deadmuffin
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all of them, and all of everyone...paedophiles are just wrong
OH MY GOD where did I compare the two that way? what exactly are you reading to interpret it that way. Give me the quote! The damn comparison was to show biological factors which are not under one's control. If you feel offended that I picked homosexuality then just replace it with any other factor of your choosing. Once again the comparison was never about desires someone else wrongly quoted me as saying that when I indeed did not.levious said:Why homosexuality then? Why not compare it to uncontrollable heterosexual desires? Or why not compare it to another actual disorder.
Comparing a desire to have sex with someone of the same sex with the desire to rape a child is ridiculous... And I'm not even arguing in favor of demonizing thoughts.
BertramCooper said:So you're basically arguing that pedophilia is a sexual orientation.
If that's the case, is zoophilia and necrophilia sexual orientations, too? How about grandmaphilia?
Wickerbasket said:But those groups can actually have sex without breaking the law. Shy/fat/ugly people can have sex with other shy/fat/ugly people. The same can't be said of pedophiles, there's always the danger that they'll act on the urge to have sex. Not ever having sex isn't really all that natural.
levious said:Why homosexuality then? Why not compare it to uncontrollable heterosexual desires? Or why not compare it to another actual disorder.
Comparing a desire to have sex with someone of the same sex with the desire to rape a child is ridiculous... And I'm not even arguing in favor of demonizing thoughts.
eznark said:Homosexuals don't desire to irreparably harm others sexually, so why the insistence that pedophilia and homosexuality are somehow related?
Negative social reactions to disclosure have actually been found to be harmful to the survivors well being.[94] One study reported that children who received a bad reaction from the first person they told, especially if the person was a close family member, had worse scores as adults on general trauma symptoms, post traumatic stress disorder symptoms, and dissociation.
maharg said:What's frightening is how easily accusations of pedophilia get lobbed around in our society. Like they're around every damn corner.
Nobody Important said:With that said, for various reasons, I actually believe that bi- and homosexuality along with pedophilia is a mental illness and think no less of individuals plagued by them than those who suffer from schizophrenia or depression.
Nobody Important said:All my Bullshit
huh?selig said:What kind of jackass are you, OP?
Being a pedophile = being a bad person? gtfo
Has been said sooo many times, but: Pedophiles dont choose to be pedophile, they are what they are. And a pedophile is NOT someone who has sex with children. A pedophile is someone that finds children attractive. That´s all. Someone who actually fucks a child is a criminal, a molester, pedophile or not. And criminals and molesters are bad persons. Pedophiles are not.
You´d think at least on a board with that many non-heterosexuals, people would hesitate to hate on someone that has a different sexual attraction.
Oh I am sorry I could not read through all the BS that was just posted. Huge double standard on Gaf with shit like this being acceptable. And once again the only comparison made between homosexuality and pedophilia was that there was no choice.J-Rod said:Fuck pedos and fuck people that equate pedophilia to homosexuality. Everyone has bad thoughts from time to time, but wanting to kill someone because they pissed you off is different than wanting to kill completely innocent people because you just happen to like/dislike their face. That is more comparable with the thoughts of a pedo, and both are screwed up in the head in mine and hopefully many other's opinion. Being attracted to only a particular gender or genders which acting upon would harm no person is a far stretch from being attracted to physically, mentally, emotionally, and sexually underdeveloped people which acting upon is always harmful.
smooooooveY2Kev said:huh?
Y2Kev said:huh?
slit said:I didn't say he was, I only said there was a case to be made that he could be. BTW, how do you know he's not, you don't know what his personal life is like.
'School bully not so tough since being molested'Jarate said:This thread reminds me of this article
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-has-nakedlady-fetish,498/
Where the fuck did I say I was interested in his sexual preferences? The thread is about celebrities who you hope are not pedos, I used him as an example, end of story. It doesn't mean he's jacking off to kiddy porn right at this moment, it doesn't mean he has 12 year old sex slaves locked in his basement. He simply was accused by the law of possessing kiddy porn, thats all.Lard said:For someone with the username of Slit, you're awfully concerned about other people's sexual preferences.
slit said:Where the fuck did I say I was interested in his sexual preferences? The thread is about celebrities who you hope are not pedos, I used him as an example, end of story. It doesn't mean he's jacking off to kiddy porn right at this moment, it doesn't mean he has 12 year old sex slaves locked in his basement. He simply was accused by the law of possessing kiddy porn, thats all.
slit said:I didn't say he was, I only said there was a case to be made that he could be. BTW, how do you know he's not, you don't know what his personal life is like.
selig said:I´m heterosexual. If I wanted to teach women, would you say "but letting known heterosexuals teach women is just ridiculous"?
Pedophiles that act on their urges are rapists. And a rapist is a criminal.
Kowak said:I actually believe that bigoted views are a mental illness and think much less of individuals plagued by them and that they should be purged.
No it isn't actually, exactly how does that imply I am interested in his sexual preferences? I made a statement that he could be, as in, anyone could be if you don't know them intimately.Lard said:The End
Nobody Important said:To make sure I wasn't going to falsely accuse you of something, I looked up the word "bigot" (even though I didn't have to). I would suggest you do the same because I don't think you quite know what it means or that you are maybe looking to use a different term. Either way, "bigoted" doesn't fit.
Same herewRATH2x said:I don't think he was, but I don't want to get into it.
Salazar said:You wouldn't like the alternatives. Wear bigot around for a while, check it out from a few angles.
Thai said:and now for a new thread idea: "celebrities you really hope are pedophiles"
also, can't believe there's a pedophile defence force.
J-Rod said:Fuck pedos and fuck people that equate pedophilia to homosexuality.
maharg said:What's frightening is how easily accusations of pedophilia get lobbed around in our society. Like they're around every damn corner.
i dont see how actual child porn can be produced without the abuse of children, so it's not that big of an issue. it's equally illegal to knowingly possess and distribute 'porn' depicting actual rape of an adult individual.Locke said:Here is one thing I don't understand. When you say it is not "wrong" to be a pedophile as you don't act on your sexual preference, do you consider viewing underage pornography to be "acting?"
Nobody Important said:I actually believe that bi- and homosexuality along with pedophilia is a mental illness and think no less of individuals plagued by them than those who suffer from schizophrenia or depression.
selig said:People are equating the both in the sense of "not being able to choose what you like". You guys are pressing on one being a sickness, while saying the other one is a sexual orientation. I´m saying both are similar in the way of you being what you are, without being guilty of WHY you are the way you are.
So hating pedophiles is just as stupid as hating homosexuals. And just to make sure, because you guys are so bad at understanding this: Pedophile = someone attracted to children, criminal = someone having sex with children.
I also cant believe being called "pedophile defense force". I´m arguing against ignorance. Let me tell you, if there´s real A.I. in 10 years, and people call robophiles sick, I´ll be there to defend them.
Nobody Important said:I actually believe that bi- and homosexuality along with pedophilia is a mental illness and think no less of individuals plagued by them than those who suffer from schizophrenia or depression.
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selig said:I don´t know what you´re trying to imply, but I simply hate it when the many are picking on the few. We helped racism to end, we helped hate against homosexuality to end, and now we have to end the hate against pedophiles. It´s yet another minority that´s being hated on by the masses of ignorant people. If there was another minority that needed defending, you can be sure that I´d be there. I´m not pro-pedo, I´m anti-ignorance.
Btw. the argument "parents are afraid of pedophiles being near there children" is kind of funny, when it´s much more likely that a heterosexual is going to kill their child, than a pedophile f******g it.
Neo C. said:As far as I know from scientific researches, most pedophiles never harm children.
On the other hand, the majority (70% and more) of child molesters aren't only attracted to children, therefore they aren't pedos by scientific definition.
Just put things into perspective.
so you're saying that the longer someone goes without consenual sex, the more inclined that person is to rape?Warren Ellis said:the main problem of a pedo is that unlike etero and homosexual people he can't express his sexuality without being a rapist. So he is potentially more dangerous.
I'm not sure how you got that.Pandaman said:so you're saying that the longer someone goes without consenual sex, the more inclined that person is to rape?
interesting opinion.
Pandaman said:so you're saying that the longer someone goes without consenual sex, the more inclined that person is to rape?
interesting opinion.
i think it's more a case of...Pandaman said:so you're saying that the longer someone goes without consenual sex, the more inclined that person is to rape?
interesting opinion.