Then say it instead of small hints that mean nothing you drop in a bunch of threads.
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COD Ghosts Xbox One offline (2 weeks before launch) not possible without Live?
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Then say it instead of small hints that mean nothing you drop in a bunch of threads.
oh. my. god.
No, I refuse. I will sit here patiently and wait. Goddamnit I will wait.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
If it's true then that would be my guess. Seems like a foolish thing for Activision to do. After the backlash, this would alienate a lot of potential customers.
And we already knew it was possible, of course -- see some Capcom games like Final Fight.
The question has always been whether or not publishers would actually be willing to do it, and how easy the platforms made it for them. At this point, it's up to us to not support software that chooses to adopt online checks, IMO.
Wasn't Xbox one a online only console? Activision probably didn't bother to change anything and just left it as it was originally planned to ship. PS4 was never online only.
I don't think I want to imagine this...
Let the shitstorm commence, of course.
Garrett 2U
Member
Oh man, CBOAT. Can't wait to see how this story continues
Have something to share or is this just FUD?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Maybe in order for a developer to use it they have to use what's already built into the system but is now inactive until turned on rather than turned on all the time. So by activating it, Activision also activated everything that comes with it too.
Zomba13
Member
I like how all it takes is CBOAT to post one purposefully misspelt word for people to go crazy.
This seems really weird. It's either the OS isn't complete (meaning the patch he downloaded wasn't the day 1 patch but a different patch) so the games still need a 24hr check in, the game itself needs to be online (meaning that even though MS 180'd the stupid shit they are letting publishers do it themselves) or the console ban now makes your box a paperweight as opposed to just completely barring you from online but letting you do the usual offline stuff (like play your offline games offline).
Each one is worrying in it's own special way.
This seems really weird. It's either the OS isn't complete (meaning the patch he downloaded wasn't the day 1 patch but a different patch) so the games still need a 24hr check in, the game itself needs to be online (meaning that even though MS 180'd the stupid shit they are letting publishers do it themselves) or the console ban now makes your box a paperweight as opposed to just completely barring you from online but letting you do the usual offline stuff (like play your offline games offline).
Each one is worrying in it's own special way.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Nothing more to add right now.
My personal take is what it is. MSFT is just not as prepared for this as they should be. People will learn.
Hopefully when I get one this isn't an issue but who knows.
Nothing that I would share with you.
My guess is this: Remember that thing about party chat being messed up and microsoft putting party chat stuff off to each individual game? It might just be the same for the DRM, that it was implemented in each game. Of course it's just speculation.
Yup, good example too. Capcom dabbled with this bullshit and IIRC it was only on the PS3 version of Bionic Commando Rearmed 2. When PSN went down the game was unplayable.
The solution? Don't buy that shit.
Why would Sony pressure Activision and not Microsoft?
Whelp, not sleeping now! Getting the popcorn...
deputyspade
Member
UnluckyKate
Member
Multiplayer map and extinction mod. They've been helping CoD for years now.
God damn. WHAT THE FUCK is going on at MS right now?
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
I'm not seeing the revelation. I'd already assumed there would be quite a few games next gen that have zero offline functionality, system wide DRM or not.
edit - I'm referring to CBOAT's comment here.
edit - I'm referring to CBOAT's comment here.
Nightengale
Member
Damn, CBOAT, you just waked up Phil Spencer who's now demanding that all game-by-game stuff be patched day-one.
Also, confirmed for John Lennon.
Also, confirmed for John Lennon.
Same. I'll stick with scenario one (the patch he downloaded just wasn't ready) for now, to give Microsoft and Activision the benefit of the doubt. Surely both are VERY aware of what pulling this would do to their credibility on a LAUNCH game.
20 would be lowballing it...
Killing_Joke
Member
Wow, DRM lives...
But why? Cloud bullshit? No trade ins? (locked to your account).
So many questions.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Because one enabled them to and the other did not?
Louis Cyphre
Banned
I think I will just wait like everyone else before I come to any conclusions.
Whoa. Seems a bit far fetched. Having seen all the drama so far, I wouldn't completely discount it though.
why would you? that type of possibility exists for ALL ONLINE CAPABLE PLATFORMS
games are out there that require online to function
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
Wasn't the option for developers to make their games online only always an option for both Xbox One and PS4, though?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The same situation that's been talked about for a while. It's not some secret but a ton of the rumors do add up. Most of this stuff people know but cboat has said almost all of it in his cryptic posts.
cboat has been saying this all. I'm not adding any more to it.
Chobel
Member
You seem to have more to say, just say it, don't let us hanging.
Yeah, I mean I know Microsoft has been one cock up after another, but this just seems... for a game this major? The perception issue alone would be catastrophic.
I trust crazy buttocks, but him just posting "imagine".... I dunno I'm going to say it's too vague to draw any conclusions from because I cannot believe Microsoft or any company would be that dumb.
I don't want to get into another shit storm here, but it is quite fucked up that they can stop you from even playing single player games offline. They can just nuke your console and give you a $500 brick. I was under the impression that this was not going to be an issue anymore.
And what will happen if this only or mostly happens on Xbox?
Yes. There is no profound revelation here.
And examples of this stuff are present on 360 and PS3 already.
...Is this it, Is this the storm?
Penello has usually been around here on Sunday nights for the past few months, I'm hoping he'll come in and clarify quickly on what's going on.
Yup.
And for those saying this is not a revelation -- it is (if, with a large if, Activision actually did this) in the following sense:
- It's the first example of a huge game doing it
- It's right at launch
- It would follow precisely the 24 hour policy, meaning that the DRM infrastructure was kept in the platform to facilitate implementation of software-specific DRM.
Yup.
And for those saying this is not a revelation -- it is (if, with a large if, Activision actually did this) in the following sense:
- It's the first example of a huge game doing it
- It's right at launch
- It would follow precisely the 24 hour policy, meaning that the DRM infrastructure was kept in the platform to facilitate implementation of software-specific DRM.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Based on everything else wrong with Ghosts. Who knows.
Also why would this thread go 20 pages off the realization that publishers can do whatever they want in regards to online/offline access.
If CBOAT ever spills publicly what s/he shared via PM regarding a myriad of other technical issues going on right now...
I'm going right back in that shelter and welding it shut.-----bishoptl
connected???
Well, it does beg the question why it needs online for Xbox One and not PS4.
He doesn't post just to post though, there's always something to take from his rare appearances.
Tallshortman
Member
It's entirely possible Sony pressures or mandates publishers to allow offline play if it has an offline mode like SP campaign. Why Activision requires it on the xbone idk, MS better get ahead of this because it is potentially terrible news.