Can get it cheaper if you buy from the us psn. Depends whether you want to mess around with a us account and buying us psn credit from Amazon.com.I'm waiting for £150 bundled with NSMBU and 3DW. Almost hoping for a dismal holiday period for them in UK to force a price cut.
Back on topic: Is NFS:Rivals (PS4) priced decently anywhere? It seems to be £45+ at every single retailer. Wondering if I should just pop in to GAME after work and (begrudgingly) pay up
Can get it cheaper if you buy from the us psn. Depends whether you want to mess around with a us account and buying us psn credit from Amazon.com.
You can still play a us psn bought copy on your eu account.
Hmm, so let me get this straight.
1. I make a US PSN account.
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Is that it? Do trophies and stuff carry over? And is it legal?
Also you won't be able to buy DLC.
Hmm, so let me get this straight.
1. I make a US PSN account.
2. I login on my PS4 with the US account.
3. I buy / redeem US PSN Credit
4. I buy a game from the US Store
5. I log out of my US account and log back in on my EU account.
6. I can play the game I bought in the US Store
Is that it? Do trophies and stuff carry over? And is it legal?
You need to go into the psn section of your ps4 when logged into the us account and make the console your primary console.Hmm, so let me get this straight.
1. I make a US PSN account.
2. I login on my PS4 with the US account.
3. I buy / redeem US PSN Credit
4. I buy a game from the US Store
5. I log out of my US account and log back in on my EU account.
6. I can play the game I bought in the US Store
Is that it? Do trophies and stuff carry over? And is it legal?
Not true, you can just buy the dlc for it on your US account.Also you won't be able to buy DLC.
He is. But DLC is region locked. Which means if he owns a US release of a game, then only US DLC will work (most of the time). The DLC is active system-wide, which means you have to get it from US PSN, but you can use a UK, HK, JP or whatever PSN account to actually play the content. (this applies to PS3, I guess it's the same on PS4)
No. Sony condones it, but according to their TOS it's illegal.
Also you won't be able to buy DLC.
So if you buy DLC on your US account and install it, you can also play it through your EU account?
At least that's how it worked on PS3. My actual PSN account is from HK. But I also got additional PSN accounts from UK, US + JP to buy/download stuff/enter online passes/etc.. This even works for PSN+ "free" games.
He is. But DLC is region locked. Which means if he owns a US release of a game, then only US DLC will work (most of the time). The DLC is active system-wide, which means you have to get it from US PSN, but you can use a UK, HK, JP or whatever PSN account to actually play the content. (this applies to PS3, I guess it's the same on PS4)
That's how it worked on the ps3. I can't see why they would change it and I've not seen anyone mention it has been changed.So if you buy DLC on your US account and install it, you can also play it through your EU account?
I don't think it's illegal to buy stuff from the us store as some people legitimately move countries etc and you can't change the country an account is assigned to.
Yes. On PS3 at least. I'm playing almost exclusively using my HK account all the time.
And you don't even have to install it using your US account. You only have to buy it and download from there.
Online passes work the same.
That's how it worked on the ps3. I can't see why they would change it and I've not seen anyone mention it has been changed.
It IS illegal to buy stuff from the US PSN store if you don't live in the US.
Yes. On PS3 at least. I'm playing almost exclusively using my HK account all the time.
And you don't even have to install it using your US account. You only have to buy it and download from there.
Online passes work the same.
illegal as in "against TOS". Not law-based illegal.
Pretty sure people would complain if they did ban you for it because people won't want to start games(can't earn trophies if the save is tied to another account) over, lose all the games they've legitimately bought and lose all their trophies.It IS illegal to buy stuff from the US PSN store if you don't live in the US.
Sure, if you move, it would no longer be illegal. But then your EU account wouldn't be legal anymore.
If you want to make a new US account on your PS3, they ask for your home address. People in the EU making such an account lie about their whereabouts, which is not allowed according to Sony's TOS.
Sony isn't going to ban you for doing so at this point. But they withhold every right to do so whenever they want.
Pretty sure people would complain if they did ban you for it because people won't want to start games(can't earn trophies if the save is tied to another account) over, lose all the games they've legitimately bought and lose all their trophies.
I get that bit what I mean is that I'm not sure that would stand in the European Court at the least. The fact you've legitimately bought games in the US then moved to the EU and your games in the US get revoked even though you did pay for them.That might be, my point was merely that it is illegal to get yourself a US account and buy stuff there in the EU. And it's against Sony's TOS. So they could ban you for it and be completely in their rights to do so.
I get that bit what I mean is that I'm not sure that would stand in the European Court at the least. The fact you've legitimately bought games in the US then moved to the EU and your games in the US get revoked even though you did pay for them.
Ofcourse I'm no lawyer though so me saying this probably means very little.
Well depends how long you've been living in eu when they do it but I suppose. It's rubbish for the consumer eitherway. Fundamental issue of digital downloads in general I suppose you only own a license so you are just at the whim of the company.Well, I guess first of all your example is somewhat of an exception.
I'm no lawyer either, but ...
- if you move from here to the US, you can't go to European Court, because they have no jurisdiction over US residents.
- and if you would move from the US to here, and went to the European Court, I'm pretty sure the court would rule that it concerns a contract between an American company (Sony USA) and you (a then resident of the USA) and that that would be way beyond their jurisdiction.
So either way, you don't stand a chance.
I'm waiting for £150 bundled with NSMBU and 3DW. Almost hoping for a dismal holiday period for them in UK to force a price cut.
Back on topic: Is NFS:Rivals (PS4) priced decently anywhere? It seems to be £45+ at every single retailer. Wondering if I should just pop in to GAME after work and (begrudgingly) pay up
*cries* I just bought a blue one for the regular £150. :|
A slightly different scenario. I have an Australian/EU copy of BF4. If I buy Premium via my US PSN account I won't be able to use it on my main EU Account right?
Actually I think it's fraud according to the law. Also note that you didn't pay VAT in your home country.
any decent deals on a 500gb PS3? (sub 199 hopefully)
On PS3 this wouldn't work most of the time.
And I mean it wouldn't work at all. You would get the DLC, but it wouldn't apply to your game. Could be different on PS4 though.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/free-10-psn-credit-for-sun-members-1750434
Just throwing that out there for those interested.
It IS illegal to buy stuff from the US PSN store if you don't live in the US.
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Dash Kappei said:NTSC/PAL labels bear no meaning for portable games, those two are video standards. You should just refer to them as EU/US/UK/etc versions.
The NTSC/PAL division bears no meaning for portable gaming, sure, but it does hold a clear regional division as to where the game will actually work (on local systems).
EU/US/UK/etc does not as EU and UK are in the same region. UK is part of the EU actually even though they don't always want to be. ;-)
Lol wut
No it's not. Maybe against the TOS, but "illegal" as in against the law? Don't be ridiculous.
edit: didn't mean to come off as rude tho, just want to specify that )
It doesn't, since then you would assume an (incorrectly) labeled portable NTSC game to work on any NTSC console, while that isn't the case since Japan uses NTSC as well, it's not a NA only thing.
Actually it does, since it's used to distinguish EU skus to UK skus, where in some cases you have the same pressed disc for all of EU while a different one just for UK (like Sony's first party stuff), which means language options present in the disc are different between the two versions. For some Nintendo portable titles (and also some X360/Ps3 games) it is actually necessary to also distinguish between regional version within EU, with games ranging from supporting only the local language (some of Layton's or Inazuma Eleven for example) or be all different kinds of Multi 2, Multi 3 (like PES) or Multi 5 releases. Multi 7 releases tend to be the same everywhere.
@Jimi_dini: your argument about your purchase having to be above the import tax amount is completely void. Even if you're importing something cheap, you still have to report the cost of the imported goods, and clearly you're not doing that.
The cost of imported goods is written on the package itself. The sender has to declare it. I personally don't have to report anything. Customs will stop packages with a higher value and I would have to collect it and pay the fees (I do exactly that quite regulary). They will also stop packages at random and check the contents/check the value, that is written on the package.
If I buy something worth $5 from US PSN and report that to a customs official, he would think I'm crazy, laugh at me and send me home.
Batman Arkham Origins for £19.85
Mario & Sonic at Sochi 2014 for £19.85
True, but technically it IS what the law prescribes. Either the seller or you have to declare the value of imported goods. If the price is on the package, that part is dealt with.
At the risk of derailing the thread (apologies feel free to ignore or split this out) what is your view on Borderlinx
http://www.borderlinx.com/
They offer you an american address you can have things shipped to , they will then ship them to you (you pay them to handle the packages and to mail them on to you)
Is their whole business model illegal because when asked for a delivery address i enter their details and have things shipped there and then on to me ?
From what I can see when creating a US PSN account it asks me to enter billing information and an address - it doesnt ask me where I live ?
I thought eshop game codes marked as Download on GAME's website would be immediate delivery via the website or email, is that not the case?
I got my code for Super Mario 3D World the second I payed via PayPal.
GAME legal bullshit said:NB - Please note that all of our orders, including orders for download products, are subject to authorisation checks by our accounts team before being processed. This may therefore delay the despatch of your order or sending of your download code until the next working day.