WB execs messed with GL. The movie martin wanted to make never happened. He refuses to talk about GL in interviews for exactly that reason. The same pattern wb execs have shown with BvS and suicide squad.
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WB execs messed with GL. The movie martin wanted to make never happened. He refuses to talk about GL in interviews for exactly that reason. The same pattern wb execs have shown with BvS and suicide squad.
Bond eating in an empty dining room after the poker game might be my favorite scene in the whole franchise. Everything about it feels so incredibly natural (and in a way totally unnecessary for the film)... i still don't understand why that scene is there, but i love it with a passion.
I grew up on James Bond films and they've greatly informed my love of film in general, despite many of them being terrible. To me it's a blessing that one of the greatest, if not the best, Bond film was released when i was old enough to appreciate it. Craig easily rivals Connery for the best performance of the character.
It's such a shame they haven't been able to reach the same heights, although i find Skyfall to be a fantastic addition to the franchise.
Edit and Ps.: Eva Green as Vesper is bar none the best Bond girl ever.
I grew up on James Bond films and they've greatly informed my love of film in general, despite many of them being terrible. To me it's a blessing that one of the greatest, if not the best, Bond film was released when i was old enough to appreciate it. Craig easily rivals Connery for the best performance of the character.
It's such a shame they haven't been able to reach the same heights, although i find Skyfall to be a fantastic addition to the franchise.
Edit and Ps.: Eva Green as Vesper is bar none the best Bond girl ever.
Jeffolation
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Le Chiffre beating Bond's nuts to a pulp tops even the Goldfinger laser table for villain on bond violence. Top marks all round.
Reckless Abandon
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Craig's best Bond film by far in my opinion. Nothing else comes close. Martin Campbell does Bond better than anyone. He should come back for the next one.
Mine, too. It fits the character and the "reboot" notion of this film perfectly.
Adele's Skyfall and Garbage's The World is Not Enough are also solid. And Tina Turner's GoldenEye is damn groovy.
Mine, too. It fits the character and the "reboot" notion of this film perfectly.
Adele's Skyfall and Garbage's The World is Not Enough are also solid. And Tina Turner's GoldenEye is damn groovy.
Discotheque
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First bond movie I saw in theaters was die another day lol.
God damn was that bad. Casino Royale was such a good experience though. Best bond girl, best bond, best bond film
Gotta say, and I know this won't be a popular opinion on GAF, that I'm looking forward to the end of the Craig era in Bond.
Skyfall was the only one I even remotely enjoyed (CR was "ok"), and I thought QoS may be one of the very worst Bonds I've seen, next to Diamonds are Forever and A View to a Kill.
Given the reviews, I haven't seen Specter yet, and in no rush to do so.
Skyfall was the only one I even remotely enjoyed (CR was "ok"), and I thought QoS may be one of the very worst Bonds I've seen, next to Diamonds are Forever and A View to a Kill.
Given the reviews, I haven't seen Specter yet, and in no rush to do so.
SparksterMeta0
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Not sure if I saw the whole thing, but damn if it didn't have one of the best Bond songs out there.
ProfessorLobo
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Yeah the poker was pretty weak. I try to shut my brain off during those scenes.
Twin sister Esther Lynd.
Seriously though, you need to watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service if you haven't already
The beginning of the novel (which still fits with the movie's opening) is that Bond visits Vesper's grave, goes to Casino Royale, where he meets a mysterious woman. She tries to commit suicide by drowning herself in the ocean, but this time Bond saves her.
It's really a twin to Casino Royale, and I love how they changed a couple things in the movie from the novel to make it tie in a little deeper.
They're celebrating after winning. It's a pretty famous scene in the novel where "La Vie En Rose" is being played (which is a reoccurring thing in the novels when Bond remembers Vesper). You can actually see that they have an area for a band there, but I think Craig mentioned that it should be so late after the poker game that it'd so late that it'd be all cleared out, so they changed it when they shot it. Pretty important beat in the Bond/Lynd story.
eyeball_kid
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Still my favorite Bond film post-Connery. It feels modern, but retains a class and glamour of the old films. Vesper is finally a Bond girl that is more or less his equal. Eva plays her to perfection.
It's a shame that his following films didn't hold a candle to it.
It's a shame that his following films didn't hold a candle to it.
WarMacheen
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Fav movie of all time. Shits all over every other Bond movie
I haven't seen it in ages but wasn't his tell basically nothing in the end, Bond didn't read him at all except by mistake at the beginning. I guess Bond knew how desperate Le Chiffre was after being attacked and he himself getting poisoned that he could push him all the way. Did I forget anything?
The winning hand isn't so bad, can't remember what kind of straight flush it was, four of a kind or something else basically doesn't sound so good on screen and getting the Le Chiffre has he won tension is probably the reason.
ZombiePlatypus
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Yeah same. I remember watching this with friends and all of us being bored af when it turned into "Watch ppl play poker forever."
protonion
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Bond noticed that Le Chiffre was mumbling (? not sure about the english word).
Even though Bond didn't have good cards he kept raising so that Le Chiffre reveals his cards. He too had nothing so Bond made the connection.
Then he told Mathis who told Le Chiffre and later he faked his tell while having good cards and won. It's a very amateurish tell...
Bond won with a low straight flush iirc. 56789 or something.
Winning with high card is the ultimate psychological win imo.
sammyCYBORG
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Made me a MASSIVE James Bond fan... then QoS, Skyfall and Spectre were all shit and lost me again.
CR is such a great film it's crazy that they dropped the ball so hard. I mean, I know there were like 20 shit Bond films before it, but I really thought CR was the start of something special.
CR is such a great film it's crazy that they dropped the ball so hard. I mean, I know there were like 20 shit Bond films before it, but I really thought CR was the start of something special.
For real? Do you have more information about this?
Hands down my fave Bond movie
Everything just fit together perfectly. A damm shame the following movies were so mediocre. With a few flecks of ingenuity.
I'm hoping when they soft reboot it again they have some actual faith in themselves, stop the fanservice and just make a damn good Bond movie with Bond actually enjoying himself.
Everything just fit together perfectly. A damm shame the following movies were so mediocre. With a few flecks of ingenuity.
I'm hoping when they soft reboot it again they have some actual faith in themselves, stop the fanservice and just make a damn good Bond movie with Bond actually enjoying himself.
Seriously though, you need to watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service if you haven't already
This one's great. One of my favorite Bond girls, and some really fun chase scenes.
Man with Knife
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That would have made even less sense than the already ridiculously stupid last hand in the movie though. There wouldn't be a showdown if everyone had a high card, the first guy to push all-in would win the pot lol
Looking back...most of the Bond movies are bad to average and a few that are "decent" at best. There really are really only two good movies, "The Living Daylights" and "Casino Royale", and yes Casino is definitely the best, well made, well told, great acted.
The movies don't hold up, they are awfully dated and cheesy. No matter how cool Connery was. It's time either for a massive overhaul or just retirement.
The movies don't hold up, they are awfully dated and cheesy. No matter how cool Connery was. It's time either for a massive overhaul or just retirement.
autoduelist
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I mean, the first hour is nearly non stop action beats.
-shadow-
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Amazing film and sadly the following sequels are not nearly as good. Quantum of Solace had an amazing setup and screwed it up. Casino Royale looks amazing but has some serious story problems and Spectre was a mess, though I did enjoy all three of them. Can't we get Martin Campbell back for another film? Also, dat Eva Green! I'm never really attracted to people from a film, but sweet lord Eva!
sankt-Antonio
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Think thats its super cool that CR's ending is leading directly into QoS opening sequence.
I remember going to see this at the cinema, and remembering why James Bond was such an enjoyable franchise all over again. Granted I grew up watching VHS recordings of Live And Let Die and Moonraker, but still, this was the James Bond I wanted more of. Made the fact Quantum was such a mess even more disappointing I suppose. At least Skyfall made up for it though!
Waldo Lydecker
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Twin sister Esther Lynd.
Seriously though, you need to watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service if you haven't already
The beginning of the novel (which still fits with the movie's opening) is that Bond visits Vesper's grave, goes to Casino Royale, where he meets a mysterious woman. She tries to commit suicide by drowning herself in the ocean, but this time Bond saves her.
Now that you mention this movie... I came to the conclusion that Eva Green is not #1 but tied #1 Bond girl together with Diana Rigg...
Damn, I had no idea. I coincidentally watched the blu ray on the exact 10th anniversary because I bought a new LG OLED and wanted to test it out. The movie has been sitting in its packaging for years until that moment!
Bizzare.
Loved the movie. Enjoyed it much more this time than I did when I watched it in theaters 10 years ago.
Bizzare.
Loved the movie. Enjoyed it much more this time than I did when I watched it in theaters 10 years ago.
Twilight Gap
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best bond for the chase scene alone
eot
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I decided to re-watch the movie because of this thread, don't think I've seen it since around the time of its release. I'd forgotten how good it is, has to be the best film I've watched in ages and I kinda want to watch it all over again. Hell, I even like the intro despite not caring at all for Chris Cornell.
I love how the movie doesn't center around creating the biggest/dumbest action set pieces, but instead just uses the action as seasoning (though the airport truck scene is probably the only part of the movie I'm not crazy about). To me it's great that the main antagonist is already dealt with 2/3rds into the movie. It's so subdued for a Bond movie, because it's actually about him as a character instead of some harebrained super villain scheme. Even the Bond girl in this film is someone you care about, and Eva Green is just amazing.
I get that subsequent movies couldn't be this character focused, but they could at least have taken away the lesson that they don't need to be about (increasingly boring) over the top action. Maybe this is the best Bond movie because Bond is the least himself in it, there's actually some humanity in it that makes the film resonate more.
I love how the movie doesn't center around creating the biggest/dumbest action set pieces, but instead just uses the action as seasoning (though the airport truck scene is probably the only part of the movie I'm not crazy about). To me it's great that the main antagonist is already dealt with 2/3rds into the movie. It's so subdued for a Bond movie, because it's actually about him as a character instead of some harebrained super villain scheme. Even the Bond girl in this film is someone you care about, and Eva Green is just amazing.
I get that subsequent movies couldn't be this character focused, but they could at least have taken away the lesson that they don't need to be about (increasingly boring) over the top action. Maybe this is the best Bond movie because Bond is the least himself in it, there's actually some humanity in it that makes the film resonate more.
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