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Comic Con: Superman/Batman Movie Confirmed

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I suppose, if you think every DC movie should be grim, gritty, and humorless, with numerous scenes of characters Very Seriously Explaining What X Character Means.

Hmnmm yes? It's far bettr than "it's the tesseract, and it does stuff, all kind of stuff, magical stuff, that's it go and search it". The difference between DC and marvel is simple, marvel movies work because we look at a world that could have superheroes in it, DC movies work because it's our world that has super heroes in it, I far like more the dc approach.
 
At this point can you really call it "introducing" Batman? If there's one character that doesn't need another origin treatment, it's Batman. He could show up in Sleeping Beauty without an introduction.

It's "introducing" because there wasn't a Batman in the last movie, but there will be in this one. Introduce != origin story.

Man of Steel introduced a ton of characters we already knew of/were familiar with. We didn't get their origins. We didn't see Lois go to journalism school, we didn't see Perry White's adolescence, we didn't find out how Lombard went bald, or how Ma Kent met Pa Kent at a gas station in 1976 while shoulder tapping to get beer and smokes one late Kansas night.

We're not gonna get an origin story. We're going to get "the Goddamn Batman" from early in his career, fully formed, and really wary of both Clark, and probably really wary of Lex Luthor.

Also, I don't know why/how people started honestly arguing that Batman might have superpowers in this movie, but that's fucking ridiculous. Just because someone suggests it on a messageboard doesn't mean you HAVE to entertain the idea :)
 
Same. The biggest problem with MoS was the writing, far as I'm concerned. Really hope they'll bring in someone else to take a look at the script.

I guess it's possible Goyer could step up his game?

If I remember correctly - the reason he got in so good at WB originally was due to an unproduced screenplay called "Supermax" a large scale prison movie starring Green Arrow and a ton of Supervillains that was supposedly legitmately funny and thrilling at the same time.

I dunno. I've never read that. I'd like if Snyder got another writer in to polish Goyer so that the plotting gets smoothed over, and the dialog doesn't sound like the Exposition-O 4000 is on the fritz. But considering Goyer is also a producer, and not just the writer - I dunno.
 
I suppose, if you think every DC movie should be grim, gritty, and humorless, with numerous scenes of characters Very Seriously Explaining What X Character Means.

Gritty sure, but TDK trilogy was hardly grim or humorless. Unless you only count humor when it's coming at you in RDJ quips every 10 seconds.
 
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Also this is the same company that didn't want Superman to be called Superman, didnt want him to fly, and said for him to get rid of the costume because it looked "too faggy".

You do realize that was what Jon Peters wanted? I wouldn't say that's what WB the company wanted. You're not gonna get that shit today, he just throws money towards projects to help fund them now (like Man of Steel) his last full on producing credit was on Superman Returns and he didn't get his wish on that either. Nolan, Snyder and Goyer are not Jon Peters.
 
These studios aren't monoliths. Regimes change. The WB that was letting Jon Peters have input into the superhero movies has changed MULTIPLE times since 1998. Same with the Fox that screwed Bryan Singer over in 2000.

It's not like people who run movie studios are put there like Supreme Court justices, to rule from behind a desk until they die. People cycle in and out of those chairs based on their performance, like a lot of other jobs.

The Warner Brothers executives now are not Jon Peters then.
 
I guess it's possible Goyer could step up his game?

If I remember correctly - the reason he got in so good at WB originally was due to an unproduced screenplay called "Supermax" a large scale prison movie starring Green Arrow and a ton of Supervillains that was supposedly legitmately funny and thrilling at the same time.

I dunno. I've never read that. I'd like if Snyder got another writer in to polish Goyer so that the plotting gets smoothed over, and the dialog doesn't sound like the Exposition-O 4000 is on the fritz. But considering Goyer is also a producer, and not just the writer - I dunno.
Well Goyer did do the Blade Trilogy and that was legitimately good (well part Trinity), in fact it was pretty much the first Hollywood stab at making "realistic" comic book movies. He was also the one who came up with the original idea for getting Superman the Dark Knight treatment and Nolan ok-ed it.

I agree though, there should be someone polishing his dialogue but as far as storytelling goes and the ideas he's pretty solid.

Btw this looks like basically the same creative team that did MoS, since Nolan is the executive producer on it as well.
 
Btw this looks like basically the same creative team that did MoS, since Nolan is the executive producer on it as well.

Difference being this time around Nolan is just dealing with the films financing unlike being a producer on Man of Steel.

Executive producers in movies give no input or help shape the film.

edit- though who knows with Nolan lol and stuff can always change by the time this starts filming.
 
Difference being this time around Nolan is just dealing with the films financing unlike being a producer on Man of Steel.

Executive producers in movies give no input or help shape the film.
Oh right, thanks for that! So the story will be entirely Goyer/Snyder. Hm, that could be interesting. Though after writing 4 movies with Nolan I'd say Goyer should be able to keep faithful to that style. Still, they should get another writer in there for polish.
 
Oh right, thanks for that! So the story will be entirely Goyer/Snyder. Hm, that could be interesting. Though after writing 4 movies with Nolan I'd say Goyer should be able to keep faithful to that style. Still, they should get another writer in there for polish.

Don't say things like that, because it might end up being Lindelof.
 
I've been mulling this over in my head and despite my initial 'meh' feeling on this (and I'm a Snyder fan) I'm definitely coming round and seeing the potential in a Superman vs. Batman film launching a DCU film series.

While a potential 2015 release date (the words 'anticipated release' in the press release makes me think that a 2016 slot isn't out of the question) seems a little too soon and going up against Avengers 2 in the same calendar year feels a little foolish I am impressed by Warners drive to get this done.

WB's marketing department must be salivating at the prospect of a Superman vs. Batman film and the potential it throws up. How can you fuck up the marketing of two of comics (and cinemas?) biggest icons going head to head?

Armie Hammer could have been the perfect Batman but he's already doing Man From UNCLE with Cavill so that's out of the window already. And with Cavill being British I doubt that WB would cast another Brit as Batman. Which makes me wonder whether the studio might go for a 'name' such as Ryan Gosling or Bradley `Cooper (provided they'd be interested) as they'd be looking for a leading man in his thirties.

What is the current school of thought?

The Warner Brothers executives now are not Jon Peters then.

Even seeing his name written down brings me out in a fucking rash.

*shudder*
 
If they're truly thinking long term for the new iteration of Batman, they'd be wise to go for a relative unknown.

True. It's going to be fascinating to see which way they go with this. I have a feeling that there might be some outsider choice and some unknowns as well as one or two 'huh' candidates.

I wonder if we might see the likes of Alexander Skaarsgard on the list of potential Batmen.
 
As displeased with Zack Snyder as I am, we're stuck with him. I've never cared for his movies at all. Man of Steel has a lot of problems, but I make myself feel better by looking at it as just the beginning of Clark's story and I hope that it will get better. While I wish Warner would do the smart thing and get a comic book writer to do the screenplay and they would get a director other than Snyder, they're not going to. They've announced it, it's happening. All we can do is wait and see. Hopefully, we'll get something that isn't a total turd. This sounds like me conceding but what else can we do but just accept it?
Also, Jon Hamm for Batman would be pretty cool.
 
I guess it's possible Goyer could step up his game?

If I remember correctly - the reason he got in so good at WB originally was due to an unproduced screenplay called "Supermax" a large scale prison movie starring Green Arrow and a ton of Supervillains that was supposedly legitmately funny and thrilling at the same time.

I dunno. I've never read that. I'd like if Snyder got another writer in to polish Goyer so that the plotting gets smoothed over, and the dialog doesn't sound like the Exposition-O 4000 is on the fritz. But considering Goyer is also a producer, and not just the writer - I dunno.

I heard about that too... I desperately want to see that movie. It sounds great.
 
Has it been confirmed that Bale won't return? I have a feeling they will bring him back. Kind of odd to throw a new one in there, especially since the last one just came out last year.
 
I think Lex and Bruce/Batman should be the antagonists, with Lex being a main villain and perhaps someone else. Bruce should eventually come around to Supes' side when he learns more about him.
 
Has it been confirmed that Bale won't return? I have a feeling they will bring him back. Kind of odd to throw a new one in there, especially since the last one just came out last year.

Bale has said he won't return and WB has said they're moving on from the Dark Knight trilogy.
 
Which are mostly terrible. Contained stories are good but the comic universe shit with multiple times lines / cross overs / world events are so bad. We dont need that in movies.
Just because there are comic book writers that are bad at writing crossovers doesn't mean that the concept of comic book crossovers are bad. Better writers should be writing better crossovers.
 
Just because there are comic book writers that are bad at writing crossovers doesn't mean that the concept of comic book crossovers are bad. Better writers should be writing better crossovers.

This. Some of you are very close minded. Some of the best comic book stories ever written involve the entire fictional universe of a respective company.
 
Comics can be so dumb sometimes
That whole story was supposed to be goofy. In it Superman and Batman travel through all sorts of alternate universes. The primary antagonists are twisted versions of the New Avengers, but everything turns out to be illusions created by Joker and Mxyzptlk. They've been quarreling since the events of Emperor Joker, which itself is fun read. There's a point where Batman dies on every other page.
 
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