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[ethelred]

Yes. There is only so much of Pachelbel's Canon, Bach's Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring, Beethoven's "Fur Elise" bagatelle (which means 'trifle' by the way), or Chopin's E-flat major Nocturne I can take before I want to scream from the heights.

No offense, but that's one of the worst analogies I've ever heard.

You stated that having copies of games be readily available to gamers cheapens and dirties them, in reference to two fairly rare games that many people quite simply cannot find and play without paying silly, absurd prices.

To defend this claim, you state that you are tired of hearing a few particular songs over and over. That's a complaint about overuse of the content, not overuse of availability.

It's bad if every single musician ever uses Pachelbel's Canon in D in his or her works. Similarly it is bad if every single game designer uses the same gaming formula in their development. That is not what you were originally complaining about. It is NOT a bad thing for particular songs -- and books, and games, and anything else -- to be available enough that the people who wish to appreciate them can do so. No one is forcing you to sit and play Aria of Sorrow for the rest of your life, but having more people able to find and buy the game (and thus increase its sales) in no way cheapens it.

Get a grip.

 

[Tarazet]

No offense, but that's one of the worst analogies I've ever heard.

You stated that having copies of games be readily available to gamers cheapens and dirties them, in reference to two fairly rare games that many people quite simply cannot find and play without paying silly, absurd prices.

To defend this claim, you state that you are tired of hearing a few particular songs over and over. That's a complaint about overuse of the content, not overuse of availability.

It's bad if every single musician ever uses Pachelbel's Canon in D in his or her works. Similarly it is bad if every single game designer uses the same gaming formula in their development. That is not what you were originally complaining about. It is NOT a bad thing for particular songs -- and books, and games, and anything else -- to be available enough that the people who wish to appreciate them can do so. No one is forcing you to sit and play Aria of Sorrow for the rest of your life, but having more people able to find and buy the game (and thus increase its sales) in no way cheapens it.

Get a grip.

As often as Konami releases Castlevania titles (even 2-D ones), it would get old fast if every single one was widely available. Circle of the Moon struck a good balance, and it is easy enough to find without the impression like it's all over the place, like, say, FFX. Lament of Innocence, on the other hand, is over-plentiful and as a result enjoys the same exalted status at retail as garbage like Ford Racing 3 and Polar Express.

And besides, if $30 is too much to pay for an Aria of Sorrow cartridge (that's about as high as it ever got), when EB would charge you $25 anyway, maybe you need to rethink your allegiances. Konami makes enough 2D Castlevanias for the committed gamers who are willing to buy them at retail at release. Any more would just be wasteful.

 

[blackadde]

this just in: libraries across the country learn they are depreciating the works of dostoyevsky, shut down. news at 11.

 

[Tarazet]

this just in: libraries across the country learn they are depreciating the works of dostoyevsky, shut down. news at 11.

So is Aria of Sorrow more or less influential and important than War and Peace?

 

[blackadde]

So is Aria of Sorrow more or less influential and important than War and Peace?

don't try to change the subject, you know the point is moot.

As often as Konami releases Castlevania titles (even 2-D ones), it would get old fast if every single one was widely available.

i dont get this either. why should i be bothered if it's easy to find? so is halo, gta, super mario bros, dragon quest, etc. and the a high availability of the software doesn't retroactively alter it's quality.

 

[blackadde]

boy, would i ever be pissed if everyone who wanted to play rez actually got to! pearls before swine!

 

[Tarazet]

i dont get this either. why should i be bothered if it's easy to find? so is halo, gta, super mario bros, dragon quest, etc. and the a high availability of the software doesn't retroactively alter it's quality.

Of course it doesn't alter its quality, but it could alter its desirability - whether you or I like it or not. That's why I think the fact that this double-pack is a limited release is a good thing. It's a smashing second chance for the people who are willing to pay $30, but it won't work for the drooling FatWalleters who want to see it hit $10 at retail before they finally bite.

 

[blackadde]

Of course it doesn't alter its quality, but it could alter its desirability - whether you or I like it or not.

but seriously, who gives a shit about that kind of thing? now i can't hoard copies/sell them for obscene amounts of money to little timmy a year or so down the road - so what. i got mine, you got yours, and little timmy is having a great birthday because his parents weren't tramped to death in toys 'r us looking for a copy.

 

[Tarazet]

but seriously, who gives a shit about that kind of thing? now i can't hoard copies/sell them for obscene amounts of money to little timmy a year or so down the road - so what. i got mine, you got yours, and little timmy is having a great birthday because his parents weren't tramped to death in toys 'r us looking for a copy.

Of course. Nothing wrong with it. If it makes those two games as common as CotM, then all the better. But they didn't have to do it, and they shouldn't be expected to bend over and give away as many as they possibly can at a cut-rate price (cough cough Square cough), if they don't want to.

With that said - I should point out that Gamefly is selling Double Packs for $24.99, and of course free shipping if you're a subscriber.

 

[ethelred]

But they didn't have to do it, and they shouldn't be expected to bend over and actually be the ones to make money on the games they made instead of hoarders.

Fixed. I mean, seriously. You say Konami shouldn't be expected to "give these things away" at cut-rate prices, but without the rerelease, they were making zero money on the games. All the money was being made by hoarders and by pre-owned outlets like EB and Gamestop.

Konami does a rerelease, and voila -- it is now making money on something it was previously making no money on. Hardly a bad thing for Konami. Hardly a bad thing for the fans of the games, who now get to have readily (or at least, moreso) available new sealed copies.

The only people this is a bad thing for are EB/Gamestop/hoarders.

 

[ethelred]

Also, just to make this clear, I personally didn't need Konami to rerelease these games, as I've already owned both of them for a good while now. But I'm still happy the company did it, in order to give more gamers a chance to experience them. Anything that helps the series grow is good.

 

[Tarazet]

Fixed. I mean, seriously. You say Konami shouldn't be expected to "give these things away" at cut-rate prices, but without the rerelease, they were making zero money on the games. All the money was being made by hoarders and by pre-owned outlets like EB and Gamestop.

Konami does a rerelease, and voila -- it is now making money on something it was previously making no money on. Hardly a bad thing for Konami. Hardly a bad thing for the fans of the games, who now get to have readily (or at least, moreso) available new sealed copies.

The only people this is a bad thing for are EB/Gamestop/hoarders.

I don't think it's a bad thing for EB and Gamestop. It's not like they were getting many copies of the games in the first place. The only people who suffer from this are the hoarders and the people who had gotten suckered into paying Amazon/Ebay prices to the hoarders - neither of which, if you ask most people, are worthy of much pity.

But Konami seems to have made their choice, and it was to limit production of their re-release. I couldn't tell you why, only speculate. I'm pretty sure they could reprint Dracula X too if they wanted, since it's just a CD-ROM.

 

[Az987]

I went to my local bestbuy and toys R us yesterday and saw 10 copys @ bestbuy and 8 @ toys R us. Looked like no one had bought one yet. So maybe its just rare in your area?

 

[Yamaha98]

Just picked up mines from Bestbuy, where there was probably half-dozen or so copies yet neither the local EB nor TRU had any available. $20 (coupon redeemed) for both games is worth it- starting off w/ AOS & it's been pleasureable so far yet feels easy like SOTN.

As for the manual, its one booklet yet double sided. There seems to be an printing error as the story to AOS is preceeding the HOD side & vice versa. Weird......

 

[Az987]

Do they print over one another or just on the backs of each page ?

 

[Yamaha98]

On backs of each other, essentially like some of those magazine (GQ for instance) publications w/ 2 covers in 1 that meet up half-way till you have to flip it over. Maybe this will fetch up more $$$ in future eBay listing?

Anyways, though I admit to getting killed a few times by not paying attention or turning gun-ho, AOS is just like SoTN- ie way too easy. I'd imagine it'll take another 4-7hrs to complete it throughly, probably bit more if I just decide to explore it all. Not sure how i'll welcome HOD.

 

[Wario64]

Best Buy store locator thingy says units available in 5 nearest Best Buy locations.

 

[teiresias]

Yeah, there seems to be an error with the instruction manual - I think it's just that the cover is stapled on the wrong way though so that the Harmony cover is mated with the AoS manual - I think the internals of the manuals themselves are fine once you get past the covers.

 

[Naked Snake]

Yeah, there seems to be an error with the instruction manual - I think it's just that the cover is stapled on the wrong way though so that the Harmony cover is mated with the AoS manual - I think the internals of the manuals themselves are fine once you get past the covers.

So you bought a GBA for that flight?

 

[teiresias]

Yes I did. I enjoyed playing it, but I didn't have enough time on the flight to finish either Metroid:ZM or FFIV. I didn't think about the fact that buying a GBA would just completely increase my gaming backlog - LOL!! Oh well.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

Btw: this has nothing to do with the castlevania double pack

But..


Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow for the DS is now discontinued, so dont expect any new shipments of these guys except whats left in whatevers warehouse.. gg another castlevania game gone rare possibly..

 

[daemonic]

I haven't played either. I really should buy it...

 

[Tarazet]

Btw: this has nothing to do with the castlevania double pack

But..


Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow for the DS is now discontinued, so dont expect any new shipments of these guys except whats left in whatevers warehouse.. gg another castlevania game gone rare possibly..

Thanks for the heads-up.. I'll tell my brother about this. I saw a couple at Best Buy a couple of days ago, might want to grab one while I can.

 

[Sagitario]

Btw: this has nothing to do with the castlevania double pack

But..


Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow for the DS is now discontinued, so dont expect any new shipments of these guys except whats left in whatevers warehouse.. gg another castlevania game gone rare possibly..

This news make me sad... :_( ... at least I got mine.

 

[Teddman]

Best Buy store locator thingy says units available in 5 nearest Best Buy locations.

Beware, there's nothing accurate about that friggin' web locator. Went to a store that showed up as having units and got nada today.

 

[Dyne]

Btw: this has nothing to do with the castlevania double pack

But..


Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow for the DS is now discontinued, so dont expect any new shipments of these guys except whats left in whatevers warehouse.. gg another castlevania game gone rare possibly..

I knew I got it for Christmas for a reason.

I also don't expect to see Advance Wars: Dual Strike ending up with many copies.

 

[Naked Snake]

Yes I did. I enjoyed playing it, but I didn't have enough time on the flight to finish either Metroid:ZM or FFIV. I didn't think about the fact that buying a GBA would just completely increase my gaming backlog - LOL!! Oh well.

I assume you got one of the new backlit SPs? I'm playing Metroid:ZM right now, although I've wanted to play it for ages since I loved Fusion and I prefer the setting of ZM, I'm not feeling the love for this game yet... Something doesn't feel right with it, but I'm only about a couple of hours in, so hopefully it'll pick up. Can't wait to get FFIV.

Funny, Julius mode in Dawn of Sorrow is taking me away from Zero Mission.

 

[Sagitario]

Funny, Julius mode in Dawn of Sorrow is taking me away from Zero Mission.

This remind me... I can't beat Abaddon...

 

[gopher]

Finally got my copy in the mail last week. So far I'd say HoD is utter shit, while AoS rocks. Don't think I'll finish HoD.

 

[Sagitario]

The game arrived already buy the delivery guys don't work on sunday... so tomorrow will be the day...