOT mean dark. His mere presence is filled with intensity and nobility, and he even has a funny moment or two without the need of a quip. This is a straight up admirable character, a kind of character that the MCU has desperately needed. Spider-Man is someone I worried a lot about in more ways than one; especially the idea of introducing him in what is essentially someone else's movie, but it quickly becomes clear that this movie realizes origin stories for someone like this is pretty much pointless and through his scenes it becomes wonderfully clear how this was almost a note perfect way of re-introducing him to this particular world. He's the nerdy show-stealer that the previous two iterations consistently tried but could never fully achieve, and he's in a perfect position here to bounce off of everyone. He has easily the best action scenes in this movie, and while I was worried about the costume at first I now feel like after seeing it, it's the best Spidey costume so far. I can't wait to see his solo movie now and I pray that the deal holds together long enough so he can share the super smackdown screentime in Infinity War.
This movie definitely eclipsed The Winter Soldier in my eyes primarily because it is so much more evocative as a character piece, while also having a fantastic third act in comparison. It might just be in the echelons of best comic book movies. Subversive, thoughtful, fun, it's got pretty much everything you could ask for. The only movie I think I like more than this one in the MCU is Guardians of the Galaxy but it's such a close race. Right now, the Cap trilogy stands tall as what's easily the best comic book trilogy in movies, and this is a rare case where each subsequent movie has only gotten consistently better.
A poster here said earlier that a worry going onward is that the Russos might not be able to maintain such a deft emotional investment in something built in scale as Infinity War, and I definitely agree to some extent. I don't think they can top this. But right now they are definitely the best directors Marvel have on them, and hats off for a fucking tremendous job here.
BronsonLee
Member
Man everyone called that shit the second Tomei got cast
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
If someone didn't know who was playing her and I told them everyone thought May was hot, they'd be fucking perplexed for a good minute.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I just mean the gif
The whole world was wrong about you
I'm lost
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I just mean the gif
The whole world was wrong about you
You mean because the body isn't moving and only his head is?
That's just tumblr being tumblr, they love doing that shit.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
that's a good point, didn't think about that
Tumblr directed TFA and The First Avenger, mind blown!
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Thats alright, we'll tell you all about it.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
~38 hours to go
There's 6 showings Friday at midnight in the theater near me and they are all sold out. Theater has 14 screens.
I'm going Sunday anyway, but just checking the showings there's a couple of shows Saturday afternoon sold out as well, and the one I picked for Sunday has half a dozen booked seats already. Insane.
I'm going Sunday anyway, but just checking the showings there's a couple of shows Saturday afternoon sold out as well, and the one I picked for Sunday has half a dozen booked seats already. Insane.
Just back from it. Enjoyed it a lot (apart from the annoying guy behind me who couldn't keep his nerdgasms silent. Yeah dude, I think your friends actually figured out the black guy is Black Panter too. No need to yell it to them!)
It's not on par with my favourite Marvel flicks though. I thoroughly enjoyed Iron Man 1, The Avengers and Guardians more. I think the chemistry is missing a bit (that's what you get with warring heroes) and I might be fed up with some of the 'cool' stuff like counting down the badguys you K.O.'d (Could be that I was annoyed about the guy behind me jizzing his pants)
It's also a tad too long, with a third act that doesn't really top the extravaganza coming before (allthough it is all pretty personal at that point). The badguy isn't really interesting either, as all the conflict is (rightfully) between Cap and Iron Man.
Loved Spidey though. You feel a bit he's a later adition, but he gives the movie a much needed brevity where it otherwise mostly lacking. And kudo's for the writing team to keep so many characters in check without losing the audience.
about the first stinger:
It's not on par with my favourite Marvel flicks though. I thoroughly enjoyed Iron Man 1, The Avengers and Guardians more. I think the chemistry is missing a bit (that's what you get with warring heroes) and I might be fed up with some of the 'cool' stuff like counting down the badguys you K.O.'d (Could be that I was annoyed about the guy behind me jizzing his pants)
It's also a tad too long, with a third act that doesn't really top the extravaganza coming before (allthough it is all pretty personal at that point). The badguy isn't really interesting either, as all the conflict is (rightfully) between Cap and Iron Man.
Loved Spidey though. You feel a bit he's a later adition, but he gives the movie a much needed brevity where it otherwise mostly lacking. And kudo's for the writing team to keep so many characters in check without losing the audience.
about the first stinger:
I know nothing of Black Panter as a comic book hero, but damn, that movie will be something else based on the jungle shot. Seems like Marvel is going all left field with the next phases, and I can only applaud them for it as Civil War felt at times a bit been there and done that.
TimFL
Member
I have to disagree. It felt like they blew their load in terms of story once again with the trailers/tv spots. Was surprised that they spoiled next to nothing of the airport battle though.
No hate though, that Spider-Man was top tier fan service. I was surprised by how much screen time he had and how much he interacted with the others. They only showed like what...
_5_
Broke my heart when his time was up but oh well... next year
Just came back from the cinema and I loved it. Just a short impression.
First things first, the movie is definitely on the top spot of marvel movies.
Sadly many movies nowadays can't keep the same quality in the sequels (or improve it if the movie is bad/ok) let alone surpass it and luckily Cap: Civil War... well let's say it manages to hold the quality from The Winter Soldier. I don't know if it's better than Winter Soldier, I have to re-watched Civil War especially on Blu-ray at home to make sure but I'd say it is better.
The pacing was really smooth and the tone is more mature and serious (like Winter Soldier) than the other MCU movies but it keeps you entertained with well placed shots of humor and action to balance it all out, which unfortunately imo many MCU fail at because they are mostly the same, funny, lighthearted and follow the same formula. The huge amount of characters didn't feel shoehorned in, they had their purpose, spotlight and used their screen time just right. Black Panther and Spider-Man were the highlight though, this is how Spider-Man should be and the Russos, Feige nailed it. I can't say much about Black Panther since I don't know him that good.
The acting was perfect, especially Downey (who was much better then before, like Iron Man 1) and Evans. You can clearly see how they both think and understand their position/viewpoint which put's you right in between them and you want to stand on either side.
The action is amazing and well choreographed. The Airport scene is bar far the best we have seen in the MCU, scratch that it's the best action scene in a comicbook (superhero) movie and one of the best action scenes at all.
10/10 if you just want a fun and entertaining superhero movie, 7-8/10 if you are not that into the genre and want more substance (i.e. the dark knight).
This is how the Avengers should have been. I'm really excited for Infinity War now.
I had a similar experience, except that the dude behind me wasn't nerding out but merely commenting on almost every scene (i.e. why is the font so giant?, what finger nails are these?). Luckily he shut up after a short while.
First things first, the movie is definitely on the top spot of marvel movies.
Sadly many movies nowadays can't keep the same quality in the sequels (or improve it if the movie is bad/ok) let alone surpass it and luckily Cap: Civil War... well let's say it manages to hold the quality from The Winter Soldier. I don't know if it's better than Winter Soldier, I have to re-watched Civil War especially on Blu-ray at home to make sure but I'd say it is better.
The pacing was really smooth and the tone is more mature and serious (like Winter Soldier) than the other MCU movies but it keeps you entertained with well placed shots of humor and action to balance it all out, which unfortunately imo many MCU fail at because they are mostly the same, funny, lighthearted and follow the same formula. The huge amount of characters didn't feel shoehorned in, they had their purpose, spotlight and used their screen time just right. Black Panther and Spider-Man were the highlight though, this is how Spider-Man should be and the Russos, Feige nailed it. I can't say much about Black Panther since I don't know him that good.
The acting was perfect, especially Downey (who was much better then before, like Iron Man 1) and Evans. You can clearly see how they both think and understand their position/viewpoint which put's you right in between them and you want to stand on either side.
The action is amazing and well choreographed. The Airport scene is bar far the best we have seen in the MCU, scratch that it's the best action scene in a comicbook (superhero) movie and one of the best action scenes at all.
10/10 if you just want a fun and entertaining superhero movie, 7-8/10 if you are not that into the genre and want more substance (i.e. the dark knight).
This is how the Avengers should have been. I'm really excited for Infinity War now.
I had a similar experience, except that the dude behind me wasn't nerding out but merely commenting on almost every scene (i.e. why is the font so giant?, what finger nails are these?). Luckily he shut up after a short while.
brandonh83
Banned
I'm not seeing anything that remotely resembles a spoiler in those track titles.
Just came back. It's absolutely fantastic and my favorite of the Marvel movies for sure. I agree with some of the reviews that it can be a bit unwieldy at times, because there is a lot going on. I do think they manage to bring it all together in a satisfying way though which is quite the achievement all things considered.
Spiderman is perfect. It's cazy how good of an introduction this movie is. The airport scene deserves all the praise it gets, it really is an amazing action scene. I was just sitting there with a dumb smile on my face the entire time.
Now to the part that was the most pleasant surprise: This movie sticks the landing. A lot of the Marvel movies failed to accomplish that imo but there is a neat little twist near the end that I thought was excellent and elevated Zemo in his villain role. He's not in the movie a lot, it's not a spectacular performance by any means because it's not written that way but the character does what the movie needs him to do. I didn't feel like they wasted potential like it is so often the case.
Will definitely watch it again.
Spiderman is perfect. It's cazy how good of an introduction this movie is. The airport scene deserves all the praise it gets, it really is an amazing action scene. I was just sitting there with a dumb smile on my face the entire time.
Now to the part that was the most pleasant surprise: This movie sticks the landing. A lot of the Marvel movies failed to accomplish that imo but there is a neat little twist near the end that I thought was excellent and elevated Zemo in his villain role. He's not in the movie a lot, it's not a spectacular performance by any means because it's not written that way but the character does what the movie needs him to do. I didn't feel like they wasted potential like it is so often the case.
Will definitely watch it again.
Gordon Shumway
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