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Chadwick Boseman (42) could be Marvel's Black Panther
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Not really a "history".
Anticitizen One
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I support this
Anticitizen One
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I hope phase 3 is all new movies. No sequels unless they do a Guardians of the Galaxy II. I want to see Dr. Strange, Nova, Black Panther, Daredevil, and Ghost Rider.
How much are you willing to read? Because there's an extremely LARGE history of it Lol. If Hollywood is willing to white wash real life figures, then trust me, they wouldn't bat an eye at doing so with a fictitious character.
Rollo Tomasi
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Black Panther is awesome. He even put Silver Surfer in an armlock that one time:
shira
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A Mighty Heart
Mariane Pearl is of mixed ancestry, part of which is black. This is her in real life:
Angelina Jolie played her within the film:
- Within A Beautiful Mind, the real John Nash was married to a Hispanic woman, but the woman cast to play his wife in the film was Jennifer Connelly.
- Within the screenplay of Drive, Ryan Gosling's character's love interest was written to be Hispanic, and that character was cast with Carey Mulligan.
- Justin Chatwin played the role of Goku with Dragonball: Evolution.
- Within 21, Jim Sturgess' character (the main character) is Asian in real life.
- Within 30 Days of Night, Josh Hartnett's character is Inuit within graphic novel. And furthermore, the town in which the film takes place is only 22% white and 57% inuit, and yet the town is primarily white within the film.
- Within The Devil's Double, about Saddam Hussein's son Uday Hussein whose obviously Iraqi in real life, was played by Dominic Cooper:
- Within the movie Stuck, a real life story about a black woman convicted of murder and evidence tampering, was played by Mena Suvari within the film.
- As someone else said, The Last Airbender. And within that same year, Prince of Persia (Yes, Ancient Persians were 'Caucasians,' but so to are Arabs and they sure as hell didn't look like Gemma Arterton in that climate. And judging from EVERY OTHER character outside of the main characters look like modern day Iranians, I have a feeling the choice to cast white actors wasn't an attempt to be historically sound).
- Agent Tony Mendez in Argo is hispanic, and he's played by Ben Affleck within the film.
- Nora in Warm Bodies is half Etheopian within the novel, and is played by Analeigh Tipton in the movie. Yes, that's not exactly a common mixture to find within society, let alone one prominent enough to star within a Hollywood film, but they conveniently conceded by casting a white actor.
- Taylor Lautner playing a Native American character within Twilight, and Johnny Depp playing a Native American in The Lone Ranger, despite the fact that neither are anyway close to having significant Native American ancestry.
- With Anansi Boys, Neil Gaiman "had offers to make a film out of his 2005 best seller Anansi Boys, about the sons of an African god discovering their magical background while living in the corrupt modern world, but moviemakers wanted to change the lead black characters to white or drop the magical elements altogether."
- Ursula K. Le Guin's Earthsea was purposely created to be diverse in its ethnicities, and yet it was whitewashed once becoming a mini series to Le Guin's displeasure: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2004/12/a_whitewashed_earthsea.html
And that's just films where Hollywood actually took a non-white character and cast a white character. That doesn't touch on Hollywood's tendency to only make movies about non-white cultures from the point of view of a white character:
The Last Samurai
Dancing with Wolves
The Mummy 1, 2 and 3
The Pathfinder
The Last of the Mohicans
Hidalgo
Constant Gardener
Glory
Shanghai Noon
Last of the Dogmen
Blood Diamond
Seven Years in Tibet
10,000 BC
Tears of the Sun
The Ghost and the Darkness
The Last King of Scottland
The Killing Fields
Out of Africa
Invictus
The Blindside
Dangerous Minds
Freedom Writers
Finding Forrester
Radio
The Principal
Avatar
The Hidden Fortress
Glory Road
Machine Gun Preacher
The Help
And recently, The Impossible, where they managed to somehow make Thailand look like Germany: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgw394ZKsis
You can honestly keep going and going, for example, Hollywood's troubling demographics when it comes to cities within their films. Like The Amazing Spider Man taking place in New York, yet there being one non-white person within the entire film. Or District 9 taking place in Johannesburg, South Africa yet looking more like the Netherlands. Or The Walking Dead taking place around Atlanta, yet black characters and zombies are (were) hard to come by until recently.
FalconSabre
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I'd really like this casting choice as I've been telling friends the same thing since seeing 42 a couple weeks ago. He did such a great job in that movie. Harrison Ford stole the movie, but Chadwick Boseman was right up there too.
oh how I would love to see the bitter salty tears if they chose a White South African to play the role.
IamMattFox
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Which character is it from The Last Samurai?
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
was it a movie? was it nightman the tv series?
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
theres always hope for t'chaka. a thin, sliver of hope that can be destroyed by a gust of wind, but hope nontheless
Spring-Loaded
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Haven't read much Black Panther stuff, but I believe his character isn't just "African," he's ruler of a fictional nation of Wakanda which has been around for a long time, probably before imperialism/colonization of different parts of Africa. It wouldn't make much sense for him to be South African since I don't think Wakanda's near there, and since the role of Black Panther/king is passed down through the royal family of this old nation, he would be black.
Wakanda has already advance as fuck. They had iron tipped repeating crossbows while folks in the rest of the world was just figuring out bronze.
Tom Cruise? At that point of the post, I'm talking about Hollywood films about non-white cultures that are told from a white character's point of view. Yes, it's a true story, but there's something to be said about Hollywood only green lighting those types of films if the desire to make a film regarding a non-white culture arises.
Edit: And you know deep down ya'll want a mocha colored brotha to play Black Panther:
Just imagine Boris Kodjoe as T'Challa, surrounded by his equally light skinned countrymen. Maybe they'll cast Drake if we're lucky.
kame-sennin
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John Wayne as Genghis Khan.
I was able to name ~15 movies just going back a roughly a decade. If you go back through out the history of cinema, you'll easily come up with hundreds upon hundreds of examples. You could probably name 100+ just in the Western genre alone Lol.
kame-sennin
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Yea, but in all of cinema, this is the one that really blows me away.
Well, it's the 50s. You'd be hard pressed to find Native American, Asian, Middle Eastern, Mexican or Indian characters that are appropriately portrayed by actors/actresses that share a common ancestry with the character they're playing
I suppose they have could picked a more versatile actor though hahaindeed, the king of all miscasts
even worse than Keanu Reeves playing Constantine (my personal worst casting choice EVER and still painful)
well, that and Kevin Hood
Don't think that might have something to do with the fact that from the moment they first appeared on screen together they were at odds with each other?
Cheadle didn't get to have a film where he was friends with Tony
John Wayne as Genghis Khan.
Jesus Christ?
Dammit, I was hoping Stringer Bell could make it. I guess he's too old.
Hollywood has always found ways to keep minorities out of starring roles.
Lol, I know about white washing in cinema (surprised no one cited Prince of Persia) but I was being super specific and thinking more about minority superhero roles being filled by white actors which I was genuinely curious about since I don't read comics much and wouldn't know the difference.
Anticitizen One
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Anticitizen One
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I believe it was one of the first (if not the very first) films to have a black lead actor and that whole controversy is bullshit i've seen the film.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
OP pic looks like Batman with rabies.
ummm....
what?
A few lead movies with black lead actors does not disprove Hollywood's history of whitewashing and avoiding putting minorities in roles.
Not even close. You're honestly decades off. Race films (All Black films) existed in the 1910s, and the Stepin Fetchit was starring in Hollywood films decades before Song of the South released. Movies like Hallelujah! and Hearts in Dixie (late 1920s) were not only some of the first studio films to star black people, but they were all black films to boot. And the controversy is completely warranted. The movie is inexplicably racist and a product of its time, but it (or any other movie) shouldn't be banned.
Have a look at my last post in this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=56529948&postcount=59 and this article I wrote months back: http://postracecinema.co.nf/?p=31
cutmeamango
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- El Savadoran (by birthplace) but with white complexion and french heritage.
- Dragon Ball is japanese (manga origin), but it is not set on Japan. There is little to none physiognomical contrast aside coloring for various races and supposed ethnies too. And he is a saiyan. Monkey God is chinese though.
- http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/10/argos-real-tony-mendez-im-not-hispanic/
He is half italian/irish/french and not sure on the hispanic part in mexico (might be native, who knows).
- I don't even know what to say about the bolds on the list.
Hollywood favors 'white' people telling their stories from their perspectives?
Constant Gardener > Based on real events. Activist that died in Africa happened to be white?
7 years > Austrian dude (who happens to be white too) wrote what he did and experienced.
Invictus > Real and documented events, there's a good reason why the movie follows Damon, (and Freeman) and they are both south africans.
- Have you even seen The Impossible?
There may be other bad exemples there, wouldn't know.
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On topic, dude looks good for the part, haven't seen him as an actor yet.
Rice-Eater
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That's nice, now try again, except with Asians in non-Martial art movies
A film being based on a true story means nothing. There are plenty of amazing stories regarding these non-white countries and cultures, but Hollywood seems to exclusively latch onto those that involve white people.
You honestly think Hollywood cast Goku/the characters within Avatar: The Last Airbender because animated characters can be ethnically ambiguous? No, they went into the casting process with a preconceived notion of what they were looking for (http://racebending.com/castinglead.jpg) You think they cast Johnny Depp as Tonto or Taylor Lautner as Jacob because one of their ancestors 6+ generations back was Native American? No, that's some bullshit they cooked up after being called out. You think Hollywood cast Jake Gyllenhaal because they were worried about the accuracy of ancient demographics? You think Hollywood just happens to always hand pick projects based on real facts that are from the point of view of a white person? You're dense if you do. Pretty much all signs point to the Hollywood having a race issue at this point, and coming up with bullshit reasons for why that's not the case isn't going to help to rectify it.
I have and it's a very weird watch indeed, left a very bad taste in my mouth.
Face it Tiger..
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Idris or bust. I don't care how old he'll be. they can put him in a muscle suit like Solid Snake by the time i'm done with him.
bigboss370
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uhh, yes they do >_>
Idris or bust. I don't care how old he'll be. they can put him in a muscle suit like Solid Snake by the time i'm done with him.
when has Idris ever gotten a big lead role in a big movie?
Anticitizen One
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Hoya Destroyer
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What came first, the militant black rights group or this Marvel character?
The Marvel character by a couple months. The character first appeared in Fantastic Four #52 in July 1966; the political party was officially founded in October 1966.
Idris or bust. I don't care how old he'll be. they can put him in a muscle suit like Solid Snake by the time i'm done with him.
Saving him to be Jon Stewart in Justice League. He'd pretty much the only hope that character has at being interesting.
Face it Tiger..
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The character, (July 1966) and the beginnings of the party, you asked? (October, 1966)
EDIT: da fuq? before I refreshed ReiGun's BP post didn't exist, Rei.. your ninja edit wasn't stealthy enough dude.
Hoya Destroyer
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Its pretty crazy that their origins are so close.
No, they don't. Ancient Persians were Caucasian/Aryan, there's no denying that, but Aryan isn't solely blonde hair, blue eyes and fair skin like Hitler suggested. That's a perversion of the term. Ancient Persians were technologically advanced, but they didn't have the power to overcome the effects of region and climate on complexion and phenotypic traits. There's plenty of 'white' Iranians today, and they look nothing like Gemma Arterton.
After being cast as Heimdall in a Marvel film, good luck with him being Green Lantern in a DC film. I actually wanted Chadwick to be Green Lantern.
It all comes down to good writing and direction though. I think Edris is a bit too old for most parts now. He's like almost 41 years old now.
bigboss370
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you were talking about arabs not ancient persians. just google it man, some girls are even lighter skin toned than arterton.
why do you have white in quotations?
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