DeaconKnowledge
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Rayne.S said:
Price drops aren't doing shit without games. Especially since there are two more successful competitors selling their consoles for less..
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Price drops aren't doing shit without games. Especially since there are two more successful competitors selling their consoles for less..
Karma said:
-Blu-ray currently winning the next gen format war agianst the HD-DVD with the help of the PS3
-The PS2 is still outselling the Xbox 360 worldwide
-PS3 is selling at a similar rate to the Xbox 360 even with a $200 higher price point for a year.
- PSP still selling well and Sony succeeded in entering the handheld market where other companies failed, although its not selling as well as the DS but that doesnt mean they cant coexist with each other.
frankthurk
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DeaconKnowledge said:
Price drops = more consoles sold = more companies willing to make more games. It's sure as hell a lot better than leaving it at $600 and twiddling their thumbs.
BenjaminBirdie
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belvedere said:
How can it end the thread when it's already been debunked in the post above yours?
fortified_concept
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gkrykewy said:
beerbelly said:
Well as much as I hate that laughing emoticon I'm relieved to see your not taking this seriously. What I believe isn't much since I'm on the outside not even being able to look in but you asked so Ill accommodate. They originally said from the beginning they will launch different consoles as time goes by. Does it look off that they seem to be coming out quicker than what we would conceive as normal? Sure. Remember though they have 360 and Wii gripping the market faster then they would like so making changes sooner than later for the long term agenda should also be looked upon as an adjustment of the 10 year plan.
BenjaminBirdie
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Wollan said:
Isn't that a bit irrelavent when a game they didn't even publish but was exclusive to their platform sells as much as two or three of those?
belvedere said:It can't, thanks to the predictable nature of posts made by the likes of you, and others.
I'd like to think I'm contributing a bit more to the discussion than, literally, "QFMFT, /thread".
RavenFox said:
Keep on laughing, old sport. Having a sense of humor is good for your health!
And yeah, Sony's 10 year plan is shot to hell right now. A $200 price drop within a year of release is unprecedented and kinda insane if you think about it.
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Forgotten Ancient
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kevm3 said:
It's always been about the price:features ratio and perceived future outlook for me.
The PS3 wasn't worth $500 at launch when everyone expected the thing to be sold out for months and ultimately surpass the 360 in every territory. If the PS3 wasn't worth $500 for me WITH BC and a positive prospectus, it sure as hell isn't worth it at $400 without BC and quite literally a worst case scenario situation.
People keep using the same tired accusations of others having an agenda when their perceived value of the PS3 dwindles. Why are you and others so hell-bent on trying to convince us what $400 is worth to us? You were able to justify the purchase for yourself, but that doesn't apply to very many other people.
BenjaminBirdie
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Wollan said:
BioShock: Lair, Heavenly Sword
I hope you didn't miss my post buried on the last page. I'm actually quite serious and pitched you a pretty great concept...
BenjaminBirdie
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belvedere said:
Wait, hold on, what?
BenjaminBirdie
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belvedere said:
Absolutely not. Of course it does. I'm just curious as to whom this sentence fragment refers to:
Forgotten Ancient
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Rayne.S said:
I think it's better to say:
GAF with launch PS3 (with BC) at $599: It needs to be at least $399 or else game over.
Gaf with failing PS3 (w/o BC) at $399: It needs to have BC and a healthier lineup.
Give me a PS3 @ $399 with all the features the original $599 model had, and I'll probably bite. Take away features that don't do much to reduce component cost but significantly reduce the value to me for $399 and I won't.
I bought Earthbound for about $100 on Ebay awhile back. I traded my original xbox for a ton of magic cards a few years ago. I gave away my PS2(fat) to make room for a PSlim. The value of certain things to me are different than that of others, and I don't expect them to do the same.
It's not that some people here can't afford $400 for a console; it's that some people don't think it's worth that. Get over it.
Forgotten Ancient
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RavenFox said:
Well, the "us" is obviously the people who don't own a PS3. There's a lot of us, so I can understand your confusion.
Forgotten Ancient said:
Good post. I can agree with this.
I see but if you dont want it no one can force you to get it. Do you think the 360 is worth $399 or $299? I mean with it failing all over the place and all. You give some you get some. No confusion, what you posted could be easily picked apart.Forgotten Ancient said:
Valkyr Junkie
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chespace said:
It'd be more accurate to look at it as a 20-33% price drop within the first year, which isn't too unprecedented.
BenjaminBirdie said:
I was mostly referring to almost weekly comments by the 1up editors on 1upyours and the recent Kotaku article. The later was engraved in my mind mostly due to the history of Kotaku and it's primarily negative catalog of PS3 articles.
http://n4g.com/News-72010.aspx
Souldriver
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HOLY SHIT at this thread. :lol
It's like one big troll infested fanboy party. :lol
It's like one big troll infested fanboy party. :lol
DeaconKnowledge
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frankthurk said:
Of course it is. But it's not going to open some magical floodgates that shoot the PS3 into the stratosphere sales wise. Price drops are one part of a key plan that includes a healthy gaming library. No company can outright drop the price of their console, dust off their hands and call it a day, which is what a lot of people in this thread are insinuating.
fortified_concept
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Forgotten Ancient said:
The BC argument. It's astonishing how the same people who didn't care about BC
due to X360's shitty BC
JoshuaJSlone
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I wish GCN had dropped to $0 in the first year.chespace said:
fortified_concept
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Forgotten Ancient said:
The BC argument. It's astonishing how the same people who didn't care about BC
due to X360's shitty BC
JoshuaJSlone
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Because more people have and plan to buy in the future more PS2 games than Xbox games?fortified_concept said:
BenjaminBirdie
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belvedere said:
That's kind of a weird piece. It says PS3 has the most and includes Rock Band but demerits 360 for only having two exclusives.
JoshuaJSlone said:
Holy shit beaten.
Seriously that seemed like a no-brainer, f_c.
squatingyeti
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belvedere said:
Hold the phone.....
Forgotten Ancient
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fortified_concept said:
Well, I didn't like the Xbox. I mean, I did trade it for some magic cards. I have no games for the original system and don't care about going back to them.
For the PS2 and PSone, it's quite a different story. I have well over 100 games across the two platforms. Those were my main systems for the past 10 years and it was one of the key bullet points for me when initially wanting a PS3 - take that away and you're taking away a reason for me to transition into the next generation.
squatingyeti
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fortified_concept said:
That argument can also be turned around to all the PS3 people that talked up the fact the PS3 gives BC while the 360 couldn't get all the games working. So, all the sudden it's NOT important to them now.
Souldriver
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I don't know if we're still on the "10 year plan" debate at this point, but I'd like to add...
A 10 year console life is only possible for the top selling console of a generation. It has such a big userbase, that even after the next-gen has started, developers still support it cause there's still a lot of money to grab. That's why it was possible with the NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2. The PS3 however is on life support 10 months after it's initial release. No way in hell this console will have a 10 year life if things don't change drastically.
A 10 year console life is only possible for the top selling console of a generation. It has such a big userbase, that even after the next-gen has started, developers still support it cause there's still a lot of money to grab. That's why it was possible with the NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2. The PS3 however is on life support 10 months after it's initial release. No way in hell this console will have a 10 year life if things don't change drastically.
fortified_concept
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JoshuaJSlone said:
You bought a 400$ next gen console and you plan on returning to last-gen gaming? Really? And btw the argument still doesn't make sense. Just because PS2 had better library it justifies X360's shitty BC? Wow, that is convenient.
frankthurk
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DeaconKnowledge said:
Is Sony dusting off their hands and calling it a day? I'd ask you to quote someone saying that... but I'm sure you could find a person or two in this morass. But I don't see how it really fit as a response to what you were quoting I guess. Saying it's not DOOMED is not the same as saying it's going to go into the stratosphere sales wise...
But then again I guess I should realize I'm on GAF and for some there is no middle ground... it's either failed or the stratosphere.
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Mojovonio said:
That would be a thread in itself.
asclepio_gtr
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Oh the "usual suspects"... And the "Microsoft employees"... Trolling a PS3 related thread...
BenjaminBirdie
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fortified_concept said:
How is that so crazy? Playing Halo 3, I want to spin back through Halo 2. Are you saying DMC4 is going to be completely independent of 1-3? And that won't even want to just revist it for a few levels?
It happens.
Forgotten Ancient
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fortified_concept said:
Yes. Funny you would question that while having a FFVII avatar. Did all gaming previous to this generation suddenly become moot to you? That's kinda depressing.
And I don't think anyone is trying to justify the 360's shitty BC. It's shitty, it sucks, and it's not a reason to buy the system. Most ppl purchased the console with that already in mind. But the shitty BC on the 360 doesn't justify the acceptance of no BC on a PS3.
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