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[AlfredX1990]

That one rotten review cracks me up more and more. Not because I think it shouldn't be there (though I do think the reviewer is crap) but because it's just so lonely. Eventually some more rottens will show up, but, until then, he's like the one guy at the wedding who chose the fish.

What I found more surprising is that if you read all reviews and don't see at the score, this review doesn't seem that negative compared to the other one that gave the movie a 3/5, called Cap a fascist and said that saying this is the best Marvel movie is like saying this is the best Dorito I've ever eaten

 

[AquaWateria]

So what's going to be the next Marvel movie that some people believe will bomb?

It was said for GOTG and Antman.

 

[MechDX]

So what's going to be the next Marvel movie that some people say will bomb?

It was said for GOTG and Antman.

Dr. Strange

 

[Alienous]

So what's going to be the next Marvel movie that some people say will bomb?

It was said for GOTG and Antman.

The incoming Batman Begins ripoff, Doctor Strange.

 

[BLACKLAC]

So what's going to be the next Marvel movie that some people say will bomb?

It was said for GOTG and Antman.

Captain Marvel or Ragnarok.

Edit: or yeah... Strange,.

 

[Cuburt]

REAL BULLET PROOF CAPTAIN AMERICA SHIELD vs. LIVE AMMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKHqEKwy90A

(America) Fuck Yeah!

Get some!

I'm anticipating Part 2 more than Civil War.

 

[Poyunch]

REAL BULLET PROOF CAPTAIN AMERICA SHIELD vs. LIVE AMMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKHqEKwy90A

So this is how Chris Evans finally ends his Cap career. I can't wait for Old Man Steve Rogers.

 

[AquaWateria]

I'm suprised no one said Black Panther.

Unless it gets that Straight Outta Compton money.

 

[BLACKLAC]

I'm suprised no one said Black Panther.

Unless it gets that Straight Outta Compton money.

You would have to be blind to say BP or Spidey after how much praise they are getting from Civil War.

 

[MechDX]

I'm suprised no one said Black Panther.

Unless it gets that Straight Outta Compton money.

Well you said "next".

Yeah I agree though Panther will get a lot of early negativity thrown its way

 

[broncobuster]

I'm suprised no one said Black Panther.

Unless it gets that Straight Outta Compton money.

Marvel is doing the best they can to make BP a success. Civil War is in part a backdoor pilot for Black Panther and he's one of if not the best part of it. Add to that, it's got arguably the most prestigious director they've hired since Thor 1.

 

[Odrion]

Nah way is Black Panther going to bomb. I have all the faith that Ryan Coogler will make the dopest movie and Marvel is going to let everyone know by marketing the shit out of it.

 

[Spinluck]

Panther will break $700 million.

Spoiler

Meow.

 

[Cuburt]

 

[dejay]

Yeah, I watched Creed last week for the first time. Definitely excited for BP, and not just for the action. The characters and the emotion shown in Creed was great. Also, that long shot...

Age is the enemy Steve Rogers cannot beat.

 

[XAL]

Panther will break $700 million.

Spoiler

Meow.

Spoiler

Kitty's got claws!

 

[Fandangox]

Yeah, I watched Creed last week for the first time. Definitely excited for BP, and not just for the action. The characters and the emotion shown in Creed was great. Also, that long shot...



Age is the enemy Steve Rogers cannot beat.

 

[CazTGG]

So what's going to be the next Marvel movie that some people believe will bomb?

It was said for GOTG and Antman.

Probably Strange, though at this point I wouldn't be surprised if that or an R-rated Moon Knight or Man Thing movie somehow managed to make half a billion on the brand recognition of the MCU alone.

 

[Poyunch]

I hope I didn't waste my time on a bad joke.

Spoiler

I probably did.

 

[Poyunch]

edit: fuuck dp

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

That China post review has spoilers in it, boo.

 

[- J - D -]

He's wearing the wrong suit for using guns. Modern Cap doesn't use guns.

Because he understands that it's a contentious topic in modern society.

 

[Skunkers]

He's wearing the wrong suit for using guns. Modern Cap doesn't use guns.

Because he understands that it's a contentious topic in modern society.

Except in The Avengers?

 

[- J - D -]

Except in The Avengers?

Alien gun don't count. I'm talking straight up hot-button topic human ballistics, son.

 

[Houndi101]

Alien gun don't count. I'm talking straight up hot-button topic human ballistics, son.

BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAP

 

[- J - D -]

BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAP

Hey okay look it's 2am what do you want from me. Does Cap even hit anyone with that?

Now I just want Cap to use guns more.

 

[Houndi101]

Hey okay look it's 2am what do you want from me. Does Cap even hit anyone with that?

Now I just want Cap to use guns more.

Nah I think he just supressing fires at some goons...

 

[- J - D -]

Cap in the Avengers 1 was just terrible, gun or otherwise. Whedon really misfired there.

 

[Staf]

If Tony does not use a cat pun in the first scene with Black panther i'm walking out of the cinema.

 

[Lord Virgin]

If Tony does not use a cat pun in the first scene with Black panther i'm walking out of the cinema.

Yeah, if there is not at least one meow in there Marvel failed.

Spoiler

6 more days

 

[Discotheque]

Cap in the Avengers 1 was just terrible, gun or otherwise. Whedon really misfired there.

Pretty useless aside from his shield reflecting iron mans beam. Looked like a goober too

If it wasn't for Cap 2 the character would be a writeoff in film imo.

 

[Replicant]

BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAP

I kinda miss the red gloves and boots from Cap's Avengers costume. If only the rest of the costume doesn't look like a cosplay.....

 

[- J - D -]

Pretty useless aside from his shield reflecting iron mans beam. Looked like a goober too

If it wasn't for Cap 2 the character would be a writeoff in film imo.

Man I fear to think what Whedon's Cap would've been like in Avengers 2 if it weren't for Winter Soldier.

 

[broncobuster]

BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAP

Remember when he unloads a mag, failing to hit his target, slip off the helicarrier, and gets saved by Iron Man? Russo-Cap wouldn't stand for that.

 

[BLACKLAC]

People keep forgetting he was just thawed out of the ice at that point. Stopping an alien invasion was literally his first mission in a new world he wasn't even acclimated to yet.

 

[Einchy]

People keep forgetting he was just thawed out of the ice at that point. Stopping an alien invasion was literally his first mission in a new world he wasn't even acclimated to yet.

Come on now....

 

[BLACKLAC]

Come on now....

I'm right tho.

 

[Einchy]

He seems real rusty.

 

[BLACKLAC]

He seems real rusty.

Punching bags don't hit back. And it isn't like he wasn't wrecking aliens.

 

[Houndi101]

To be fair he used like a M1918 BAR or something in WW2 so that tacticool Call of Duty rifle full of all kinds of shit is really weird to aim!!!

 

[Einchy]

Damn, look at this dude not acclimating.

He's just the way Whedon wanted him to be. Why are you making excuses for him not being as strong as in the Russo films? It's silly to try and reason why his power level is different in the films, it's just that way because of the directors and not because he was rusty.

I mean, seriously.

 

[kurahador]

Damn, look at this dude not acclimating.

He's just the way Whedon wanted him to be. Why are you making excuses for him not being as strong as in the Russo films? It's silly to try and reason why his power level is different in the films, it's just that way because of the directors and not because he was rusty.

I mean, seriously.

We're arguing about his aim, not his strength or the use of shield. Why do you think he stops using guns altogether?

Let's not forget Cap got wrecked by Loki before that scene and even fail to block the staff blast.

 

[BLACKLAC]

Damn, look at this dude not acclimating.

He's just the way Whedon wanted him to be. Why are you making excuses for him not being as strong as in the Russo films? It's silly to try and reason why his power level is different in the films, it's just that way because of the directors and not because he was rusty.

I mean, seriously.

Hiding behind a shield is suddenly high tech fighting skills.....?

And not making any excuses, Russo Cap is much better. What I am saying is in the over all context of the story and his arc it makes perfect sense. Which is why I have no problem with it. Cap's hand to hand and feats of strength were no slouch in AoU.

 

[Einchy]

Hiding behind a shield is suddenly high tech fighting skills.....?

And not making any excuses, Russo Cap is much better. What I am saying is in the over all context of the story and his arc it makes perfect sense. Which is why I have no problem with it. Cap's hand to hand and feats of strength were no slouch in AoU.

Shooting a gun isn't high tech fighting skills and other people brought up him just being generally useful in Whedon's film.

And what I'm saying is that you're looking to form some headcanon where there doesn't need to be any. Cap is as strong as he is in Whedon's version because that's what he wanted and not because Cap wasn't "acclimated" to our world. Russo's version of Cap is much stronger because that felt it served the story better and not because he's now acclimated.

I don't have any issues with these 2 versions of him, by the way. Different people will have different takes on the character and that's cool. I just think it's rather silly to try and justify in universe reasons for things that are clearly there because of real world people.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

I think worse of Whedon's Cap after Winter Soldier. They did it so good.

 

[BLACKLAC]

Shooting a gun isn't high tech fighting skills and other people brought up him just being generally useful in Whedon's film.

Shooting a gun outside a helicarrier with no room to maneuver, back metaphorically against the wall (no wall, just a cliff) with a guy shooting back and in better cover (actual cover), and no shield.... That Cap, such a louse. I mean a few scenes earlier he threw one of those mercs to his death in the same spot.

And what I'm saying is that you're looking to form some headcanon where there doesn't need to be any. Cap is as strong as he is in Whedon's version because that's what he wanted and not because Cap wasn't "acclimated" to our world. Russo's version of Cap is much stronger because that felt it served the story better and not because he's now acclimated.

I don't have any issues with these 2 versions of him, by the way. Different people will have different takes on the character and that's cool. I just think it's rather silly to try and justify in universe reasons for things that are clearly there because of real world people.

No head-canon, just objectively looking at what's canon. It has nothing to do with what Whedon "wanted" and everything to do with the timeline of the universe, the situation and these characters.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Whedon's Cap doesn't do anything as impressive as that first kick to the boat soldier in WS. I visibly winced.

 

[Einchy]

Shooting a gun outside a helicarrier with no room to maneuver, back metaphorically against the wall (no wall, just a cliff) with a guy shooting back with better cover (actual cover), and no shield.... That Cap, such a louse. I mean a few scenes earlier he threw one of those mercs to his death in the same spot.

Why exactly are you arguing this with me? It's like you're trying to argue that he's not useless and I never tried to argue for that. If anything, you're the one who's arguing that since he said he's not as capable in later films because he's not acclimated yet. I mean, I linked those gifs to show that he's at the top of his game but that game's rules were set by Whedon.

No head-cannon, just objectively looking at what's canon. It has nothing to do with what Whedon "wanted" and everything to do with the timeline of the universe and these characters.

So Cap missed those shots and didn't have action scenes as action packed at Russo's version not because two different directors had two different takes on Cap's power level but because Whedon was forced to make him weaker because of the story?

Okay then.

 

[BLACKLAC]

Why exactly are you arguing this with me? It's like you're trying to argue that he's not useless and I never tried to argue for that. If anything, you're the one who's arguing that since he said he's not as capable in later films because he's not acclimated yet. I mean, I linked those gifs to show that he's at the top of his game but that game's rules were set by Whedon.

I'm not arguing! I'm debating! I'm not mad at you dude :/

So Cap missed those shots and didn't have action scenes as action packed at Russo's version not because two different directors had two different takes on Cap's power level but because Whedon was forced to make him weaker because of the story?

Okay then.

I said this has nothing to do with what Whedon wanted. It just makes sense, when looking at the timeline, that Cap isn't going to know high tech hand to hand in the first Avengers movie or perform the same feats as he does later in his career, I even remember the Russo's mentioning that the alien invasion causes Cap to up his game for TWS.

Was this intended originally by Whedon? Probably not. But boy does it fit nicely regardless.

 

[XAL]

Whedon's Cap doesn't do anything as impressive as that first kick to the boat soldier in WS. I visibly winced.

Yeah I thought Cap was kind of a punk ass bitch after Avengers.

Then I saw WS. Hoooooly shit. Such a much better characterization across the board, not just for his power set but for his personality/ethics as well.