ElectricBlanketFire
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Oni Jazar said:
Nobody would expect a De Niro like performance from Edward Norton.
It'd be more like reviewing Pizza Hut and saying, "It's not as good as what the chefs on Top Chef can do, but it's good."
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CNN: "3DS Doesn't Look as Good as a PS3"
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Nobody would expect a De Niro like performance from Edward Norton.
It'd be more like reviewing Pizza Hut and saying, "It's not as good as what the chefs on Top Chef can do, but it's good."
ElectricBlanketFire
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It's just not a fair comparison to include even as an off-handed comment.Oni Jazar said:
It would lead an uninformed consumer to be disappointed when the level of expectation shouldn't be that high graphics-wise.
szaromir said:That's extremely ignorant. What did you expect him to say? To list an entire group of games from early 00s? What would be the point? Or do you actually expect him to list some obscure Japanese title that you happen to like more than Halo?
There was no expectation at all, until he pulled the hardcore gamer card.
This is 100% about what he said, not what GAF thinks he said.
And to set the record straight, I made a postgiving him a pass on mentioning Halo as a game he grew up with. It is in my view perfectly acceptable to say that and I stick by it.
But if you pull in the other things he said "hardcore", complaining about carts etc. then using Halo seems out of place.
Well, it's ignorant sure, and definitely a backhanded compliment, but the casual user really does think in those terms. Basically he's just saying that it is in fact strong enough to actually play the types of games that the newer gamers care about.
IE graphically intensive shooters and sandbox games.
Now I think it's sad that most gamers experiences nowadays are limited to these genres, but acknowledgment by the masses of this capability will be the thing that REALLY lets the 3DS dominate. They already have the casual in the (blue ocean sense) gamer locked up between price, Nintendo's understanding of that market and previous DS experience, they will be successful with the hobbyist gamer, as the first party Nintendo software as well as the big Japanese developers games will be must have purchases with this group. The last market to really penetrate are the "other" casual gamers, the ones who really only buy a few titles per year, similar to the blue oceaners, but are much more enthusiastic about the titles that they do buy, and tend to use the software more frequently. These are many of the Halo/COD/GTA crowd that are such an important factor in the US.
These users would have avoided the DS, not because they didn't think that touchscreen was compelling, or because they dislike nintendo, but because the hardware simply wasn't able to deliver a faithful enough adaption of the game types that they enjoy the most.
It's possible that the salience of the 3-D technology conflated with the hardware capabilities and apparent improved software approach will allow the DS to reach heights in america that the DS was never able to achieve.
The PSP had potential to do this last gen, but suffered from a variety of well known problems, and didn't have anything like 3D that will (warranted or not) capture the attention of impulse purchasers. Why buy GTA, COD or Madden on the PSP if it's the same thing but worse as the console version? 3D more than anything else offers the 3DS differentiation from anything else on the market. It's a way more easy sell to your average gtacod enthusiast to give them the chance to play their favorite games in CD than it is to just sell them on playing an inferior port.
The 3DS is going to sell like nutbusters, and if they secure the types of games that american gamers tend to buy in droves it could spell death for the NGP before they even have a chance to launch.
God forbid the 3DS becomes the monster hunter lead platform in japan, because on the software side that is really all that it has going for it from a sales perspective.
IE graphically intensive shooters and sandbox games.
Now I think it's sad that most gamers experiences nowadays are limited to these genres, but acknowledgment by the masses of this capability will be the thing that REALLY lets the 3DS dominate. They already have the casual in the (blue ocean sense) gamer locked up between price, Nintendo's understanding of that market and previous DS experience, they will be successful with the hobbyist gamer, as the first party Nintendo software as well as the big Japanese developers games will be must have purchases with this group. The last market to really penetrate are the "other" casual gamers, the ones who really only buy a few titles per year, similar to the blue oceaners, but are much more enthusiastic about the titles that they do buy, and tend to use the software more frequently. These are many of the Halo/COD/GTA crowd that are such an important factor in the US.
These users would have avoided the DS, not because they didn't think that touchscreen was compelling, or because they dislike nintendo, but because the hardware simply wasn't able to deliver a faithful enough adaption of the game types that they enjoy the most.
It's possible that the salience of the 3-D technology conflated with the hardware capabilities and apparent improved software approach will allow the DS to reach heights in america that the DS was never able to achieve.
The PSP had potential to do this last gen, but suffered from a variety of well known problems, and didn't have anything like 3D that will (warranted or not) capture the attention of impulse purchasers. Why buy GTA, COD or Madden on the PSP if it's the same thing but worse as the console version? 3D more than anything else offers the 3DS differentiation from anything else on the market. It's a way more easy sell to your average gtacod enthusiast to give them the chance to play their favorite games in CD than it is to just sell them on playing an inferior port.
The 3DS is going to sell like nutbusters, and if they secure the types of games that american gamers tend to buy in droves it could spell death for the NGP before they even have a chance to launch.
God forbid the 3DS becomes the monster hunter lead platform in japan, because on the software side that is really all that it has going for it from a sales perspective.
Lonely1 said:
the point is it does't matter if the official price is $230 I was pointing out that you didn't have to pay 3 times more than the 3DS to play the IOS games so you talking about how it's only $200 because of retail discounts don't change anything it's just your way of trying to change the point of the argument.
now tell me how you talking about getting the 3DS with $25 in store credit when you pre-order change anything?
LOL @ you saying "the end" like you got some kind of point across, no you was making a pointless point & then went on to make another pointless point!
So according to this thread a hardcore gamer is a 30 something? Quite sad then you think about it, particulary when you're proud of that. Anyway funny CNN guy aside, how does the 3D compare to the PS3 games? Nintendo can poke fun out of the PS3 games needing glasses but if you can't get 3D that good on a tiny screen, well then watch whom you laugh at. I need to give this handheld a go though and will do so tomorrow, mate picked it up today and said she was impessed with it.
chickdigger802
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give 30 years. when all these blokes die, wonder what will happen to games.
I know I'm 6 pages late, but...
Damn, growing up with Halo and considering yourself a hardcore gamer working for CNN sounds just wrong.
That is, unless they got some High School kid working there
Also, can't wait for the time when games like Too Human (lol) are considered 'classics' like some people do when they see a NES game that was crappy even on it's time
Damn, growing up with Halo and considering yourself a hardcore gamer working for CNN sounds just wrong.
That is, unless they got some High School kid working there
Also, can't wait for the time when games like Too Human (lol) are considered 'classics' like some people do when they see a NES game that was crappy even on it's time
Mr. Spinnington
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sums things up perfectlyScrow said:
How about why does he constantly refer to gameboy and not the ds/dsi. He acts like the last system they had was gameboy. In general it was like they grabbed some intern and said you ever play games and he says I played some halo in college, then they were like congratulation you are doing 3ds review.
The Praiseworthy
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I want to meet this guy..... really...... so many things I want to say to his face.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but am I giving CNN too much credit in saying that they might be referencing this quote from this article:
It was pretty widely reported on. :/
No45 said:
yep I mentioned it in a earlier post
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Nintendo 3DS: Graphics on par with PS3, Xbox 360?
Rumor: 3DS "Close To" 360, PS3 Graphics
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Houston3000
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I laughed way too hard at the "grew up on Halo" part, haha.
I don't even know if it's possible for someone that young to be a writer for CNN
I don't even know if it's possible for someone that young to be a writer for CNN
flyinpiranha
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EasyTGT said:
Haha! That is awesome.
test_account
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Seems to me that he compares the graphics on the 3DS to PS3 just to do a comparison. For us that are familiar with handheld devices like this it might sound a bit wierd, but i guess he just mentioned as a general statement so that people in general have some idea how the graphics are. Better than the previous handhelds, but not better than PS3.
test_account said:
Wii is by far the most popular console and its graphics are very similar to 3DS, plus it is also made by Nintendo so that would have been a way better comparison. Why choose the least popular console???
His entire video reeks of someone not doing their research.
Ironballs said:
.............................Maximum Facepalm.
Tim the Wiz
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Man, times have changed. I remember ten years back. Casual was the Madden gamer, was the average console FPS gamer, the gamer who'd never touch stuff like Super Metroid or Deus Ex or Ico, y'know? Now, any gamer who partakes in a game that isn't a "non-game" doesn't, won't ever, get described as casual. Normative perceptions are a weird thing.