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Captain America: Civil War |OT| Finding Zemo
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Cap hates america now
I paid for that shield!!
Yeezus H. Christ
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How much did Cap even make as a SHIELD agent?
Dude had a pretty modest apartment and said he couldn't afford a place in Brooklyn.
Dude had a pretty modest apartment and said he couldn't afford a place in Brooklyn.
But this movie was funded by german taxes so we own him now, sorry.
Captain Germany. Concept could become problematic.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Don't worry fam, I'll take some notes for you to bring home from the cinema tonight.
To be fair, not even Stark can afford a place in Brooklyn these days.
I always thought that was a really funny line. Though, judging by the fact that Fury had the key and Agent 13 lived across the hall, I've always assumed SHIELD got him that apartment.
Thats what I thought all the time, too
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Where's Stark getting his money for his shiny new Avengers tower? Those shady Union Allied guys who profited from cleaning up the Battle of NY?
Where's the journalist trying to dig up those shenanigans?
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You can't really compare it to AoU because CW actually manages to not collapse under its own weight. It has me excited for Infinity War (and the Spidey solo flick)
Thanks guys. Will probably check this one out over the weekend then.
There does feel like some good comics mythology to pull from as well as stuff still to mine that they've already set up in the films, whether it's characters they've already introduced or set up or threads like the Ten Rings/Mandarin or AIM. In that sense, an Iron Man 4 almost seems like it should be made just due to the missed potential in IM2 and 3 (and I actually liked both films) because even if they carried along Tony's character arc well enough, they missed an opportunity to flesh out "his world" better and this may be the only time we get Iron Man stories any time soon.
The only question is where can you go with Tony's character from here? Not even talking comic storylines but just in the MCU. I can't help but think Infinity War will feel like the climax not just of the Avengers saga, but the end of a journey for a lot of the characters. Maybe topping that or adding on more baggage isn't the solution, maybe making it way more personal is the way to go with the theme of Tony sowing the seeds of his own personal demons growing in the shadows. That's always been pretty compelling for Tony so far, but they've turned the threats he's helped create more external after IM3 and problems that effect everyone. Tying that into the legacy of his father, for better or worse, is also something he can't escape. Maybe Tony just trying to finally step away from being a superhero and just focusing on being an inventor and a business man again is where he'll find himself, which actually would be a good way to carry on from the ending of IM3, using his inventions to try to better the world or something and the implications that has.
What if after Infinity War, Tony decides to help with Earth's dealing with space threats, whether it's in a positive way by exploring and researching the universe and all these new cosmic alien races they just found out about (perfect way to tie in a Fantastic Four intro if that is a deal that ends up happening) or in a more violent way like the government wanting to build bigger weapons and defense systems. In that sense, it could be a way to explore Iron Man and FF's more Cold War roots without having to deal directly with the actual Cold War implications in a modern world. There could essentially be a "space race" and and "arms race" but rather than the idea of it being to compete with the Russians or Communists, it could be the idea of the quick advancement of technology in the modern age and exploring new concepts that we are still struggling with due to things like globalization and the internet. The world can be best trying to figure out how to deal with the bigger cosmic universe out there after realizing just how big it is; do you attempt to make friends with all these beings like the Asgardians or do you stockpile more weapons? Is it a political game of building alliances and using existing conflicts to the Earth's own ends? Maybe there are already worlds out there thinking of using the Earth as a chess piece for their own agenda. There is certainly some potential for allegory and metaphor there and not only that, it can tie into something big again with the cosmic side of things since there is a big GotG trilogy conclusion I'd assume that's still on the horizon and The Inhumans as well.
Hah, I was talking about them making it more personal but then went off on a tangent about space. Hey, I guess that could be the way they tie things to Fing Fang Foom as well as the Mandarin. Mandarin could be competing against Tony's efforts to establish the methods Earth deals with other worlds (with Mandarin's business efforts and negotiations being nefarious and self-serving for personal gain) but at first they think he's a legit business mogul before realizing his ties to the Ten Rings and his shady ways he made his fortune, as well as his real motivations for doing what he is doing, trying to find the source of his ten rings power knowing they came from space or something.
I don't know, there is probably a story there that would be better than the outline I could imagine. I'd definitely be down for more Iron Man though.
These videos are such a great idea. Makes the lead up to the film more fun without having me feel tempted by spoilerific clips, interviews, and reviews while trying to keep the hype train rolling.
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LMAO at the shawarma reference
Pai Pai Master
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Iron Man 4, post Infinity War, would be a perfect way to introduce S.W.O.R.D. and the FF (if that were a possibility).
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Nope no more clips. Less than 4 hours to go.
I enjoyed the "Massive ant-like insect" spotted in San Fran. You think they would of caught it by now lol
To be fair, not even Stark can afford a place in Brooklyn these days.
Yep. The more I think about it, it seems like a logical place for them to go post-IW and Iron Man 4 at least being a jumping off point for something like establishing S.W.O.R.D.
Besides using the Iron Man franchise to kick start Phase 4 and set the tone going forward, Tony seems like the most logical one to place in charge of being the liaison for Earth in the MCU, whether they get Fantastic Four or not, possibly forming a network with Nova Corps by establishing S.W.O.R.D. I could see them putting Captain Marvel on S.W.O.R.D. at that point
Just thinking about what they could be opening up the MCU to with the cosmic side post-IW is getting me hyped.
Inhumans was supposed to be, but that's off the slate now. They've mentioned GotG3, but no date.
They'll probably do a big Phase 4 blow out in acouple years.
Broken Joystick
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Feige has open talked about Phase 4, Inhumans will probably end up there.
I think there was also reports that Marvel have enough films to last them to like 2032.
So yeah, they definitely have a roadmap of sorts. Obviously it changes with things like Spider-Man.
They're the end of this incarnation of the MCU, whatever that means.
The WHIH videos don't seem like spoilers for the films so much as supplemental material that helps set up things in the film. Similar to the role Agents of SHIELD plays with their tie-ins.
edit: I haven't seen the film so I don't know for sure, just doesn't seem like it to me.
Speaking of AoS, it's really interesting that they mention "Transia Corporation Announces Interim CEO" in the ticker not just in how it's a direct reference to AoS and
Malik biting the dust
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Pai Pai Master
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That's not true though. There's no reboot or anything coming before phase 4.
BrokenFiction
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Broken Joystick
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I think it's meant as a sort of bookend, if that even means anything. Like, we have Avenger team ups signifying the end of a Phase (kind of). I don't think they will do an Avengers 4 as a finish to Phase 4, they'll have to find something different.
Open Phase 4 with this and go ham with the Hickman content.
We need Namor for that. Actually we need him for the Black Panther movie anyway
Galactus, Annihilation Wave...
Spider-verse with Tobey and Andrew
I loved this movie..Black Panther,Ant-Man and Spidey goddamn.
Russo Brothers are a great addition to Marvel they know how to craft a movie. King T'Challa is fucking badass. Also tom holland as peter parker/spider man is great he is just like how you think spider man is a young kid with superpowers.
Russo Brothers are a great addition to Marvel they know how to craft a movie. King T'Challa is fucking badass. Also tom holland as peter parker/spider man is great he is just like how you think spider man is a young kid with superpowers.
It'd take a cosmic cube to get Fox to sign over those rights
Pai Pai Master
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I'd rather they pare things down just a little, and go with Masters of Evil or Dark Avengers for Phase 4. Going right into Secret Wars feels like a bad idea.
Doctor Strange (2016)
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017)
Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
Black Panther (2018)
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 (2018)
Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018)
Captain Marvel (2019)
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 (2019)
so this is phase 3?
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017)
Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
Black Panther (2018)
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 (2018)
Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018)
Captain Marvel (2019)
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 (2019)
so this is phase 3?
Yeezus H. Christ
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And Civil War.
BrokenFiction
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Good catch.
Yeezus H. Christ
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Phase 3 looks fucking amazing.
GOTG, Spidey, BP, Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel all in one phase.
GOTG, Spidey, BP, Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel all in one phase.
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