Netrunner2k2
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Whipped Spartan said:
Is this sarcasm?
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COD4 dev blown away by PC piracy
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Is this sarcasm?
ZeroTolerance
Junior Member
andrewfee said:
This.
But for how long on the PS3 though ? people are working on that shit like there is no tomorrow you know. By later this year or early next year, we will hear about its development.
traveler said:
You didn't really read my post, I said the pc's ability to read the copy protection on a disc successfully. Demo's don't demo that. Maybe they should, some sort of test for your drive packed in with a demo would perhaps be a nice idea. Of course negative results would negatively effect sales too, but it'd be honest.
Stoney Mason
Banned
sinnergy said:
We need an IQ check before people should be allowed to post on this board...
And just like consoles there are always companies who have created a monopoly of profit through their medium of choice. Blizzard and Valve are knocking on your door, the same way Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, UbiSoft, Square Enix and EA are. Your logic is stretching it a bit too far.Whipped Spartan said:
bumpkin
Member
This man speaks the sad, ironic truth. The main reason I never got into PC games is that I don't have the money (or inclination) to be constantly trying to keep up with the hardware. Console games might be lagging behind the PC in some respects, but at least I know that if something comes out for x console, it will play properly on it.mr_bishiuk said:
Make piracy harder and you'll see it drop.
I'm of the opinion that there ought to be more effort put in to fouling up the torrent distributions and what have you. Will it destroy piracy? No. However, the goal shouldn't be to completely eradicate it, but rather push it away from critical mass so that it's kept strictly to a niche activity.
I'm of the opinion that there ought to be more effort put in to fouling up the torrent distributions and what have you. Will it destroy piracy? No. However, the goal shouldn't be to completely eradicate it, but rather push it away from critical mass so that it's kept strictly to a niche activity.
Prime crotch
Banned
Why is it that only piracy threads are the ones about PC gaming where most gaffers post?
ZeroTolerance said:
And give up PC sales entirely? doesn't make a lot of sense imo.
One reason I barely buy PC games anymore is because you're not getting anything for your money. Resale value is nil. If you lose the serial key, the disc is worthless. Now, they are even going to so far as to limit the number of installs you can perform via product activation.
I don't condone piracy, but frankly when the pirated version is superior to the crippled retail, there's not a lot of incentive to pay.
ElectricBlue187
Member
TheBranca18 said:You're right.
Someone creates video game.
Someone steals video game.
The creator whines about the person who steals their intellectual property while doing nothing to stop it.
It's the creator's fault.
Super logic
thank you.
bee
Member
whine....its their own fault for making it easily playable online on a pirated copy on a large scale, how many other big new pc games out there are fully playable online without the use of some vpn program, fucking none thats how many.
it was the same with cod1 and cod2, they even have an option on the main menu to change your cd key instead of having to reinstall it or whatever, you cant cry about your game being played online with pirated copies if its your own dam fault.
it was the same with cod1 and cod2, they even have an option on the main menu to change your cd key instead of having to reinstall it or whatever, you cant cry about your game being played online with pirated copies if its your own dam fault.
ZeroTolerance
Junior Member
Prime crotch said:
Because piracy is a big problem and PC makes it all possible ?
Almost everygame that comes out for the PC is pirated. Even WoW with its enormous subscribers, you'd be surprised to see how many people play on pirated servers.
I feel the best way to avoid piracy with PC gaming is probably to add some sort of system like in BF2. Since multi player is so important when it comes to PC games preventing somebody from playing online would do much to make people pay. Of course, it's never perfect, and there are always ways to crack the system. But unless a game is really popular, there probably won't be that many cracked server either.
Programmers and developers are fighting a losing war against software piracy on the PC. The "scene" as they call it is huge. Any form of copy protection is defeated within days/weeks, and the stronger ones are borderline malware (see Starforce).
What the PC industry needs to do is to come up with an alternative way of delivering content.
What the PC industry needs to do is to come up with an alternative way of delivering content.
I don't think the guys who pirate these games should be able to play them either, but I don't think it's a direct correlation to sales as the developer or even many in this thread suggest. At a company I used to work for, we had a pirated copy of Q3A in the sense we had 1 copy being used by 6 people. Even if we couldn't have hacked it, we never would have bought 6 copies. Matter of fact, unless I checked to see if the game was in fact pirateable in that sense, we wouldn't even have bought one.
I think that a large portion of the people who pirate games aren't going to buy them anyway. But that still doesn't mean it's not wrong and they shouldn't be able to enjoy the game without paying for it. Especially when I enjoy the game and gladly pay for it.
I think that a large portion of the people who pirate games aren't going to buy them anyway. But that still doesn't mean it's not wrong and they shouldn't be able to enjoy the game without paying for it. Especially when I enjoy the game and gladly pay for it.
Stoney Mason
Banned
speedpop said:
There are many benefits to the PC development scene but let's not pretend piracy on the console scene is at the same level of the PC scene unless you throw in emulation.
Prime crotch
Banned
But I don't see you a bit worried with threads about actual PC gaming, you know, games. Now here comes a developer giving his two cents about piracy and lo and behold here comes the "PC=piracy" squad.ZeroTolerance said:
Teknopathetic
Member
"So if they add DRM they're dicks treating their customers like thieves, and if the don't they're suckers who should have known better."
That's not DRM, brainiac.
That's not DRM, brainiac.
SRG01 said:
Nah, I think they need to accept that copyright infringement is a reality for all creative businesses. What they need to do is stop punishing the honest customers with crippled products, and make the physical copy more desirable.
Kudos to Bethesda, Oblivion was a shining example of how to do a PC release right. And if I remember correctly, the PC version was a big seller.
PC publishers need to STOP making us feel like all we're buying is a serial key.
theBishop said:
True, Oblivion sold quite well on the PC. But is that the norm or the exception?
It's kind of depressing when I, being raised on PC gaming, see PC games get smaller and smaller shelf space compared to consoles.
Hell, the only few games in recent memory that have sold quite a bit would be subscription-based games a la MMOs, or content-driven games such as The Sims.
test_account
XP-39C²
I thought you needed to buy the game to be able to play online, or atleast have a valid CD-key (well.. DVD-key hehe ).
).SRG01 said:
The exception is a PC release that doesn't require a CD-key, doesn't require activation, doesn't install malware, and does include a nice fold out map and hefty game guide.
Is this the reason the game did well? Probably not. But it clearly didn't prevent the game from doing well, and Oblivion PC was a better product because of it.
HarryHengst
Member
Indeed. Make it worth buying the game at full price, instead of pirating it or waiting three months before you can buy it for like 10 in a bargain bin. Bring for example the big boxes we had in the 90's with maps and full-colour manuals and concept art and other goodies back.theBishop said:
I'm not going to say what game it was but I work with a guy who's last title was PC only.
There were at any given three times as many people playing the game online as copies sold. This wasn't a high profile title either, I imagine those numbers are even worse.
For anyone in this thread defending pirates or blaming the developers, seriously, from the bottom of my cold dark heart.
Fuck you.
There were at any given three times as many people playing the game online as copies sold. This wasn't a high profile title either, I imagine those numbers are even worse.
For anyone in this thread defending pirates or blaming the developers, seriously, from the bottom of my cold dark heart.
Fuck you.
ZeroTolerance
Junior Member
Prime crotch said:
So I dont comment in other PC games thread and I come out and comment in my first PC piracy related thread and voice out the inevitable truth and am called out ?
Only.At. Gaf.
ZeroTolerance
Junior Member
Jacobi said:
Probably not. Unless IW are not working on the next COD title.
test_account
XP-39C²
SRG01 said:
Not if an auth-server is used that checks all CD keys. You can set up so-called cracked servers to avoid this, but you cannot play on every server then. I'm very suprised if CoD4 doesnt use and auth-server to check the keys.
ZeroTolerance
Junior Member
ding ding ding....speedpop said:
. Is crazy man.Similar threads
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