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Christopher Nolan's Batman 3: July 20, 2012 (HYPEEEEEEEEE)
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It would actually be pretty amusing to bring The Riddler in to fuck with Bats when the guy is already feeling pretty low. By the end of The Dark Knight, both his girl and Harvey Dent are dead, and Batman is on the run. And then the king of the trolls himself, the Riddler, shows up with the mind games? Bale will rage.
Depp is my favorite actor but I think bringing the Joker back in any capacity is just asking for disaster. Katie Holmes ---> Maggie G. was jarring enough, and she's a minor character relative to the Joker.
If they bring the Joker back they're just asking for direct comparisons to Ledger's interpretation, and that's the last thing they could possibly want. I know they had always planned for the character to return, but tragedy struck, so they have to figure something else out. Fortunately for them, they're making a comic book movie, so they have a stable of villains to choose from rather than having to rely on just one antagonist. Certainly, none come close to the Joker, but he already did his thing.
GQman2121 said:
Depp is my favorite actor but I think bringing the Joker back in any capacity is just asking for disaster. Katie Holmes ---> Maggie G. was jarring enough, and she's a minor character relative to the Joker.
If they bring the Joker back they're just asking for direct comparisons to Ledger's interpretation, and that's the last thing they could possibly want. I know they had always planned for the character to return, but tragedy struck, so they have to figure something else out. Fortunately for them, they're making a comic book movie, so they have a stable of villains to choose from rather than having to rely on just one antagonist. Certainly, none come close to the Joker, but he already did his thing.
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Doc Holliday said:Riddler
Penguin
we can dream right?
SCULLIBUNDO
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Cool.
Man-Bat should be one of the villains, particularly after the ending of The Dark Knight. A monster mistaken for the Batman attacking people would help further perpetuate the Batman = terrible menace sentiment. Plus, we've already had mob crime and insane people as villains, it's time for a monster. But I wouldn't be averse to a second one that was more intelligent (The Riddler preferably).
Batman 3 should involve Batman falling further into psychosis, and battling his own sanity. He should fall further from his rules than ever...perhaps even break one. Then, of course, he will overcome all this and return as Gotham's hero.
Batman 4 should be 20 years in the future and take elements from The Dark Knight Returns.
Batman 4 should be 20 years in the future and take elements from The Dark Knight Returns.
pitt_norton
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My birthday... that is all.
I think they could do a really good the Dark Knight Returns storyline after the ending to the Dark Knight. Batman hangs up his cowl due to the pressure of being wanted, but years later the Joker escapes or something and he has to return to being Batman. Depending on how many years they have pass, they could get new actors for the Joker and/or Batman to make it work. But despite how awesome I think that could be, I doubt they would do it so soon. They need to milk the franchise for more money first.
Rindain said:
Batman 4/The Dark Knight Returns should star Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne/Batman and some older guy as an older Heath Ledger Joker I'm not sure who though.
I'm a firm believer that if TDK was supposed to set up a third part of the trilogy that needed the Joker, they should just recast the Joker as someone else. No other villain in comic books lives up to the Joker so let's not even pretend a third one with the Riddler or whoever would be anything less than disappointing (even if it wound up being good- which I'm sure it will).
If they do skip on the Joker for part 3 (they originally planned to have Heath in the third), "The Dark Knight Returns" would be pretty great, especially if part 3 has Batman hanging up the cowl "for good."
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I forgot Rachel even existed. :lolMedalion said:
Some other super heroes need to show up on the scene to take out the batman since the world apparently thinks batman is a bad guy at the moment. Some villain should raise the stakes on this and frame him for bigger and bigger stuff, and then the batman can face off with the heroes, and win them over, then they can fight the villain together at the end.
Throw in a toxic sadomasochistic relationship between batman and cat woman (since batman is on the rebound from love lost/blowed up) and we have a movie.
Throw in a toxic sadomasochistic relationship between batman and cat woman (since batman is on the rebound from love lost/blowed up) and we have a movie.
Medalion said:
Heath Ledger's performance was fantastic, but there's nothing that says the Joker has to look and sound exactly the same from film to film. They touch upon this in the Arkham Asylum comic.
I think if this is a trilogy that ends, there will need to be a Dark Knight Returns. It would be a good way to bring back the characters without them being the same actors, and give a realistic reason why they might behave a little differently (especially if it's been 20-30 years). I don't see Joker saying "you and I are destined to do this forever" and then completely vanishing. He brought the entire damn city to its knees.
EDIT: Yeah, I'm really pulling for JGL as new Joker.
UnluckyKate
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I NEED SCISSORS said:
Of course.
Who seriously think that Parker stand a chance against Bruce Wayne ?
I hate to be the harbinger of doom. But there is no way in hell Batman 3 gets the same critical reception nor the same amount of box office success TDK. I say this as a man who loves the shit out of Nolan's films. I'm definitely not counting on it doing as good as TDK in both aspects ( while I think it has the potential to be as good if not better than TDK.) It's just the way things go. Critics love steering on the bandwagon, only to steer it into a wall of hate and bad talk.
Quote me on this, if it gets better reviews than TDK.
Quote me on this, if it gets better reviews than TDK.
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Never doubt. This grievance will be remembered.Veidt said:
The correct answer to the problem of the villains is one of two things:
1. Riddler. We have seen Bats kick several metric tons of ass, but we've barely seen him detect at all. Having the Riddler in the flick would allow us to see Batman think through his problems and be the World's Greatest Detective. Nolan is good enough to make a psychological Batman movie work, and they could play up the compulsion aspect if they wanted to.
2. Black Mask vs. Penguin to fill the power vacuum left by Joker after he's sent off to Arkham. This is more in line with people being seemingly unable to be satisfied with just one antagonist, which personally bothers me, but whatever. These two would be really easy to pull off realistically, too, since the only superpower they have is an exceptionally good human resources department.
1. Riddler. We have seen Bats kick several metric tons of ass, but we've barely seen him detect at all. Having the Riddler in the flick would allow us to see Batman think through his problems and be the World's Greatest Detective. Nolan is good enough to make a psychological Batman movie work, and they could play up the compulsion aspect if they wanted to.
2. Black Mask vs. Penguin to fill the power vacuum left by Joker after he's sent off to Arkham. This is more in line with people being seemingly unable to be satisfied with just one antagonist, which personally bothers me, but whatever. These two would be really easy to pull off realistically, too, since the only superpower they have is an exceptionally good human resources department.
Robin gets no respect. 
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If you're right, there's nothing in it for anybody. WE ALL LOSE.Veidt said:
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I was hoping for 2013 or 2014. Would love to see Batman 3 go head to head with A2.
*runs from thread after lighting fuse*
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GQman2121 said:
Wrong Nolan, even if he is apart of everything.
Sorta veering off -topic here but relating to TDK
I was watching the Final season of Frasier on DVD, and there is the boyfriend of Frasier's love interest in the final half of the season... I kept thinking the guy looked and sounded so damned familiar, then this topic reminded of The Dark knight and I was like HOLY SHIT, that's Harvey Dent!
I was watching the Final season of Frasier on DVD, and there is the boyfriend of Frasier's love interest in the final half of the season... I kept thinking the guy looked and sounded so damned familiar, then this topic reminded of The Dark knight and I was like HOLY SHIT, that's Harvey Dent!
I love how people make the fact that joker was awesome because ONLY of Ledger .... like he directed, he writed the lines, he made the concept art for the makeup, he asked himself to "act more like a psychopat and less of a clown", he ....
=P
He was an AWESOME actor in that role ... but another good actor can do the role justice easily =P
Like Depp ... but i think he would do a better Riddler
...even if he was in autopilot as the Mad Hatter ... but hey ! Diferent Batman villain =P
I think he is talking more in a
sense
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=P
He was an AWESOME actor in that role ... but another good actor can do the role justice easily =P
Like Depp ... but i think he would do a better Riddler
...even if he was in autopilot as the Mad Hatter ... but hey ! Diferent Batman villain =P
ruuk said:
I think he is talking more in a
this videoe with Tim Drake in the Return of the Joker
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Discotheque said:
Veidt said:
Will this be the new "Heath Ledger as the Joker? Shit movie confirmed."?
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Platy said:
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A meme is born.Scullibundo said:
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DMczaf said:
I see no reason why they couldn't just call the third movie "Batman". Contextually it makes sense, Gordan is now Commissioner, presumably the bat-cave will be back in action as well as the bat signal), Bruce's love interest is dead, and his rogues gallery is now well established.
Nolan is effectively ending the trilogy where most of Batman's reiterations begin :lol
Nolan is effectively ending the trilogy where most of Batman's reiterations begin :lol
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Batman: Escalation
Red Scarlet
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What's a psychopat?
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Red Scarlet said:
Nelson: You're doing it wrong. You gotta pet him hard so he can feel it.
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They could easy include the Joker without needing an actor for the role. I think it would be ballsy if JGL was cast, but they pulled something similar to in The Killing Joke where the Joker that appears is just some sucker dressed up as him to fool Batman. It could also be a cheap trick. I dunno.
anyway, 2012 redeemed. If we're going out, we're going out in style!
anyway, 2012 redeemed. If we're going out, we're going out in style!
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Beowulf28 said:
Me. Personally, I like Robin. He (Damian Wayne) is kind of kick ass in the comics. I think the previous movies have given him a bad name. And Dick Grayson went on to become the also awesome Nightwing.
I think it would be good introducing Dick Grayson. Have him be adopted near the end, but we don't see any Robin stuff.
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