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Commonwealth Games village 'compromised' by filth, security issues

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Are those paw prints?
 
Some officials are defending the rooms, saying the westerners have overly high standards of cleanliness:

"Everyone has different standards about cleanliness. The Westerners have different standards, we have different standards," Lalit Bhanot

*looks at BBC pics*....I'm sorry, shit all over the walls and sink, non working plumbing and holes in the walls are not acceptable standards for anyone....and why the fuck is there shit in the sink anyway? Who shits in a sink?
 
Meadows said:
Some officials are defending the rooms, saying the westerners have overly high standards of cleanliness:

"Everyone has different standards about cleanliness. The Westerners have different standards, we have different standards," Lalit Bhanot

*looks at BBC pics*....I'm sorry, shit all over the walls and sink, non working plumbing and holes in the walls are not acceptable standards for anyone....and why the fuck is there shit in the sink anyway? Who shits in a sink?


They can't be fucking serious. This is not acceptable any where regardless of standard.

:lol :lol
 
It's a shame, since if this had gone well India could be looking at hosting the olympics in the not too distant future. Imagine what the ceremonies would be like.
 
What i meant by back-up city is if it was canceled, what city would step in?

Doesn't the Olympics and the cwg have contingency plans for this kind of thing? surely they must?
 
Meadows said:
*looks at BBC pics*....I'm sorry, shit all over the walls and sink, non working plumbing and holes in the walls are not acceptable standards for anyone....and why the fuck is there shit in the sink anyway? Who shits in a sink?

Yep. More to the point, is that blood in the shower ?

I think it's shit.


Yeah i think your right.

its not shit. they are paan stains (kinda like indian mouth freshener)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paan
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Go319 said:
What i meant by back-up city is if it was canceled, what city would step in?

Doesn't the Olympics and the cwg have contingency plans for this kind of thing? surely they must?

No, its expensive enough to get one city to hold it, but all the planning for a back-up city that probably would never get used is ridiculous.

There is no back-up, if this fails, then there is no commonwealth games until Glasgow 2014.
 
Meadows said:
Some officials are defending the rooms, saying the westerners have overly high standards of cleanliness:

"Everyone has different standards about cleanliness. The Westerners have different standards, we have different standards," Lalit Bhanot

*looks at BBC pics*....I'm sorry, shit all over the walls and sink, non working plumbing and holes in the walls are not acceptable standards for anyone....and why the fuck is there shit in the sink anyway? Who shits in a sink?

I was about to say this. It's bad enough to make the world think that your country is incompetent without saying that your own people are content with living in shit.

And for the record I once took a shit in the sink. I was hammered and realised if I sat on the toilet I'd pass out. It wasn't my house.

Meadows said:
No, its expensive enough to get one city to hold it, but all the planning for a back-up city that probably would never get used is ridiculous.

There is no back-up, if this fails, then there is no commonwealth games until Glasgow 2014.

Glasgow's going to have to save the Commonwealth Games. That's a fact. There's no way possible we can fuck up as bad as India. Unless of course we decide to put the athletes' village in Drumchapel, and even then we could have a PR guy say "now a ken yoose guys hae diff'rent standards ae cleanliness an aw that pish but..."
 
i think the DOC misunderstood the level of organisation needed.

Sydney had most (pretty much all) of the venues ready 12 months in advance of the olympics and understood how they would work that far in advance. The Chinese were the same, Beijing was ready, way in advance. The Greeks were all over the place, unsurprisingly.

this isn't a 20/20 game in an existing stadium, this is a massive multi-sport event that requires a massive amount of co-ordination and you need to be way in front of it. I'm not sure that was understood.

The Australians have called in professional cleaners etc to finish their accommodation. I have a sneaking suspicion they knew in advance and that was already organised. :lol
 
shaft said:
This. One child policy India, it's time now.
:lol

One child policy has created massive demographic problems in China. Like the crisis that'll happen in the West when the baby boomers retire, but much worse.

Better to get cheap, safe contraception to women and improve their economic condition so they don't want so many kids.
 
industrian said:
Glasgow's going to have to save the Commonwealth Games. That's a fact. There's no way possible we can fuck up as bad as India. Unless of course we decide to put the athletes' village in Drumchapel, and even then we could have a PR guy say "now a ken yoose guys hae diff'rent standards ae cleanliness an aw that pish but..."
:lol I can't believe I understood this on the first read through. How embarrassing.
 
Doesn't surprise me after a friend came back from India talking about people vomiting and shitting on sidewalks, then hanging their laundry over it.
 
Darklord said:
Man, those pictures. Disgusting. Who the hell shits in a shower? WHO?
Somewhere in the abyss of this forum there is a thread dealing with this very subject. It goes pretty well with the thread about people undressing to a complete nude when they go to the toilet.
 
Darklord said:
Man, those pictures. Disgusting. Who the hell shits in a shower? WHO?

Its not shit.

Its Paan stains from what I can see.

Not that that is acceptable, India should have never asked to host the games anyway in the first place.

Indian sport committees are full of corruption, so is the Indian government in most states and so is the bureaucracy.

Or, if the games had been held in Ahmedabad, that might have given them a better chance.
 
kaysee said:
As they say "every dog has its day" :lol :lol

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Your comment and the picture made me :lol

Where the Beijing Olympic games will make the London games look like utter shit India will make the Glasgow commonwealth games look fucking spectacular.
 
Lyphen said:
Doesn't surprise me after a friend came back from India talking about people vomiting and shitting on sidewalks, then hanging their laundry over it.

IIRC the Chinese government "advised" people in Beijing how to act during the Olympics and such. As in: stop spitting, don't leave dead pets/animals outside your house, etc. I'm sure the Korean government did something similar before they hosted the World Cup in 2002 as well. The entire point of hosting international events such as these are to show off that you're a developed country - even if it's just a façade for the media.
 
Korey said:
What did the Team USA "chef de mission" have to say about this? I really doubt we'd send our athletes to such conditions. Good thing we're probably rich enough to rent/buy super nice apartments somewhere else there for them :lol
You are not in the Commonwealth retard :lol
 
Lyphen said:
Doesn't surprise me after a friend came back from India talking about people vomiting and shitting on sidewalks, then hanging their laundry over it.

So he just saw those people in India everywhere?

Like you know, India is a big country, with an enourmous wealth divide. There are many parts to it, and many people can only afford to shit on railway tracks or outside. Nothing to do with the games itself, but maybe you should try and understand that people don't shit on the sidewalks just because they want to.
 
Sad, I'm not Indian but I was born in New Delhi and it's frustrating to see the politicians and people in power still holding the nation down and fucking it to death. 28 years later nothing has changed :(


Prine said:
:lol

Brown people [fresh from the motherland, not the western Brownies] are in my experience the most poorly organized people i've ever dealt with.

What the fucking fuck?
 
speedpop said:
Somewhere in the abyss of this forum there is a thread dealing with this very subject. It goes pretty well with the thread about people undressing to a complete nude when they go to the toilet.
wat
 
cartoon_soldier said:
So he just saw those people in India everywhere?

Like you know, India is a big country, with an enourmous wealth divide. There are many parts to it, and many people can only afford to shit on railway tracks or outside. Nothing to do with the games itself, but maybe you should try and understand that people don't shit on the sidewalks just because they want to.

Surely they could use a bucket or do it in the plants like my cat does? I mean, honestly - if I was poor as sin, I'd still at least attempt to keep my dignity.
 
justjohn said:
it went wrong because india was chosen to host it. thats where it wrong
Will you just fuck off already about this? For the past 3 pages, your shitting this thread and on India. Go shit some other thread if you don't have anything constructive to add. Not sure why your not banned yet.
 
RustyNails said:
Will you just fuck off already about this? For the past 3 pages, your shitting this thread and on India. Go shit some other thread if you don't have anything constructive to add. Not sure why your not banned yet.

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I feel bad for the Indians that are serious about the image their country projects. If they ever wanted to host an Olympic event, their chances are now utterly fucked for several decades.
 
india was supposed to bid for the 2030 olympics and FIFA WC, they can kiss that dream goodbye right now. oh well... we still have next years Formula 1 GP to look forward to :D
 
RustyNails said:
Will you just fuck off already about this? For the past 3 pages, your shitting this thread and on India. Go shit some other thread if you don't have anything constructive to add. Not sure why your not banned yet.
wtf. lots of people shitting :lol on india in this thread, and you pick on me? :lol
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/09/23/commonwealth.games.child.labor/index.html?hpt=C1

Hard evidence of child labor at 2010 Commonwealth Games

(CNN) -- As Indian officials struggle to deal with mounting international criticism toward the safety and security of Commonwealth Game athletes, new evidence has emerged that show children as young as seven are being used in the construction of game venues.
In an exclusive interview with CNN International, Harvard fellow and trafficking expert Siddharth Kara told Becky Anderson that child labor was a widespread and well known issue in New Delhi.
"I reliably documented in just a few days 32 cases of forced labor and 14 cases of child labor all for construction related to the Commonwealth Games," Kara said on Connect the World.
"The children I saw were the ones where I felt I had documented child labor -- where children were working, picking up hammers, banging stones, paving entry ways and planting grass along the roads to beautify them, hours and hours at a time."
"I documented children aged seven, eight, nine, ten years old working alongside their families in this mad rush to get the construction completed."
Kara, a renowned expert on the subject of human trafficking, also outlined the harsh conditions these children were forced to work under.
"The conditions are sub-human and that's really the only word I can apply," Kara said.
"They live in the dirt, they go to the toilet behind bushes and trees which is why they found human excrement in the athletes village a few days ago.

"The children, especially the young ones, don't have a sense of what's going on. They're told to do the work and they just do the work. They don't know that they should be in school or that they should be playing."
CNN anchor Becky Anderson pushed Kara on the issue and questioned the methods he used to document the cases of child labor and whether they were not just children accompanying their parents on job sites.
Kara responded by explaining that he went to great lengths to accurately document these cases.
"I didn't just show up, turn up and then carry on to the next site because it took me several days to document these 30 or 40 cases," Kara said.
"It would take me hours to document, in the heat and high humidity. It's not just kids playing in the dirt or using a hammer as a toy."
CNN tried back on July 23, 2010, to contact the chief minister for New Delhi and minister responsible, Sheila Dixit about the allegations made by Kara, but after several attempts, no official reply was ever made.
Dixit did finally speak to CNN's Connect the World this past Tuesday and said that if she was aware of the allegations of child labor in the first place, she would have acted.
"If this gentleman, whoever this student was from Harvard, if he had come to us, told us that this is what was happening there, we would have taken immediate action," Dixit said.
The minister also went on to say that "she had wished" somebody would have come and told her of the allegations.
Kara, who was asked of Dixit's response, said that he had in fact tried to contact Indian government officials of his findings.
"I tried to let people know back in mid-July and I tried to contact the ministry of labor several times about my findings but had no response," Kara said.






So now we know where are that shit in the athletes village came from. Child workers. They should cancel this farce of a game and India should be barred from hosting any international sporting event for 100 years.
 
yesterday's front page had a pic of child labourers installing seats at the stadium. the photographer was ejected, had his credentials revoked and they tried to wipe his camera.

viciouskillersquirrel said:
:lol

One child policy has created massive demographic problems in China. Like the crisis that'll happen in the West when the baby boomers retire, but much worse.

Better to get cheap, safe contraception to women and improve their economic condition so they don't want so many kids.

but wasn't that an entirely foreseen occurence? You're trying to decrease your population. Of course there'll be a time when the last big generation reaches old age and is followed by the first small generation.
 
Zenith said:
but wasn't that an entirely foreseen occurence? You're trying to decrease your population. Of course there'll be a time when the last big generation reaches old age and is followed by the first small generation.

The demographics crisis in India and China is that in the foreseeable future you may see the vast majority of the population being male, and not having enough women. Basically due to gender-based abortions being carried out. This is due to the One Child Policy. Because if you're only allowed to have one kid, boys will earn more money and won't cost as much. That and they'll carry on the family lineage of course. This is currently a MASSIVE problem in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion_and_female_infanticide
 
justjohn said:
wtf. lots of people shitting :lol on india in this thread, and you pick on me? :lol
No, only YOU are shitting this thread without anything to say or add other than "lol india sux lol lol india sux lol india sux"

Fuck off already.
 
kaysee said:
india was supposed to bid for the 2030 olympics and FIFA WC, they can kiss that dream goodbye right now. oh well... we still have next years Formula 1 GP to look forward to :D

Another Tilke track and no matter how good your facilities are I doubt it will be as impressive as Abu Dhabi, have the glamour or be able to build the prestige of Monaco, have the challenge that tracks like Spa represent or even have the novelty of the Singapore race.

But it is a shame this makes an Indian Olympics unlikely for several decades, much like the 2008 Olympics showed how far China had progressed and gave the west in particular a glimpse into their culture I'm sure an Indian Olympics would have the same effect.
 
Jexhius said:
You're not going to like it when India/China rule the world in the next fifteen years.

You appear to have made the same mistake that the folks who picked India did.

"3rd world countries host events all the time, itll be great!"

Yeah, because all 3rd world countries are the same?


You have the decent tier....

China
Brazil
South Africa
Greece
Russia


You have the crap tier
India
Vietnam
Congo

You have the supreme crap tier
Zimbabwe
Sierra Leon
 
jamesinclair said:
You appear to have made the same mistake that the folks who picked India did.

"3rd world countries host events all the time, itll be great!"

Yeah, because all 3rd world countries are the same?


You have the decent tier....

China
Brazil
South Africa
Greece
Russia


You have the crap tier
India
Vietnam
Congo

You have the supreme crap tier
Zimbabwe
Sierra Leon

Fortunately, the situations seems to be improving. Word on the street is that the workers are working round the clock, with only 9 days to the start of the event. Its like the corrupt fat cats who guzzled billions of ruppees in corruption suddenly realized the enormity of their actions.

Boost for organisers

In what could be the first encouraging signs for the Indian organisers, two senior international sports officials declared on Friday that conditions at the Games' village had greatly improved, though they said clean-up work should continue urgently.

The same day, the first foreign athletes - the English hockey and lawn bowling teams - arrived in New Delhi. However, they planned to stay in hotels for a few days before moving to the village, where thousands of cleaners have been pressed into urgent action.

"Everybody is very excited and wants to get into action and get going really," Caroline Searle, a spokesperson for the England Commonwealth Games organising body, said.

Some of the athletes later toured the village to assess the conditions there.

"The flats are spacious, which is good for a major games, but there are bits and pieces to be done to bring them up to standard," Ben Middleton, an English hockey player, said in a statement.

"A couple of days will make a difference."

Also, after holding its team back because of the problems, New Zealand decided to attend the games.

Meanwhile, Mike Fennell, the Commonwealth Games Federation head, toured the athletes' village and met senior officials from participating countries. He was also due to meet KM Chandrasekhar, the most senior aide to the Indian prime minister.

Fennel's staff informed him that "considerable improvements have been made within the village", he said in a statement.

"It is vital that all remedial work that has already started continues with the greatest urgency."

"There is an army of cleaners at work in the athletes' village and sprays [against dengue fever] are being used all across the area."

And this should come as no surprise:
But polls in the local media show that a vast majority of Indians are ashamed of the Commonwealth Games mismanagement.

Again I still stand by my original contention that India shouldn't have gone for this. The risks were far too high.
 
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