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[Soul_Pie]

i'm sorry but what the fuck is wrong with the community fan base. wait, no, the fucking sperglord army that attaches to things and makes them worthy hating for no reason other than their fans?

that last episode, set in the worst possible setting for those who hate what the show was becoming, was able to provide both fan service, some genuine laughs, and a little bit of heart. and every place on the internet is like "DAN HARMON. you don't understand... the sooooul is missing.

if you can only quantify the fucking quality of your show in baseless terms on liberal forums, fuck you. fuck you so hard for having absolutely shit to say.

if you can actually criticize these new episodes in comparison to the previous seasons, then do. if you can only say "well the soul is missing" or some other half-brained, bad post with zero logic then don't bother. really. maybe a few other dozen Incapable To Communicate Properly internet losers will "get you," but i don't.

got no idea what any of you are talking about. this show is hilarious again. it blends its strengths with some normalcy and progresses itself throughout each episode instead of continually trying to undo whatever progression it makes from ep-to-ep. it's good.

this is so good.

sorry the soul is gone

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NOT.

WTF was that? Can you not refer to the "Community fanbase" as if we're one giant hivemind of Harmon worshiping, life hating killjoys who want to ruin it for everyone? Many people have offered up valid reasons as to why IN THEIR OPINION, without uttering the name Harmon, the show is not going so well, or not up to the same standards as we would have liked, and a lot of them have been fair. In contrast a lot have been posting some very positive reviews of the new season as well, which is also fair as well. I can't disagree with something that is entirely subjective, we can't dictate to eachother what makes us laugh, what parts of community resonated with us, what works in terms of comedic scenarios etc especially when it comes to a show as varied as Community. If people's criticisms amount to "Harmon left, now the show is crap" then just ignore it.

In any case, reading through the threads before this one we still had people who couldn't agree on whether an episode was good or not and that was well before the showrunner left, and that's fine and dandy because that's how a discussion works. Just settle down a bit because not all of us are allowing Harmon's loss to skew our view of the program. Even though I've not enjoyed this season terribly so far I'm still going to watch it with a positive mindset, because there's still obviously a lot of talent on the show and many seasons start out slow.

In any case, I'm of the belief that some of the show's problems and a quality dip started while Harmon was at the helm, not that this is a sudden thing.

Also, you're going to have to explain sperglord to me.

 

[JohnDoe]

Isn't stuff like "sperging" used to insult others bannable btw?
I personally enjoy the new season, although I gotta admit season 1 and 2 are way better :/
I don't know man, everyone here actually justified their opinion. Rather than saying everybody is blindly hating on the show, try to actually argue against the "haters".
If you can't do that keep enjoying the show for yourself.

 

[Jest Chillin]

I think this image summarizes a couple key problems with new directions in the show.

- Over-reliance on "put thing in this scene's background, then mention it in other scene"
- Characters regressing to shallow one-dimensionality

I don't get the "over-reliance" part. We're 3 episodes in. How many times has it been used? Aside from that, there's absolutely nothing wrong with setting references like that to be used later. So I really don't see the problem.

I haven't seen a single character being shallow or one-dimensional, though we've yet to see much of Shirley. Every single character still has nuances and multiple levels but people are quick to forget or never noticed the little things. Like the claim that "Pierce is the bad guy again." He's not the bad guy at all. He's just a pain in the ass. Like he's always been. And Jeff and the rest of the group still feel like he's a pain in the ass because he is. Or the claims that Annie was reverting because she's imagining being Mrs. Winger, when it's obvious that what she enjoyed was being a Wife not necessarily his wife (Bell hop says, "Your husband's a lucky man" and Annie responds slyly "That he is.."). Also she mentions that she's a world famous police detective, so she's not childishly doting on Jeff, just waiting to wash his clothes in her fantasy either.

I didn't get that vibe from most of that though, like the interpretive dance. Whereas the Jeff + Annie kiss and everything that followed definitely had that relationship vibe.

It was pretty clear to me that there was definitely an interest between Troy and Britta that went further than friendship. It seemed quite obvious.

 

[Link]

Even so, the mechanism is the same. Put something in a scene, wait, then subtly reference it. While it seems clever at first, it's actually kind of lazy and cheap.

This is such a stupid thing to complain about. It's called an Easter egg, and lots of shows use them. They reward people who are paying attention. Arrested Development did it brilliantly. We gonna call that lazy now?

 

[beat]

Also she mentions that she's a world famous police detective

First time she's mentioned any career plan that's not a hospital administrator in quite some time. I'm thinking they're going to push that forensics idea that was advanced in the season premiere.

 

[inm8num2]

This is such a stupid thing to complain about. It's called an Easter egg, and lots of shows use them. They reward people who are paying attention. Arrested Development did it brilliantly. We gonna call that lazy now?

AD didn't have Zac Efron posters in people's rooms.

And you cut out the last part of my post which should have served as an antidote to you complaining about me complaining.

 

[Link]

AD didn't have Zac Efron posters in people's rooms.

And you cut out the last part of my post which should have served as an antidote to you complaining about me complaining.

Are you complaining purely because it's a movie poster? I'm not following.

And you saying "I'm not a hater" doesn't mean your complaint is unarguable.

 

[inm8num2]

Are you complaining purely because it's a movie poster? I'm not following.

And you saying "I'm not a hater" doesn't mean your complaint is unarguable.

I'm not really following your gripes either. You're upset that people don't find certain jokes to be all that funny?

I think last night's episode highlighted a number of weaknesses in the direction the show is taking in Harmon's absence. Others feel differently. We can leave it at that.

 

[JohnDoe]

AD didn't have Zac Efron posters in people's rooms.

And you cut out the last part of my post which should have served as an antidote to you complaining about me complaining.

As someone has already said, the poster is seen in season 3 too. It's by no means on the same level as AD easter eggs but it's still neat. It's not like they went "LOOK AT THAT ZAC EFFRON POSTER" at the beginning of the episode.

 

[magnificent83]

The Sherlock convention was fantastic.

My man, distracted me the whole episode, kept looking out for her.

 

[Link]

I'm not really following your gripes either. You're upset that people don't find certain jokes to be all that funny?

I think last night's episode highlighted a number of weaknesses in the direction the show is taking in Harmon's absence. Others feel differently. We can leave it at that.

You're arguing about the show's direction because of an Easter egg gag, when they've been doing those since way before this season. What does the Zac Efron poster and subsequent reference have to do with Harmon being gone? I guess I'm just not sure how point A connects to point B.

 

[Davey Cakes]

For some reason I went into this episode thinking it would be the worst Community episode yet.

Came out the same as last week. I enjoyed it. Better than the premiere and I didn't mind the Inspector Spacetime aspects.

I've come to accept that the show is divisive. Hell, it's always been divisive, and it's always been a cult show. Some folks would say it was terrible, even though in the same sentence they'd say they enjoyed The Office post-Season 6.

Last season in particular seemed to divide the fanbase even more, and that was while Harmon was still at the helm.

I'm just going to kick back and enjoy what I can of this show before it's done.

 

[SickBoy]

I like the fact that there isn't a real story thread running through the season... at least yet (i.e.: Chang takes over/AC repair school, etc.).

Everything seems a little off this year... in particular Pierce doesn't seem right to me.

But I've enjoyed the last two episodes well enough.... and the premiere I think was clever (re: Abed TV), if not particularly funny.

 

[RDreamer]

Everything seems a little off this year... in particular Pierce doesn't seem right to me.

That's my only complaint, and actually that isn't a this season thing at all. Pierce has been really off for quite some time now. Most of last season he was kind of odd, too. I feel like they ran out of things to do with him and/or some shit happened with him and they cut his character down as a response (I do think some stuff with Harmon did happen with him).

He's very very one dimensional in some episodes throughout the show.

 

[SlowRevolution]

Chevy was really unreliable on set so they probably didn't want to waste time on his character. I'm more disappointed that Shirley doesn't get much to do.

 

[Mariolee]

Still waiting on a classic table study group scene. Those seem like they would be the easiest to write for and are always the funnest to watch.

 

[beat]

Still waiting on a classic table study group scene. Those seem like they would be the easiest to write for and are always the funnest to watch.

I've been thinking that they'd want to get away from those because next season (if there is one) they'd have to not be a study group in the library. Even so, you'd think they'd want to start the season with one or two. So now I wonder if it's really about Chevy, and specifically not wanting to film ensemble scenes with him. Even when he's in the same scene with the group, he's been framed so he could have shot most of his stuff solo, with a stand-in while they shoot the rest of the group. But as efficient as that might be, there's no way to do a true study group table scene without Chase being there the whole time...

I think I've read elsewhere that those study table scenes take an incredibly long time to shoot.

 

[Kinyou]

Don't really like how most episodes are centered around Abed. I hoped they'd tone it down again for this season

 

[Guhnmystro]

I think the reason that Troy/Britta doesn't seem to be working was showcased in this episode, considering how tough the relationship appears to be with Britta having to compete with Abed for Troy's attention; and who knows? Maybe the relationship is being set up to fail, Troy said some pretty callous things towards Britta to try and appease Abed. "Britta can wait in the car if you don't want her here."

 

[Quick]

I think the reason that Troy/Britta doesn't seem to be working was showcased in this episode, considering how tough the relationship appears to be with Britta having to compete with Abed for Troy's attention; and who knows? Maybe the relationship is being set up to fail, Troy said some pretty callous things towards Britta to try and appease Abed. "Britta can wait in the car if you don't want her here."

There's a balance Troy is trying to make between Abed and Britta, and you can definitely feel like it's going to fall apart soon. This is from a storyline perspective.

It could just be poor execution in reality.

 

[PK Gaming]

I think the reason that Troy/Britta doesn't seem to be working was showcased in this episode, considering how tough the relationship appears to be with Britta having to compete with Abed for Troy's attention; and who knows? Maybe the relationship is being set up to fail, Troy said some pretty callous things towards Britta to try and appease Abed. "Britta can wait in the car if you don't want her here."

They took the bromance thing way, way, way to far. Troy is a really shitty boyfriend.

Which sucks, because I actually like the 2 character as a pair. I just wish Troy wasn't such a jackass/Britta wasn't so damn submissive (yeah sure go ahead and be an asshole).

 

[border]

I rather liked the last episode, but yeah, there is no way in hell that S1-S2 Britta would put up with being treated the way that Troy now treats her. But then again, didn't she put up with a lot of shit from Vaughn as well?

 

[Mariolee]

There's a balance Troy is trying to make between Abed and Britta, and you can definitely feel like it's going to fall apart soon. This is from a storyline perspective.

It could just be poor execution in reality.

I dunno, I thought the reason they were pushing Troy to be with Britta last season was so that he could grow up a little bit more. Britta seems pretty "worldly" I suppose compared to Troy, and fairly evident with the candy cigarette scene. And I was pretty excited, as I missed the development made in Mixology Certification (probably in my Top 5 Community episodes list) but how he reverted back in Remedial Chaos Theory. It's been a hard act balancing how Troy still has his Jock roots but now acts like a kid, and I feel like they've been mishandling that the past two seasons.

I rather liked the last episode, but yeah, there is no way in hell that S1-S2 Britta would put up with being treated the way that Troy now treats her. But then again, didn't she put up with a lot of shit from Vaughn as well?

I've always thought it was supposed to be ironic how she has constantly rebelled against "the man", but is always submissive to the men.

 

[Link]

Brittany seems to become very needy and submissive in a relationship. Remember Blade?

 

[Jayhawk]

I wish Tricia Helfer and Jennie Garth had more screen time in this week's episode.

 

[border]

Yeah, they made Troy into "Abed Part 2" and it seems like they don't know what to do about it. They want to change him into something different, but they keep pulling him back into Abed's world.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

As this season goes on, I can actually feel the lack of a heart this season has. I mean, I still really like it, but it's missing something.

 

[Oreoleo]

Brittany seems to become very needy and submissive in a relationship. Remember Blade?

Lolol who is blade

 

[Jest Chillin]

I think the reason that Troy/Britta doesn't seem to be working was showcased in this episode, considering how tough the relationship appears to be with Britta having to compete with Abed for Troy's attention; and who knows? Maybe the relationship is being set up to fail, Troy said some pretty callous things towards Britta to try and appease Abed. "Britta can wait in the car if you don't want her here."

They took the bromance thing way, way, way to far. Troy is a really shitty boyfriend.

Which sucks, because I actually like the 2 character as a pair. I just wish Troy wasn't such a jackass/Britta wasn't so damn submissive (yeah sure go ahead and be an asshole).

So far there's been two clashes caused by Abed and they actually weren't caused by Abed at all. The first was the Fountain, the solution of which was Troy accepting that things didn't have to be Abed's way constantly.. and the second was the Con, where Britta seemed perfectly fine with taking a backseat during.

I'm honestly not getting a vibe that they're in trouble at all.. I get the vibe that they're working through things just like any couple should. It would be unhealthy if Britta demanded Troy choose. It would be unhealthy if Troy picked one over the other. Right now they're all sharing time with each other and no one outwardly shows as having a problem with that... so it seems fine.

 

[user_nat]

So after all the negative previews for that episode I had pretty low expectations, but I actually really enjoyed it.

Better than the last 2 for sure.

 

[Nert]

Yeah, they made Troy into "Abed Part 2" and it seems like they don't know what to do about it. They want to change him into something different, but they keep pulling him back into Abed's world.

I really like the trajectory that his character seemed to be on after Mixology Certification from season 2. Although he was becoming goofier at times and enjoying his friendship with Abed more (having grown out of the "dumb jock" phase from early season 1, partially to better utilize Donald Glover's comedic strengths), he was also becoming much more mature. Before the air conditioning school arc got a little too cartoonish, I also liked that they were having him think hard about what kind of life he would want to live after Greendale. In short, he was developing into a functional adult in a believable way.

For a while now, though, he has been acting increasingly infantile at times and he really does come across as a less meta Abed sidekick in some episodes. The relationship with Britta may eventually loop around towards him growing as a person again, so there's hope there (at the moment, it's sort of doing the opposite). We'll see.

 

[Link]

Lolol who is blade

The carnival worker that had brain damage. And I meant Britta there. Stupid autocorrect.

 

[Oreoleo]

The carnival worker that had brain damage. And I meant Britta there. Stupid autocorrect.

Woosh. Man I forgot all about that guy. Really need to watch S3 again I guess.

 

[not psycho]

So after all the negative previews for that episode I had pretty low expectations, but I actually really enjoyed it.

Better than the last 2 for sure.

The Annie storyline was the best thing this season so far, after having read some reviews that it was the worst. I think they could have even taken it farther.

Still a disappointing episode overall though. The jokes are falling flat for me, and I can't help feeling if I didn't already like the characters I wouldn't like them.

 

[OnPoint]

This episode has really got people in a tizzy, huh? It was just kind of there to me. Nothing good, nothing bad. Just... there.

 

[Mariolee]

*Removed pics in case people figured it was spoilers, even though it doesn't show much at all*
Also, I never noticed this before, but has every every episode of Community this season had a guest star? First episode had Fred Willard, second had Giancarlo come back, third had Matt Lucas, Tricia Helfer, the 90210 stars, this next episode has Ian McDowell, and the episode after that will have

Spoiler

Adam Devine and Josh Brolin

. Pretty star studded.

 

[Loxley]

Hey guys, I don't know if you're aware of this (since the show has been astonishingly subtle about it), but the Dean likes to cross-dress.

 

[Trent Strong]

Looks like Dan Harmon really was the heart of this show, because it sucks now.

 

[Fey]

Wasn't this episode pretty negatively reviewed? I went into it with low expectations but ended up really liking it - I liked it a LOT more than the last two.

Though I think it's mainly because of the Jeff/Annie stuff. Wish their storyline got more screen time. Not really enjoying the Troy/Abed/Britta stuff in these episodes so far.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Hey guys, I don't know if you're aware of this (since the show has been astonishingly subtle about it), but the Dean likes to cross-dress.

Bring back the beard, Dean!

 

[jamesinclair]

Just watched the episode....

I really liked it. Much better than the premiere.


Highlights:

-The US inspector spacetime is a direct reference to the US It Crowd....which had Jeff Winger playing Roy (worst casting ever). Since almost no one actually saw the US It Crowd pilot....very narrow joke, but it worked well.

-The panel is another community vs big bang joke, or general nbc vs cbs commentary

-No chang

-Even with a low budget, the convention looked convincing

-Abed growing up


I didnt like how troy and britta went from "no touching" to "having sex for weeks" suddenly. Was an episode aired out of order?




Edit: Why does this page have future episode spoilers????

 

[OnPoint]

Just watched the episode....


...


Edit: Why does this page have future episode spoilers????

Because they never get covered in the Community threads for some reason. They got me before the season even started, sorry it happened to you now too.

 

[jamesinclair]

Because they never get covered in the Community threads for some reason. They got me before the season even started, sorry it happened to you now too.

Well, OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.

 

[AlphaSnake]

Eh, I actually liked it. Relationships are progressing. They aren't leaving the love angles in a ditch.

Jeff seems interested in Annie now. Pierce is pointless and the episodes show it. Abed...well he's a little overdone this season, but he is showing progress especially by not freaking out and knowing Troy would be there. Troy stood up for Abed by threatening to kick some ass. They aren't throwing in Chang needlessly into episodes, either. I don't know...I thought the episode was rather charming.

The show has lost the absurdity, which I'm sort of thankful for, actually. You can only be absurd for so long before it becomes more of a shtick than anything else.

 

[gabbo]

Eh, I actually liked it. Relationships are progressing. They aren't leaving the love angles in a ditch.

Jeff seems interested in Annie now. Pierce is pointless and the episodes show it. Abed...well he's a little overdone this season, but he is showing progress especially by not freaking out and knowing Troy would be there. Troy stood up for Abed by threatening to kick some ass. They aren't throwing in Chang needlessly into episodes, either. I don't know...I thought the episode was rather charming.

The show has lost the absurdity, which I'm sort of thankful for, actually. You can only be absurd for so long before it becomes more of a shtick than anything else.

The stories have fallen a bit more into typical sitcom-fare, at the expense of Season3's absurdity. I'm on the fence about that aspect, but like a lot of the other aspects, even in the shows new state.

 

[jb1234]

I didnt like how troy and britta went from "no touching" to "having sex for weeks" suddenly. Was an episode aired out of order?

This episode was produced fourth, last week's was third. Next week's was second, so that could be jarring.

 

[Mariolee]

This episode was produced fourth, last week's was third. Next week's was second, so that could be jarring.

....why? I mean, I get that originally it was so that they could get the Halloween episode on Halloween, but since it's been delayed it makes literally no sense to do this.

 

[jamesinclair]

This episode was produced fourth, last week's was third. Next week's was second, so that could be jarring.

That's what i thought.

So next week, Britta might get Troy to have sex with her for the first time

 

[The Real Abed]

Next week the Dean is going to introduce "Kevin" to the class so I guess the Chang thing at the end of the first episode was supposed to be a cliffhanger that would lead into the next episode. I wonder why they moved them around. That is so NBC of them. I guess if they had kept them in order, Valloween wouldn't have happened because it would have been the week after, and they couldn't move the premiere up a week because 30 Rock was not done yet. You just know they wanted to promote it as Valloween. But why also move last weeks as well instead of switching 2 to 3 instead of 4?

Whatever. Let's hope it's not as jarring and obvious as the last times they did it.

 

[Kinyou]

That's what i thought.

So next week, Britta might get Troy to have sex with her for the first time

All this time traveling is confusing me