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Christina Aguilera's BIONIC thread (amazing producers lineup inside!)

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Ninja Scooter said:
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I recon half of gaf has his genes.
 
inthezone said:
Well since she started doing exactly that in 2007 (same time as GaGa came out) I dont see how she's "copying".

I really hope nobody here thinks GaGa is the first to come out with that sound, even on Top 40 charts.
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True, but Lady Gaga did it better.
 
whytemyke said:
No Timbaland? No Lil Wayne? No Drake? No T Pain?
what is WRONG with the world?!!!! X-O

Better Christina video: Fighter or Dirty? Dirty was sexy as hell, AND it had Redman which is always a plus, but Fighter was a sweet video.
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Christina just bumped up 40 points on the hot meter for not working with any of the big 4 ruining music lately...and also those post-preggers jugs goddam

Also Fighter wins mostly for Dave Navarro on guitar (regardless of the video)
 
Medalion said:
BIONIC?

Lemme guess, is the album going to be techno-y new wavey dance pop to compete with Lady Gaga?
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and with better producers too! Hopefully this freaking can stay somewhat consistent, otherwise it's just another singles album, like most other pop albums.
 
inthezone said:
PRODUCERS ON BOARD

Goldfrapp
Ladytron
M.I.A.
Santigold,
Diplo & Switch (Major Lazer)
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These all sound great, particularly Major Lazer. Way too many people sipping the Gaga kool-aid around here. Aside from Poker Face and Just Dance the rest of her songs are shite. And I really can only listen to the instrumentals of those songs now.
 
Maxwell House said:
I hate her use of unnecessary vocal acrobatics. Shit sounds retarded.
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I know, she is easily one of if not the best female vocalist around but she fucking ruins it with her vocal acrobatics!
 
krypt0nian said:
When did Gaga ever give anyone the idea that she was sleeping around with everyone?
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GAF assumes every female celebrity sleeps around with guys who can help them.
 
Instigator said:
Wow, reminds me of her Aguilera in the late 90's.
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It's her on the set of Burlesque, a movie set in the 90s. And I think she looks pretty hot. Nice change from the '50s look with white curls and red lipstick she's been sporting for a few years now.

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krypt0nian said:
That was the worst example of her faults. :lol That was fantastic and she has reigned in her admittedly excessive "vocal gymnastics" of years past.

Some of you obviously have no vocal training. Now here's the proper use of a :facepalm:
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I don't think you understand. It's one of the worst example because it's supposedly one of her more restrained performances. Already halfway through the song, she's been infected by the melisma disease.

Excessive use of runs has nothing to do with "vocal training." LMU might be more vocally restrained than say, MKOC, but that doesn't invalidate the fact that she did over sing that latter half.
 
3pheMeraLmiX said:
I don't think you understand. It's one of the worst example because it's supposedly one of her more restrained performances. Already halfway through the song, she's been infected by the melisma disease.

Excessive use of runs has nothing to do with "vocal training." LMU might be more vocally restrained than say, MKOC, but that doesn't invalidate the fact that she did over sing that latter half.
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Couldn't disagree more. Her restraint is mature and the emotion apparent. No over-singing noted.
 
krypt0nian said:
Couldn't disagree more. Her restraint is mature and the emotion apparent. No over-singing noted.
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That was my belief the first half of the song. She held the notes and the emotion was thick, and then the runs came. After the falsetto bridge, the the run after the long-held note was fine, but it was sections like "if you lift me up" followed by two runs and then a third that scales upward. Or sections like:

"When you see me crashing
and there's nowhere left to fa--a-a-all
Will you lift me even higher-er--er-ah-er
to rise above it a-a-all."

Comparative to her standards, I'd say -- yes, definitely more mature. But she's tackled songs with similar tonality like Hurt, I'm Okay, Oh Mother, etc. LMU has more emotional palpability, but aren't even the slightest bit curious to how much more effective it could have been?
 
I agree with the people who say she uses "acrobatics" too much. She doesn't have to sing straight and plain all the time, but I like it when she keeps the same note for more than just a fraction of a second. Also, when she screams her voice can be a little hard on my ears. I think her voice is the most enjoyable when she is singing not so loudly, like in the beginning of The Voice Within.

Still, the woman is an amazing singer and I appreciate lots of her music. When she hits those high notes I often get goosebumps just because I know it's an impressive achievement to reach those.
 
Amazing producers a good record does not make.

Judging by the list I'm going to hate this record. She should stick to classical style.
Do what Gaga should be doing rather than trying to compete with the freakshow.
 
Buckethead said:
Amazing producers a good record does not make.

Judging by the list I'm going to hate this record. She should stick to classical style.
Do what Gaga should be doing rather than trying to compete with the freakshow.
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Do not listen to this one.
 
Buckethead said:
Amazing producers a good record does not make.

Judging by the list I'm going to hate this record. She should stick to classical style.
Do what Gaga should be doing rather than trying to compete with the freakshow.
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I have no idea what you're getting at. Are you saying this album will be a freak show? That Christina should do the same as Gaga? That gaga is a freak show? ... Honest question.
 
RE: Souldriver
I'm saying that Christina should just be a quality musician, stick close to the piano, and away from beats.
Gotta make yourself stand out. Her voice is her asset, use it, don't let it get buried under a bunch of dance filth.

She'll never compete with Gaga as far as her freaky-kermit style or arrangements.
IMO, she has to counteract that with the smarts and maturity. BTB was a step in the right direction.

RE: krypt0nian
What exactly do you disagree with?
There's too many hands in the pot. And judging by most of the list, the record will be EQ-ed and auto-tuned to hell.

Would like to hear a Sia and Linda Perry only produced record though.
 
I guess I hate when artists stop stretching and growing. She should do what feels right at the moment and not try and be classic at all. That's how you become redundant IMO.

The days of single producers on pop cds are almost behind us. I look forward to the variety really.
 
Buckethead said:
Her voice is her asset, use it, don't let it get buried under a bunch of dance filth.
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The two aren't mutually exclusive. A voice can still completely envelop and interpret a song, be pleasant, human, appropriately utilized, and instantly recognizable in this breed of song without being "buried."

If you don't like the the electronic/dance backing tracks, that's fair...but the most important and emotive vocal characteristics can (and should) still be one of the most prominent stars of the show even behind a paint-by-numbers pop song and slick dance arrangement. It's up to her and the producers, but it's possible.

Sitting behind a piano and belting is not the best-or-only way to showcase a voice or its interpretation of a song. I'm glad that, at this point, RedOne and Gaga understand that - live performances aside.

She'll never compete with Gaga as far as her freaky-kermit style or arrangements.
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Freaky style, who cares...but arrangements - why not? Christina herself has yet to sound as enjoyable or comfortable as she did in '99, on slick upbeat contemporary productions (Love For All Seasons, What a Girl Wants, Genie In a Bottle, etc).

She and her producers got it right, and her vocal style didn't yet sound more like she was exercising and flexing her vocal muscles instead of trying to deliver a song to us.

Christina adopting a bit more vocal subtlety and taking on, say, some RedOne songs has every opportunity to yield great results.
 
I don't like it when pop stars/vocalists over sing. It cheapens the song, and Christina and Jessica Simpson, along with a majority of R&B singers are almost always guilty of this. It's not the same thing as Aretha or Otis Redding losing their minds so stick to the material that is written for you and look pretty for the camera.
 
see5harp said:
I don't like it when pop stars/vocalists over sing. It cheapens the song, and Christina and Jessica Simpson, along with a majority of R&B singers are almost always guilty of this. It's not the same thing as Aretha or Otis Redding losing their minds so stick to the material that is written for you and look pretty for the camera.
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You sure it's not just you hating todays female singers in general instead of their "over singing"?
 
Not really. I honestly don't think any Christina single has ever been as good as the Britney singles, and she barely sings at all. Christina is a good singer but to me she's a hustle player if we can use sports as an analogy. Both her and Pink are both hustle players. Neko Case has a better voice than either of them, so for me, yes, I'd rather she get trendy and at least use some producers that I respect.
 
see5harp said:
Not really. I honestly don't think any Christina single has ever been as good as the Britney singles, and she barely sings at all. Christina is a good singer but to me she's a hustle player if we can use sports as an analogy. Both her and Pink are both hustle players. Neko Case has a better voice than either of them, so for me, yes, I'd rather she get trendy and at least use some producers that I respect.
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Who are you kidding. You're in a thread about Christina Aguilera. Nobody knows the sports term "hustle".
 
see5harp said:
I don't like it when pop stars/vocalists over sing. It cheapens the song, and Christina and Jessica Simpson, along with a majority of R&B singers are almost always guilty of this. It's not the same thing as Aretha or Otis Redding losing their minds so stick to the material that is written for you and look pretty for the camera.
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agreed completely. maria carey started this shit.

Christina has a great voice, but i hate what she does with it.. keep it fucking clean, simple and honest....

not to mention the voice raping ear bleeding shit other R&B singers do...
 
Souldriver said:
Who are you kidding. You're in a thread about Christina Aguilera. Nobody knows the sports term "hustle".
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If you don't understand why I'm referring to Christina and Jessica Simpson as singers that try too hard, then sorry. I was just trying to put it in layman's terms without sounding overly snarky. But yea, Christina Aguilera is a Jeff Hornacek type player of the league. She is effective but ain't exactly graceful with that ugly ass running jumpshot.
 
I never cared much about christina or her voice. That production lineup is hot though. We'll see, she's always been just a big voice to me, no subtly, no personality. Other less talented vocalists did more with less.

She's definitely looking good these days. Before, I found her bony and dirty looking.
 
inthezone said:
PRODUCERS ON BOARD

Linda Perry
Goldfrapp
Ladytron
Sia Furler
M.I.A.
Le Tigre
Santigold,
Diplo & Switch (Major Lazer)
Focus
Dr. Luke
Tricky Stewart
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From that list it looks like it'll be an extremely varied sounding record. Really excited to hear tracks by the bolded producers.
 
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