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Castlevania: Lord of Shadows 2 stuff
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I have read everything you said in what you posted so far.
Yeah this is a retarded argument. IMO it makes since to me it's how people of legend have names in the first place ie Vlad the Impailer. You think he came up with that? Nope. So Gabriel calling himself Dracul and the people starting to calling him Dracula for whatever reason is not far fetched.
DJSharpeCheddar
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My point is this, and it's pretty simple:
Yes, these people are creating their own story/mythology/lore/whatever, and that is fine. Good for them. HOWEVER, because they want their story to be recognizable, understandable, and popular it references other fictional works, as well as real life history. Obviously, this is common, and was the basis of all previous Castlevania games.
I just think that they are doing a sloppy, amateurish job by mistaking (or deliberately obfuscating) something so fundamental. I think it's silly at best, lazy and/or incompetent at worst. That's all!
Yes, these people are creating their own story/mythology/lore/whatever, and that is fine. Good for them. HOWEVER, because they want their story to be recognizable, understandable, and popular it references other fictional works, as well as real life history. Obviously, this is common, and was the basis of all previous Castlevania games.
I just think that they are doing a sloppy, amateurish job by mistaking (or deliberately obfuscating) something so fundamental. I think it's silly at best, lazy and/or incompetent at worst. That's all!
Dragon, actually
Bit off topic, but I liked this Mirror of Fate Boxart.
MercurySteam has some of the best artist, no doubt about that.
and to be honest, Alucard's face seems more, ehm, "Effeminate" than Trevor's.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
From Dave Cox' twitter:
cool:
cooler:
on-fly switching please
Yeah, we know.
Dragon, actually
Bit off topic, but I liked this Mirror of Fate Boxart.
MercurySteam has some of the best artist, no doubt about that.
Wallpaper get!!
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
Cute.
I'm sorry I expect these guys to do some research on the shit they're aping so they don't look stupid. It's nice that you don't mind being treated like an idiot, though! Carry on calling him Dracula or whatever.
Glass Rebel
Member
Bit off topic, but I liked this Mirror of Fate Boxart.
MercurySteam has some of the best artist, no doubt about that.
and to be honest, Alucard's face seems more, ehm, "Effeminate" than Trevor's.
Yeah, in this picture they don't seem to be the same person at all. How old is it? It might have changed in the mean-time. The official site makes no mention of Alucard at all.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
The point is, if you follow the lore of any story or piece of history that a videogame is based on, it's a butching, so your point makes no sense.
Hell some of some this gens best known action games are really crappy adaptions of historical figures and stories
like Inferno Or Greek Mythology
And you should know by now that this is effectively a reboot of the Castlevania universe, so there is no point of even bringing that up.
5 minutes old.
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
Ok! If you're ok with crappy adaptations, then more power to you. I expect slightly more work out of these guys.
And as for not bringing up old games, guess what? Reboots exist to exploit the audience's connection to old material and therefore invite comparison. If they didn't want to be compared to the old games, they shouldn't put the Castlevania name on it.
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
Well, the more you know
What are you talking about? Adaptation? of what? jeez
READ our conversation, good LORD.
Glass Rebel
Member
I guess that is (almost) a confirmation that Trevor isn't Alucard. Previous artwork had them rocking similar clothes and armour but the facial features are quite different. Alucard has a connection to the Belmont/Cronqvist clan from what MS has said, I guess we'll just have to wait for Mirror of Fate to find out
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
but the whole point of a reboot is to change the story.. otherwise it wouldn't be a reboot, it would be a sequel.
and im seriously interested, what videogame is close to its source material. You "expect slightly more work" but I cant think of one game in 20 years gaming that is up to such high standards.
please enlighten me.
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
Well, you mentioned Dante's Inferno...I haven't played it but I can see from the title that they managed to get the main character's name right. So, right there, they're doing better...
Dante's inferno to be a faithful adaptation confirmed. Devil May Cry too.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Lmao...
Glass Rebel
Member
Since brandonh83 took the avatar I wanted but couldn't take since I was at uni 
I had to make one with my main man Richter.
If you decide to make Lords of Shadow 3, don't hesitate to make him the protag, MercurySteam.
I had to make one with my main man Richter.If you decide to make Lords of Shadow 3, don't hesitate to make him the protag, MercurySteam.
Since brandonh83 took the avatar I wanted but couldn't take since I was at uni
If you decide to make Lords of Shadow 3, don't hesitate to make him the protag, MercurySteam.
They confirmed that LoS2 will be the end of "Lords of Shadows" saga. There will be no trilogy.
Maybe the end of Gabriel story but not the end of Castlevania games from them?
I can see another one with Alucard as main., they know is a fan favorite that I don't think they will miss the chance, like tease him in this one, a full on game with him next.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
He is Dracul.....he said it in the first game, he said it in the trailer....he even called himself the dragon?
What more do you want.
People who arent into the lore calling him Dracula is fine, heck the only reason i care about this universe is because of the first LOS yeah yeah classic CastleVanias were better i get that all the time....but im following the LOS universe, if the writers say his name is Dracul then his name shall be Dracul.
Hahaha ohh yeah.
Dante isnt even a poet, he fucks death up and steal his scythe....jesus atleast read the Divine Comedy then say Dantes Inferno is doing a better job.
There are few games that take such liberties with source material.....beyond the name and circles of hell a couple random quotes here and there....very little of Dantes Inferno can be called a faithful adaption of the Divine Comedy.
As far as i can tell they keeps calling Gabriel Dracul.....a couple art works from last game said Dracula but with this game i have yet to see him be called anything but Dracul....the dragon.
My dracula lore is pretty weak these days but unless im completely mistaken.
Dracul - Dragon
Dracula - Son of the Dragon
Or something along those lines.....so if they are calling him Dracul and his son will become the Dracula everyone so loves....i see no issues.
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
Ok! The reading comprehension in this thread is fucking scary. My fault...expecting too much I guess. Good evening all.
Eject!!
Eject!!
Haint
Member
Dragon, actually
Bit off topic, but I liked this Mirror of Fate Boxart.
MercurySteam has some of the best artist, no doubt about that.
and to be honest, Alucard's face seems more, ehm, "Effeminate" than Trevor's.
Whence did you conjure this artwork Sir? I seek a higher rez version for wallpaper use.
Official twitter gentleman. May we ask for a higher resolution asset on twitter?
Had to google what "whence" was lol
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
My second favorite thing about NeoGAF.
Instead of actually discussing and helping a brother understand his mistake, just leave the thread.
Good riddance.
He's bailing out because he was wrong, and you're right, and doesn't want to admit he is wrong.
But that's not what they're doing. They're skipping Dracula and going straight from Dracul to Alucard, which makes no sense because Alucard's name is based on Dracula.
edit: nevermind i don't know what this argument is even about anymore.
Glass Rebel
Member
Dave Cox ignored my question whether the Mirror of Fate boxart would confirm that Alucard isn't Trevor. I guess that can only mean that he actually is! Call Kotaku!
First game is one of my all time favorite games ever. MercurySteam's take on the Castlevania mythology was the best reboot of a classic franchise I've ever seen, from the mindblowing art design to the godly atmosphere, music and addictive combat. Story was also all out epic, with the biblical elements to the plot only enhancing an already incredible tale. Loved every minute.
I cannot say enough good things about David Cox as a developer, his team, and his personal connection to the CS fanbase. My most anticipated game is LoS2.
I cannot say enough good things about David Cox as a developer, his team, and his personal connection to the CS fanbase. My most anticipated game is LoS2.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
People can hate it all they want but I honestly feel the game channeled the NES games into modern form really good.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
This game looks amazing, and the first is one of my top games ever. That said though, hopefully this game is out before E3 13, once i get a taste of next gen I wont be able to play anything current. Terrible I know.
There wiill be a trilogy wiht MoF being part 2. I still think LoS shuld be named LoS3, but I can understand why they chose not to.
Glass Rebel
Member
Two new things from Dave Cox' twitter:
Could work, I dunno. It makes sense with the modern setting and Araujo is a genius. I've been listening to the LoS soundtrack for the past few days, one of the best this generation. I hope he can sneak in some more stuff from the previous games like he did with Waterfalls of Agartha.
Yup, this basically settles it. Alucard is a Belmont, most likely Trevor post-transformation if they're still doing the Alucard = Dracula's son thing.
Could work, I dunno. It makes sense with the modern setting and Araujo is a genius. I've been listening to the LoS soundtrack for the past few days, one of the best this generation. I hope he can sneak in some more stuff from the previous games like he did with Waterfalls of Agartha.
Yup, this basically settles it. Alucard is a Belmont, most likely Trevor post-transformation if they're still doing the Alucard = Dracula's son thing.
Glass Rebel
Member
Alucard uses a sword.
Only? The Tweet near the top of the page seemed to say it was both, clearly I was reading it wrong. Thank you for clearing that up.
Glass Rebel
Member
That tweet was referring to Dracula/Gabriel. He will use a whip, a sword and at least one additional weapon. Although they hinted at it, Alucard hasn't been confirmed as a playable character for Lords of Shadow 2. They show him with a sword in all pieces of concept art. Some Mirror of Fate screens have him using something resembling a whip but the hilt looks like the one on his sword so who knows. I'll tweet Dave Cox about it to see what we can find out.
You posted one thing twice.
whoops, multitasking fail. will fix in a second.
Glass Rebel
Member
Found some more relevant tweets
please be Richter, please be Richter, please be Richter...
I'm probably reading too much into it but the second part makes me think that there are some choices involved?
Disappointing. I wonder why they're distancing themselves from the soundtrack. Maybe they just don't fit in.
This one is for you, TruePrime
please be Richter, please be Richter, please be Richter...
I'm probably reading too much into it but the second part makes me think that there are some choices involved?
Disappointing. I wonder why they're distancing themselves from the soundtrack. Maybe they just don't fit in.
This one is for you, TruePrime
Young Nobleman Of Sadness
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You have to do it mercury, you have to do it....