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[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

Well deserved.

The guy's a genius!

 

[GreekWolf]

Epic scowl :lol

Still love the Romero... he might have been a slacking jackwad after DOOM's success, but there's no doubt he provided the "x" factor/magic in ID's early games. Company has been very good without him, but never again great.

 

[Kenaras]

Carmack! Quake really shook the way we look into video game worlds. And those were the days of true competition multiplayer FPS, no radar, no stats whoring, no auto aim, no l33t starting weapons etc. Just pure skill and team coordination. *sheds a tear*

Just to nitpick, Quake originally had auto aim by default. You had to disable it with a console command if you didn't want it. (It was also easier to play with it disabled; auto aim made it impossible to aim your rockets correctly.)

 

[Revelations]

Carmack! Quake really shook the way we look into video game worlds. And those were the days of true competition multiplayer FPS, no radar, no stats whoring, no auto aim, no l33t starting weapons etc. Just pure skill and team coordination. *sheds a tear*


Lifetime Achievement Award for contributions to the art and science of games

What were her contributions and how do they compare to the contributions of Carmack? If I understand your comment right you seem to think she should be mentioned/should've gotten the award?

Her contributions is extensive. Been around for a good while. How often does the award suppose to come?

 

[peakish]

Well deserved.

 

[Danthrax]

Dear Mr. Carmack,

Congratulations on your award. You deserve it for after giving us so many wonderful games — Commander Keen, Commander Keen 2, Commander Keen 3, etc.

On that note, where is my Commander Keen 7?! I need to know what happens to Billy Blaze and the fate of the universe! I've been waiting for 18 years.

Hugs and kisses,

-Danthrax

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Well deserved, eventhough I haven't really liked anything he have worked on since RTCW, which I still consider to be one of the best FPS's ever, especially for it's MP and Enemy Territory. Wolfensteins single player was also a nice surprise after ET: Quake Wars. Major respect for Doom, Keen and Quake series, though D3 and Q4 were pretty bad.

 

[Sciz]

Twenty years on and he's still the greatest. Can't wait to see Tech 5 in action firsthand.

id-Bethesda is still a really weird combination to think about though.

Spoiler

Hurry up and give Tom Hall the reins to Keen already.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

well deserved indeed

 

[Mar]

though D3 and Q4 were pretty bad.

I will never understand the hate for DOOM 3. It's my favourite single player FPS of all time. Other than people who played it on the xbox... It had content missing and controlled like ass.

Q4 was raven and not id right? And yeah, that game was bad.

 

[BMX Bandit]

I will never understand the hate for DOOM 3. It's my favourite single player FPS of all time. Other than people who played it on the xbox... It had content missing and controlled like ass.

Q4 was raven and not id right? And yeah, that game was bad.

Yeh, quite sure Q4 was Raven.

Just to nitpick, Quake originally had auto aim by default. You had to disable it with a console command if you didn't want it. (It was also easier to play with it disabled; auto aim made it impossible to aim your rockets correctly.)

sv_aim 0

 

[babuchy]

congratulations John "God" Carmack

 

[Grayman]

Q4 was Raven but id took over the multiplayer updates pretty quickly.

 

[JaseC]

I will never understand the hate for DOOM 3. It's my favourite single player FPS of all time. Other than people who played it on the xbox... It had content missing and controlled like ass.

I'd think the hate for the game stems from the fact it's a corridor-heavy FPS released when shooters were becoming - either actually or seemingly - more 'open'. Obviously, when you re-imagine a then-10-year-old game and do next to nothing to update the mechanics, people are going to be divided. I, for one, enjoyed the game.

Interestingly, Wikipedia mentions the game having sold over 3.5m copies and that "it is the most successful game by the developer to date". I would've thought at least one of their previous titles to have sold more given id practically owned the FPS genre up until Q3.

 

[commissar]

Played some Quake Live to celebrate. Man Quake is awesome

 

[Castor Krieg]

For reason why this guy is God:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLB3eD4n3aY

Always cracks me how Geoff has no damn idea what Carmack is talking about.

 

[Erasus]

For reason why this guy is God:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLB3eD4n3aY

Always cracks me how Geoff has no damn idea what Carmack is talking about.

Geoff looks like he has no fucking idea what a texture is. :lol

The PS3 vs 360 comment was interesting, but nothing unknown.

And Carmack should have gotten this sooner, he is a fucking god! Just look at idtech5. Hell, idtech3 is still used by MW2 :lol

 

[Grayman]

I'd think the hate for the game stems from the fact it's a corridor-heavy FPS released when shooters were becoming - either actually or seemingly - more 'open'. Obviously, when you re-imagine a then-10-year-old game and do next to nothing to update the mechanics, people are going to be divided. I, for one, enjoyed the game.

Interestingly, Wikipedia mentions the game having sold over 3.5m copies and that "it is the most successful game by the developer to date". I would've thought at least one of their previous titles to have sold more given id practically owned the FPS genre up until Q3.

The mechanics were changed a lot from the 10 year old title though. Doom 3 is half like a survival horror game. The mid map backtracking is similar but the movement and combat are too different. A portion of the hate comes from the game not being as fun as its namesake or the Quake games.

I had known about the sales success but never thought of it before. I would guess the lack of shareware fulfilling people without a sale is what put it over DOOM, II, and maybe Quake. The market for that type of game might have been bigger in 2004 than it was in 96-99?

On a superficial level it does not make sense as the best selling game. It is the least well received critically, had no mainstream attention, no lasting fanbase, no must have mods.

 

[JaseC]

The mechanics were changed a lot from the 10 year old title though. Doom 3 is half like a survival horror game. The mid map backtracking is similar but the movement and combat are too different. A portion of the hate comes from the game not being as fun as its namesake or the Quake games.

Quite true. However, in the end, the game still didn't amount to much more than "Go here and kill demons". For all intents and purposes, it was a 90s-era shooter released in 2004, which irked more than a few and pleased those who were expecting nothing more.

I had known about the sales success but never thought of it before. I would guess the lack of shareware fulfilling people without a sale is what put it over DOOM, II, and maybe Quake. The market for that type of game might have been bigger in 2004 than it was in 96-99?

True, but Q3A in particular was very popular in its hey-day. I guess I just expected a little more sales for the developer once at the very forefront of the genre.

On a superficial level it does not make sense as the best selling game. It is the least well received critically, had no mainstream attention, no lasting fanbase, no must have mods.

I'm certainly surprised it sold as much as it did. It'll be interesting to see how Doom 4 performs, particularly if it is better-received by critics than its predecessor.

 

[Danne-Danger]

The mechanics were changed a lot from the 10 year old title though. Doom 3 is half like a survival horror game. The mid map backtracking is similar but the movement and combat are too different. A portion of the hate comes from the game not being as fun as its namesake or the Quake games.

They took a lot of inspiration from System Shock 2, which I kind of want to respect. I do find it pretty hard to get into though, too much Delta Labs.

 

[Safe Bet]

Always cracks me how Geoff has no damn idea what Carmack is talking about.

That played out like an uncomfortable blind date.

*wince*

 

[GreekWolf]

I will never understand the hate for DOOM 3. It's my favourite single player FPS of all time. Other than people who played it on the xbox... It had content missing and controlled like ass.

Eh... I dunno. I've just recently completed another run through both versions, and still convinced that the xbox port somehow turned out to be the better game. Other than the obvious drop in detail and one or two filler sequences eliminated, it just feels like a much more accurate representation of the run-and-gun pace from the original DOOM.

I think it was IGN that said D3 on PC was like a terrifying stroll through a haunted house, while the xbox port was like riding a demonic roller coaster.

Couldn't agree more that the game (either version) is still fantastic, even by today's standards.

 

[Phife Dawg]

Just to nitpick, Quake originally had auto aim by default. You had to disable it with a console command if you didn't want it. (It was also easier to play with it disabled; auto aim made it impossible to aim your rockets correctly.)

Was that true for multi as well? I.e. were there ever "serious" servers who didn't have it disabled? Can't remember - it's been a while. But of course point taken, head lowered in shame.

Her contributions is extensive. Been around for a good while. How often does the award suppose to come?

Bring them up and compare them if you want to bring her into the discussion. I think she worked with Ion Storm before?

 

[BMX Bandit]

Was that true for multi as well? I.e. were there ever "serious" servers who didn't have it disabled? Can't remember - it's been a while. But of course point taken, head lowered in shame.

Client option. Was always on by default and made going for blast radius damage with a rocket launcher really annoying.

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

Quite true. However, in the end, the game still didn't amount to much more than "Go here and kill demons". For all intents and purposes, it was a 90s-era shooter released in 2004, which irked more than a few and pleased those who were expecting nothing more.

True, but Q3A in particular was very popular in its hey-day. I guess I just expected a little more sales for the developer once at the very forefront of the genre.

I'm certainly surprised it sold as much as it did. It'll be interesting to see how Doom 4 performs, particularly if it is better-received by critics than its predecessor.

well doom was shareware you got a third (later a became a fourth) of the game for free, so im sure MILLIONS had/played doom and loved it, some enough to purchase the final few episodes.

edit: beaten! curses!


also count me in the camp that id lost a lot of its magic when romero quit/forced to leave. Quake 2/3 were good (I prefer UT99 to Q3 tho, it just had more fun to me). But Keen/Wolf/Doom/Quake 1 were its golden age imo after that it became more of an engine company and less about the games powered by them, if you guys or gals have even a passing interesting in gaming i would read Masters of Doom its the best game book ive ever read, and makes u feel like u were there during its heyday, and in my case wish I was born about a decade earlier to have been able to be in on the ground floor for all this (born in 81).

 

[Phife Dawg]

Client option. Was always on by default and made going for blast radius damage with a rocket launcher really annoying.

Damn I'm getting old, didn't remember - at all

well doom was shareware you got a third (later a became a fourth) of the game for free, so im sure MILLIONS had/played doom and loved it, some enough to purchase the final few episodes.

edit: beaten! curses!


also count me in the camp that id lost a lot of its magic when romero quit/forced to leave. Quake 2/3 were good (I prefer UT99 to Q3 tho, it just had more fun to me). But Keen/Wolf/Doom/Quake 1 were its golden age imo after that it became more of an engine company and less about the games powered by them, if you guys or gals have even a passing interesting in gaming i would read Masters of Doom its the best game book ive ever read, and makes u feel like u were there during its heyday, and in my case wish I was born about a decade earlier to have been able to be in on the ground floor for all this (born in 81).

Thanks for the tip, will try to look for a copy in Euroland.

 

[Revelations]

Bring them up and compare them if you want to bring her into the discussion. I think she worked with Ion Storm before?

I'm gonna need some help with that. As both of their accolades is spread out over a 20 year period. :O

 

[speculawyer]

I can hardly think of anyone who deserves it more.

 

[Phife Dawg]

I'm gonna need some help with that. As both of their accolades is spread out over a 20 year period. :O

How about the most important ones? Shouldn't be a thesis you know. I mean what Carmack did with Quake. Did Corinne Yu do something on the same scale? I wouldn't know, so I thought maybe you do.

 

[Filldough]

Congrats to Carmack, 100% deserved. ID is one of the key components in establishing my long love of games. I still remember playing thru every one of the Commander Keen's. Wolf 3d blew my mind when it came out and induced in me a blood lust that still has not been fulfilled. I'm 90% sure I blew my wad in Software Etc. the first time I saw the double barrel shotty in Doom 2 and freaking Quake... Wasn't quake the first true 3D game? Quake 2 ok, hated 3 and its multiplayer focus and then kinda faded out of PC gaming around that time so I haven't played an ID game in ages... Hopefully RAGE turns out awesome.