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Now that we got all the meaningless games out of the way (well 98% of them), we can focus on the game that actually matters.

RFN (Reggie ****in Nelson) is going to lay Ginn the **** out for himself and for his mama.
 
I'm pulling for Florida, but quite honestly the Auburn 2004 team was shafted out of the 2005 BCS game & was far better than Florida is this year.

Either way go Gators!!! I have faith.

BTW, I'm a long time fan of LSU and live here in Baton Rouge and honestly tell you nobody I know of was happy when it was announced we were to play ND, we wanted to play a good team.
But it's always nice that we get to beat up on teams that are so widely hated like Miami Hurricane last year & ND this year. hehehe
 
West Fvckin' Virginia :lol

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I always carry my camera to Georgia Tech football games. We were fortunate and had seats on the lower level, two seats away from the Georgia Tech Band section. At the end of the second quarter, the band was in position on the field, leaving their section empty. I walked to the bottom of the band section to get some panorama shots of the stadium and then returned to my seat. I noticed a West Virginia fan standing in the middle of the Georgia Tech Band seating area, with his pants around his knees.

As this is unusual, I pointed the walking stereotype to my fiance', a Virginia Tech alumni. She had been preparing me for the encounters with West Virginia fans and this individual only supported her prior observations.

Then things got ugly.

The WVU fan then dropped his drawers and defecated on one of the Georgia Tech band section seats.

I turned the camera on and snapped the below series of pictures...

http://picasaweb.google.com/THWUGA/WVUFanInTheGTBandSection
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Kines is best friends with Mickey Andrews and was our LB Coach in the past so his name is definitely coming up. It's between him and Chest, no doubt.

The Jimbo thing was a done deal earlier tonight, but Alabama has reportedly upped their offer to anywhere from $750k to $1 million.
 
Fox is going to put all the BCS games they have the rights to on iTunes. You'd better believe I'm getting Boise State-Oklahoma and Flordia-Ohio State (which will be awesome) ASAP.
 
Meier said:
The Jimbo thing was a done deal earlier tonight, but Alabama has reportedly upped their offer to anywhere from $750k to $1 million.
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I don't understand the love affair with Jimbo. IMO, he is a decent coordinator and a better recruiter, but there ARE other OC's out there worth looking at.

Alabama should be looking at the QB coach for the GB Packers.
 
Limedust said:
I don't understand the love affair with Jimbo. IMO, he is a decent coordinator and a better recruiter, but there ARE other OC's out there worth looking at.

Alabama should be looking at the QB coach for the GB Packers.
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Well for FSU, a monkey named Bubbles would be better than Jeff Bowden, so you can see their infatuation with someone halfway decent like Jimbo.
 
No kidding. If Fisher falls through, we'll probably go after Kevin Rogers or Larry Fedora (another early candidate). Some folks have wanted Chris Hatcher (Valdosta State HC) all along due to his vaunted Air Raid Offense, but I have a feeling that the Administration wants a proven D1 or NFL coach rather than one from D2.
 
Well, the one thing I figure is, Saban's offenses in the past, plus the current type of players at Alabama, are more geared to standard/Pro style offenses. Saban's never been about the "fancier" types of offenses, such as the Spread, or Run and Gun, or anything else. That might be why he wants Jimbo. He knows him, and is more of a standard run/pass balance type guy.

Not to say I wouldn't mind seeing some interesting offenses at Alabama. But I just want them to be good enough to outscore the opponents!
 
Hoo boy, LSU is having a press conference to announce Jimbo Fisher's resignation. Shock of the century! Recent developments are saying FSU, but this thing has been a huge rollercoaster, so who knows at this point. Apparently will be announced either way later today.
 
Really good article on the reason we won't have a playoff soon, andThe Most Powerful Man in College Football:

Furthermore, Delany said, BCS advocates have failed to use their best argument: that the current postseason system maintains the value of the regular season. Forget the Big Ten's longstanding relationship with the Rose Bowl, or the tradition of the bowl system, or the other arguments to counter critics who contend power and money alone have driven the effort to preserve the BCS.

"There's no doubt in my mind that there's far more money out there than what we have," Delany said. "But there's also no doubt in my mind that there would be a huge sucking sound coming out of the regular season towards the postseason because I know, as a fact, that there is a consumer dollar, there is a marketing dollar, there is an advertising dollar and it's not an unlimited dollar.

"It's a migratory dollar. And the dollar tends to follow those areas of those elements of a competitive season that are most attractive. And right now what I would say is that we're at some sort of equilibrium of a bowl system and a championship game on the one hand. There's some gravitas from an economic perspective, from a public interest perspective in the regular season. I see there being a balance."
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That's a very good point, IMO. And while he might seem like an Evil Bastard, at least he understands and acknowledges both sides of the playoff argument, something most playoff proponents are unwilling to do.

Also, a columnist willing to take the very unpopular position that the OU/BSU game was a good argument AGAINST a playoff:

The game, in other words, was as good as it gets. Which is why I don't get the people who say it was not enough. The Fox broadcasters started in, saying Boise State's performance demonstrated the need for a college playoff. Columnists have since weighed in with similar opinions.

If anything, I would argue, this game proved the opposite. The system shouldn't be touched, because it creates climaxes like this with no championship on the line. It shows that bowl games work perfectly as an end to themselves.

In pro football it makes sense that we have only one winner, that every team except one ends its season with a disappointing final result. But every place need not resemble Tolkien's Middle Earth, with one ring to rule them all, and one ring to bind them.

Boise State's Fiesta Bowl rings will be savored as much as any jewelry that gets minted after the BCS title game because of the power of the memory to which it is attached. It wouldn't have been the same if this were simply a step in a playoff.
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ThatCrazyGuy said:
Anybody watching this high school all star game on NBC? Notre Dame getting alot of new high ranked kids :)
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So what'll be their excuse when they lose a bowl game next year?

This year it's suddenly that they don't have anyhwere near the talent of LSU.
 
Tamanon said:
So what'll be their excuse when they lose a bowl game next year?

This year it's suddenly that they don't have anyhwere near the talent of LSU.
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This is America, there will be plenty of excuses to be found and made up. Don't worry about it :D
 
This game is such a farce. It's basically run by Tom Lemming, who loves Notre Dame and routinely pressures kids to go there. He also moves rankings around to accommodate the kids that Notre Dame gets commitments from. I think it has been referenced before, but Lorenzo Booker of FSU had a tell all story about how Lemming was pressuring him to go to ND and was really ticked off when he didn't.
 
Brendonia said:
This game is such a farce. It's basically run by Tom Lemming, who loves Notre Dame and routinely pressures kids to go there. He also moves rankings around to accommodate the kids that Notre Dame gets commitments from. I think it has been referenced before, but Lorenzo Booker of FSU had a tell all story about how Lemming was pressuring him to go to ND and was really ticked off when he didn't.
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Did you mean Myron Rolle?
 
ThatCrazyGuy said:
Anybody watching this high school all star game on NBC? Notre Dame getting alot of new high ranked kids :)
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It's run by Tom Lemming and aired on NBC. Brendonia knows the deal. I'm stating the obvious when I say it's a 3-hour ND recruiting-commercial-homerfest.

Alot of those kids are overrated on the sole basis of being a ND recruit. You only have to watch 5 minutes of the game to realize that. It's pretty shameless to be honest.

Oh well, looking forward to those 3 Illini! Hopefully Robert Hughes will be joining them soon. :D
 
Outdoor Miner said:
It's run by Tom Lemming and aired on NBC. Brendonia knows the deal. I'm stating the obvious when I say it's a 3-hour ND recruiting-commercial-homerfest.

Alot of those kids are overrated on the sole basis of being a ND recruit. You only have to watch 5 minutes of the game to realize that. It's pretty shameless to be honest.

Oh well, looking forward to those 3 Illini! Hopefully Robert Hughes will be joining them soon. :D
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True. I've never watched this game before. On the post game, it was a ND commercial. O well. It was semi-entertaining at least.
 
Recruiting by and large is a guessing game based on catering to favorites.

Don't pay attention to the stars, pay attention to the offers. After all, Boise State hasn't had a recruiting class ranked in the Top 60 yet they handed it to Oklahoma, a team that always ranked in the top 10.

I guess I'll use an example close to home to hammer my point in. For example on Rivals, I know Rutgers has a 2 star guy with offers from Tennessee, West Virginia, and Iowa, among other teams. I don't know what planet you live on but a kid with offers from Tennessee and West Virginia, definitely merits more than 2 out of 5 stars. Meanwhile there's a kid who is going to Maryland with comparable offers who somehow gets 4 out of 5 stars. Yet, most people who have seen both players say the 2 star guy is better.
 
Sirpopopop said:
Recruiting by and large is a guessing game based on catering to favorites.

Don't pay attention to the stars, pay attention to the offers. After all, Boise State hasn't had a recruiting class ranked in the Top 60 yet they handed it to Oklahoma, a team that always ranked in the top 10.

I guess I'll use an example close to home to hammer my point in. For example on Rivals, I know Rutgers has a 2 star guy with offers from Tennessee, West Virginia, and Iowa, among other teams. I don't know what planet you live on but a kid with offers from Tennessee and West Virginia, definitely merits more than 2 out of 5 stars. Meanwhile there's a kid who is going to Maryland with comparable offers who somehow gets 4 out of 5 stars. Yet, most people who have seen both players say the 2 star guy is better.
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Exactly Sirpopopop, that's how it is. Sometimes these big star guys are great but a lot of times nobody knows since they play against such disparate competition. Paul Posluzny was a 3-star linebacker on Rivals and a low 4-star on Scout. I'd say he turned out a lot better than expected. Steve Slaton was a 3-star due to his size, think he's doing OK too.

You also have the biases of guys like Lemming and also regional biases too. If someone is from Texas, California, or Florida they are usually higher ranked than somebody from say Wisconsin or New York even. It's weird.
 
Yeah, recruiting numbers are pretty voodoo sometimes. Notre Dame's incoming false idol, Jimmy Clausen, played in one of the weakest leagues in the Southern Section of California high school football. Aaron Corp will be better in college and I'm guessing a couple of the other guys in between them on rivals from states far, far away from my own will be too.

Speaking of Aaron Corp, I think I was destined to hate this guy more than Matt Leinart. Sure, Mater Dei was my high school's chief rival but at least it was Catholic. Mr. Corp played for those pansy Protestants at Orange Lutheran! C-Force, you better not suck shit like I have the sinking feeling you will.
 
Karakand said:
Yeah, recruiting numbers are pretty voodoo sometimes. Notre Dame's incoming false idol, Jimmy Clausen, played in one of the weakest leagues in the Southern Section of California high school football. Aaron Corp will be better in college and I'm guessing a couple of the other guys in between them on rivals from states far, far away from my own will be too.

Speaking of Aaron Corp, I think I was destined to hate this guy more than Matt Leinart. Sure, Mater Dei was my high school's chief rival but at least it was Catholic. Mr. Corp played for those pansy Protestants at Orange Lutheran! C-Force, you better not suck shit like I have the sinking feeling you will.
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not to mention the fact that Jimmy Clausen is like 28 years old.
 
Sirpopopop said:
Recruiting by and large is a guessing game based on catering to favorites.

Don't pay attention to the stars, pay attention to the offers. After all, Boise State hasn't had a recruiting class ranked in the Top 60 yet they handed it to Oklahoma, a team that always ranked in the top 10.
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when someone says "handed it to" that usually means they beat them down. i wouldn't say Boise St. "handed it" to us. ;)

your point in the post stands though
 
Recruiting is always wacky. You are trying to predict how 18 year olds will play in the future, based sometimes just on how they play against which is sometimes crappy comp. Who knows. Was Tom Brady a blue chip prospect in high school? Seriously, I would like to know. Where colleges stumbling over themselves to recruit Larry Johnson?
 
ThatCrazyGuy said:
Recruiting is always wacky. You are trying to predict how 18 year olds will play in the future, based sometimes just on how they play against which is sometimes crappy comp. Who knows. Was Tom Brady a blue chip prospect in high school? Seriously, I would like to know. Where colleges stumbling over themselves to recruit Larry Johnson?
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I don't think Brady was, but he wasn't drafted high either. Wasn't it like 6th round? LJ was pretty much guaranteed to be a Penn Stater, considering his Dad is the Defensive Line coach, so I doubt he really got a whole lot of attention from other schools too. I know you were just using those two as examples and see what you're saying, just thought I'd chime in.
 
Well, I had seen a quote from Shaun Alexander back after his last game at Alabama. Orange Bowl, versus Tom Brady's Michigan team, who won by a point I think. He said he had told Brady "No one knows how good you are." Then the whole "he gets drafted after the 5th round and wins the title of Lord" blah blah blah...
 
Yep. Word is Alabama has withdrawn their offer too.. now he's being tied potentially to the new coaching job at Georgia Tech HC job since Chan Gailey is interviewing with the Dolphins. Sounds like Jimbo burned too many bridges -- he told FSU as many as 2 or 3 times he'd accepted the job, he shook hands with Bobby and still backed out.

Apparently he didnt officially resign from LSU as previously indicated and may even stay there.
 
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