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bernardobri said:
Happy holidays Comics Gaf!

Since Kingdom Come is one of my favorite DC books, the only comic-related thing I wanted was Rough Justice, an Alex Ross sketch book that features a lot of his drawings, covers, etc.

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I definitely recommend it if you like his pieces.
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Do they go into who he uses as his models at all?
 
krypt0nian said:
Do they go into who he uses as his models at all?
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Nope. The book is mostly composed of sketch layouts for his comic works, comic proposals, pencils for a lot of his covers, costume revamps for some characters, and such. There's a review here if you want more references about it.
 
bernardobri said:
Nope. The book is mostly composed of sketch layouts for his comic works, comic proposals, pencils for a lot of his covers, costume revamps for some characters, and such. There's a review here if you want more references about it.
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Still sounds awesome. I'm just always interested in people's life models. Especially when they are Superman life models. ;)


MERRY CHRISTMAS, ComicGAF!
 
Christmas doesn't come for me until Wednesday. :)
 
I got the New 52 hardcover collecting every #1 issue. It is hilariously unwieldy. I haven't read any DC in two years until today. I thoroughly enjoyed Animal Man, Demon Knights, and Justice League Dark.

Anybody here go all digital? I have an ipad so I could go that route. I would have to order from Midtown to get floppies so it would be nice to actually read issues on their publication date for the first time. Something in my history of collecting makes me hesitant about paying full price for digital comics. (I have a Kindle and use it frequently with no mental block about buying and reading regular books via digital.)
 
Guileless said:
I got the New 52 hardcover collecting every #1 issue. It is hilariously unwieldy. I haven't read any DC in two years until today. I thoroughly enjoyed Animal Man, Demon Knights, and Justice League Dark.
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I was arguing at a guy about how ridiculous it would be to try and actually read the comics via that thing. He was like, "Oh I'm not gonna read it, I'm just gonna take it around to cons to get it signed," to which my retort was "So who are your other 5 pallbearers?"
 
Guileless said:
I got the New 52 hardcover collecting every #1 issue. It is hilariously unwieldy. I haven't read any DC in two years until today. I thoroughly enjoyed Animal Man, Demon Knights, and Justice League Dark.

Anybody here go all digital? I have an ipad so I could go that route. I would have to order from Midtown to get floppies so it would be nice to actually read issues on their publication date for the first time. Something in my history of collecting makes me hesitant about paying full price for digital comics. (I have a Kindle and use it frequently with no mental block about buying and reading regular books via digital.)
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I have. In the last 2 months I've dropped paper entirely from my comics singles diet. And it's fantastic, best decision I ever made. One thing I've noticed is that in buying them one at a time, pressing that 'buy' button, I'm not buying mediocre or middling comics any more. Just the great stuff, and more of it. It's made me really excited to read comics again.

My new ethos is that I buy digital for good comics and for comics that I absolutely can't wait for. But the great comics I will buy (and in some cases double dip) in trade format. That way I get the best of both worlds. You can even wait a month and save a dollar, and pick up great books in killer sales (as I mentioned upthread, I bought Dark Knight Returns and Stumptown this week at a dollar an issue). But you save the most money in cutting out the crap from your collecting budget. I used to buy so many bad comics, I'm ashamed at the money I threw away.

And the money I save in buying singles is letting me buy more amazing trades that I've been putting off for years. Total win/win.
 
Still chuggin' along my huge haul from last week. Ghostbusters was really great again this month and TMNT is finally getting good. Glad the slow build is starting to pay off.
 
I thought it was bleh for the price so I dropped it after #2 with JLI, Action, and Frankenstien. :/

I just bought all the frankenstiens on digital today (even the 2 I had already) so you 2 that like it don't need to hate me.
I still think the "dark" section of the restart is probably the best thing to come out of all of this.
 
The only Dark book from the New 52 I'm not reading is Resurrection Man. I love the rest a lot. Even Frank.

JLA has been kind of dumb/simplistic for a Johns Joint but the art has been great, there's lots of action and every issue so far has had a line in it that denigrates Batman, so it's A-Ok in my book!
 
The boys at the shop happened to be "discussing" the latest issue when I dropped by for my comics last week, so I flipped through a copy at the rack to see what they were ranting about. Twenty-two pages of decompressed storytelling where the heroes spend as much time bickering as they do not having a clue, and five pages of that get spent on Darkseid posing in TWO double-page spreads and a full-page closeup where he says, "I am DARKSEID" before you get the "to be continued." Oh, and for your $4 you get some half-baked prose "bonus material" that used to end up in the hardcover/trade collections, because Marvel is getting away with that sh*t so why not us too?

I agree with kryp, though, "sloppy" isn't the right word; that implies on some level that what they're doing wasn't entirely intentional.

Oh, and good morning everybody. Enjoy Christmas? :D
 
I would have put Jeff Lemire on that list. His work on Frankenstein and Animal Man will surely usher in some marquee DC work.
 
Figure I'll ask in this thread.

I'm home for christmas, and have a box of comic books from when I was a kid. What's the easiest way to find out their value?
 
Man, Animal Man and Swamp Thing are god damn amazing. Even if I dropped everything else in the New 52, I would still read those two, because they're fucking awesome.

I'm glad Scott Snyder is doing Batman as well, though, because that is turning out to be great as well. It's also nice to see him saddled with the likes of Yanick Paquette and Greg Capullo.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Comparing Bendis' Avengers run to Chris Claremont's legendary run on the X-Men isn't far off

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It's a bit soon to tell if the Bendis run on Avengers will look as dated as what Chris Claremont did on X-Men.

The both brought the franchise they worked on to the center of the Marvel Universe, their writing ain't all that good but there's no way Avengers stays stuck with Bendis tropes as much as X-Men did.
 
My Christmas gets:
* Animal Man Vol. 2 by Grant Morrison
* Animal Man Vol. 3 by Grant Morrison
* I Kill Giants by Joe Kelly
* Joe the Barbarian by Grant Morrison
* Saga of the Swamp Thing by Alan Moore

Garryk said:
I would have put Jeff Lemire on that list. His work on Frankenstein and Animal Man will surely usher in some marquee DC work.
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He's also got his new creator-owned piece through Top Shelf next summer, The Underwater Welder. I'm very excited for that.

On another Lemire related note, I saw his first comic Lost Dogs just got a quiet digital re-release and will be getting a print version in April 2012 too. So that's cool.
 
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Ooh, I missed that Roots of the Swamp Thing was being reprinted. I will get that. I've been wanting to read all of Len Wein's original work with the character.

Also plan to give Chase a try.
 
Complex's Top 25 Comics of 2011

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2011/12/the-25-best-comic-books-of-2011

Good list, decent mix of mainstream superhero stuff with "hey look we read other indie books please acknoledge us TTOB!" material. More Infinite Kung-Fu love is ALWAYS a good thing. Still think the DCnU stuff is too damn high. I mean, I like Swamp Thing and Animal Man as much as the next guy, and quality > quanity, but are those four issues of Snyder's Batman really that much better then the 16 Uncanny X-Force put out this year, or the 24(!) and a half Amazing Spider-Man did?

At the same token though, their #1 choice is a new series that's only a little over half a dozen issues in, and I have no problem with it being there.

Most noticeable snubs being Casanova: Avaritia(only two issues so far, but they're brilliant and quirky and the industry just doesn't have enough books like it, plus number of issues clearly isn't an issue on this list), Wolverine and the X-men(same reasoning as above but replace "brilliant" with "stupid amount of fun"), and Scalped(THE best on-going of the past 5 years, hands down).
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Complex's Top 25 Comics of 2011

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2011/12/the-25-best-comic-books-of-2011

Good list, decent mix of mainstream superhero stuff with "hey look we read other indie books please acknoledge us TTOB!" material. More Infinite Kung-Fu love is ALWAYS a good thing. Still think the DCnU stuff is too damn high. I mean, I like Swamp Thing and Animal Man as much as the next guy, and quality > quanity, but are those four issues of Snyder's Batman really that much better then the 16 Uncanny X-Force put out this year, or the 24(!) and a half Amazing Spider-Man did?

At the same token though, their #1 choice is a new series that's only a little over half a dozen issues in, and I have no problem with it being there.

Most noticeable snubs being Casanova: Avaritia(only two issues so far, but they're brilliant and quirky and the industry just doesn't have enough books like it, plus number of issues clearly isn't an issue on this list), Wolverine and the X-men(same reasoning as above but replace "brilliant" with "stupid amount of fun"), and Scalped(THE best on-going of the past 5 years, hands down).
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I'm most puzzled by the continued love for The Walking Dead. Has the shine really not come off for some people? The plotting was cool and different for awhile, but it started to get fairly repetitive. Plus, Robert Kirkman has never been been able to write competent dialogue or to engage in visual storytelling.

Cyclops has me intrigued, I think I'll add that to my list of things to check out.
 
Dan said:
I'm most puzzled by the continued love for The Walking Dead. Has the shine really not come off for some people? The plotting was cool and different for awhile, but it started to get fairly repetitive. Plus, Robert Kirkman has never been been able to write competent dialogue or to engage in visual storytelling.

Cyclops has me intrigued, I think I'll add that to my list of things to check out.
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I only read Walking Dead in trades so I don't quite have the same month-in/month-out tiredness that other readers may have, but I think the book just keeps getting stronger. Every trade without fail will have me in exhausted, terrified tears. Ever since volume 7 (you know, when THAT happens...) it's been a gut wrenching horrible journey and I love it. New trade very soon I think, I can't wait (to get that sick feeling in my stomach and have a good cry).

But yeah, Kirkman's dialogue is a bit crap at times, he only has a couple of voices. But I think the way he handles Carl is fantastic. All the emotional truth in the series comes right from Rick and Carl.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Complex's Top 25 Comics of 2011

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2011/12/the-25-best-comic-books-of-2011

Good list, decent mix of mainstream superhero stuff with "hey look we read other indie books please acknoledge us TTOB!" material. More Infinite Kung-Fu love is ALWAYS a good thing. Still think the DCnU stuff is too damn high. I mean, I like Swamp Thing and Animal Man as much as the next guy, and quality > quanity, but are those four issues of Snyder's Batman really that much better then the 16 Uncanny X-Force put out this year, or the 24(!) and a half Amazing Spider-Man did?

At the same token though, their #1 choice is a new series that's only a little over half a dozen issues in, and I have no problem with it being there.

Most noticeable snubs being Casanova: Avaritia(only two issues so far, but they're brilliant and quirky and the industry just doesn't have enough books like it, plus number of issues clearly isn't an issue on this list), Wolverine and the X-men(same reasoning as above but replace "brilliant" with "stupid amount of fun"), and Scalped(THE best on-going of the past 5 years, hands down).
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No Ghostbusters or TMNT, but Detective makes the top ten?
 
That list just reminds me that there's more good books out there than I can afford. :( I guess it's better to have that problem than the opposite.

Got Batman: The Black Mirror hardcover for Christmas, which was pretty great. Made me miss Dick Bats though. And one question
Was James Jr. lying completely when he said Jim had put him in a cell next to the Joker to scare him straight, or was he just lying about mentioning Babs? Was pretty confused since that seems pretty out of character for the Commissioner.

Also got flooded with B&N gift cards so I'll be able to finish Ex Machina and get the two most recent trades of The Unwritten. Besides that, I'm not sure what to get. I hear good things about Chew, Locke & Key, Daytripper, and the new Finder collections so if GAF has thoughts on any of those I'd love to hear 'em.
 
To be fair, it's Snyder's Detective, which I imagine is a far sight better than Daniels' current Detective.
 
Jedeye Sniv said:
I only read Walking Dead in trades so I don't quite have the same month-in/month-out tiredness that other readers may have, but I think the book just keeps getting stronger. Every trade without fail will have me in exhausted, terrified tears. Ever since volume 7 (you know, when THAT happens...) it's been a gut wrenching horrible journey and I love it. New trade very soon I think, I can't wait (to get that sick feeling in my stomach and have a good cry).

But yeah, Kirkman's dialogue is a bit crap at times, he only has a couple of voices. But I think the way he handles Carl is fantastic. All the emotional truth in the series comes right from Rick and Carl.
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I only do trades as well, but quit after Vol 12.

It's just the same stuff again and again. Rick finds himself in a new community. It's wonderful at first, then he has disagreements with the leadership, secrets are revealed, his own leadership is questioned, etc, and then zombies come in and ruin it. Then they go and do the same thing but in a new environment.

All the while we're stuck with Kirkman's awful dialogue, where he doesn't trust his artist one bit nor his readers' intelligence, and has his character explicitly articulate everything that's going on and all of their feelings every single time they have a damn conversation. Hey Kirkman, I could have gotten all of that from a well done facial expression, I didn't need another of Rick's monologues.

The long-form nature of the story managed to overcome the flaws for a while, since that was unique and rare, but eventually it was too much. I'd love to see a much stronger writer do this kind of thing. It's a tricky comparison, but I think Jeff Lemire's done it with Sweet Tooth, in terms of the post-apocalyptic survival tale.
 
Dan said:
I only do trades as well, but quit after Vol 12.

It's just the same stuff again and again. Rick finds himself in a new community. It's wonderful at first, then he has disagreements with the leadership, secrets are revealed, his own leadership is questioned, etc, and then zombies come in and ruin it. Then they go and do the same thing but in a new environment.

All the while we're stuck with Kirkman's awful dialogue, where he doesn't trust his artist one bit nor his readers' intelligence, and has his character explicitly articulate everything that's going on and all of their feelings every single time they have a damn conversation. Hey Kirkman, I could have gotten all of that from a well done facial expression, I didn't need another of Rick's monologues.

The long-form nature of the story managed to overcome the flaws for a while, since that was unique and rare, but eventually it was too much. I'd love to see a much stronger writer do this kind of thing. It's a tricky comparison, but I think Jeff Lemire's done it with Sweet Tooth, in terms of the post-apocalyptic survival tale.
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It's funny, I can see that most of your points are valid but I still really enjoy the book. And yeah, I totally agree that Lemire is doing the whole apocalypse thing with a lot more subtlety and style, but they are very different books.

I think what I enjoy most about Walking Dead is that the group are slowly (glacially) becoming the bad guys. When these people turn up on your doorstep, you should be scared. Because they are all broken at the most fundamental levels. It's like they all have PTSD but haven't been able to stop moving long enough for the tremors to set in.

Take the recent arc for instance with the new town (spoiler tags for those that haven't read this far yet)
I think that, isolated incidents aside, the town was getting along just fine before the group arrive. And then bit by bit they've taken over the town. These grizzled outsiders are paranoid and violent and quick to temper, and they've put this whole town in danger. Where before the group were victims from every angle, now they're aggressors, moving in to a territory and changing it to suit them. It's really scary and subtle stuff, even though it does move very slowly.

My other favourite things have been how Carl has handled (or hasn't handled) the violence he's committed over the series. It's heart breaking, this little kid is a killer. When he killed Shane it was fairly defensible but when he killed the other kid he crossed a line into psychopathy, I wonder where Kirkman is headed with it (if he even survives after being shot in the head last trade, that was a shocker).

And the stuff with Rick and the telephone has been fantastic, when he first started talking to Lori it was one of the saddest, most affecting things I've ever read. Beats like that are what make me stay interested in the series.
 
I read the Walking Dead only in trade form for the first few years and it was torture waiting. I switched to picking up the issues in the last year and I still love it. I see the repetition, but I also see how the characters have grown over their experiences. Maybe I'm just too invested to give it up, but I still enjoy each issue, even the "filler" ones. I'm very much looking forward to what happens next.
 
I can't read any of Kirkman's comics because his dialog is just so damn terrible. I can't care about of the characters if they sound like exposition-spewing robots.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
I can't read any of Kirkman's comics because his dialog is just so damn terrible. I can't care about of the characters if they sound like exposition-spewing robots.
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Interesting, you've got to be the only person i've ever heard complain about Kirkman's dialogue. Do you find this to be the case in Invincible?
 
WascallyWabbit said:
Interesting, you've got to be the only person i've ever heard complain about Kirkman's dialogue.
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Our very own Benjamin Birdie who now hates me touches on it in a review for Walking Dead.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=user_review&id=2492

But basically, its too much dialog and its so stilted and unnatural, never disguising the fact that the characters are props used to give story information to the audience. I just can't believe in any of these people.
 
i also wished more comics would stop using those damn narration boxes and would just let the art work tell the story

i was reading Batwoman the other day and i noticed that there havent been any in the book at all so far. i don't even think they were in Elegy
 
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