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Confess Your Sins

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I hope the FBI is keeping tab on this thread as I feel we're going to delve into some animal torture fascination.

too late

As a kid I loved to torture things, bugs and lizards, I loved it and it made me feel powerful. I always dreamed of going forward to bigger things, but, I never attempted it. I still sometimes torture bugs for fun, it's disturbing, but, I admit it. I'm 50 shades of fucked up.

No...but I have been urged to kill cats and dogs.
 
Wtf? What made you do this? Also, what happened after?

He was an asshole, so I gave him a taste of mine

what happened after? I'm not sure. He eventually did his laundry, and never mentioned anything. Dude smelled like shit to begin with, so it probably didn't affect his clothes too much
 
He was an asshole, so I gave him a taste of mine

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I no longer make public confessions. I only confess to gaf anon threads.

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I don't really wash my own dishes. At least with soap. Since I'm the only one who uses my plates/bowls/silverware, I just rinse them off until all the grime is off. I just don't see the point since the germs are my own germs.

My roommates use their own dishes/silverware. Guests use paperplates/plastic utensils.

Ok that's... peculiar.
 
Okay, here's a confession.

I don't know why everyone's harassing Terrisus over veggies such as broccoli. What is going on?
 
I don't really wash my own dishes. At least with soap. Since I'm the only one who uses my plates/bowls/silverware, I just rinse them off until all the grime is off. I just don't see the point since the germs are my own germs.
I would love to to see a sample from your bacteria culture plate under a microscope. Good thing water completely removes the hydrophobic/oily components of foods that get stuck to your plate and would make for a good food source for the bacteria that originate from, say, your mouth, your skin, or anywhere else in your environment (or outside it). I mean, it really is a miracle that we live in completely sterile environments.

Wash your fucking dishes. With soap. Soap exists--and continues to exist--for a reason.

When was the last time you actually cleaned your dishes?
 
I never do my dishes, because I figure if I'm going to be cleaning the rest of the house the least my lazy ass roommates can do is my dirty dishes.
 
I did a lot of horrible, mean things as a teenager that I have no reason to admit to on here :P Have made my apologies and learnt from my mistakes.
 
I don't really wash my own dishes. At least with soap. Since I'm the only one who uses my plates/bowls/silverware, I just rinse them off until all the grime is off. I just don't see the point since the germs are my own germs.

My roommates use their own dishes/silverware. Guests use paperplates/plastic utensils.

Most soaps aren't antibacterial. And although standard soap is more effective at removing bacteria than water, it isn't significantly more effective than with just water. The truth is that you're fine either way, as long as the 'rinse' is thorough. Equally, we all have antimicrobial lipids within our skin, and at the skin's surface.

I've learned a lot about microbiology and nutrition over the years, and at some point I also started washing my dishes with just water. I also no longer consume sugar of any sort; lots of protein and animal fats.

As for the rare meat. A lot of people really don't understand what it means to 'cook' their meat. Meat is edible in its 'raw' state - you'd be stupid to deny the fact. The more you 'cook' it the more inedible it actually becomes. It becomes dehydrated, carcinogenic, and loses its nutritional value.

The concerns are primarily pathogens and parasites. The idea is to heat up the meat to a point where the pathogens and parasites cannot survive, without compromising the integrity of the meat (its nutritional density). Now, generally, the pathogen of most concern is e. coli. But e. coli is very misunderstood by the vast majority of people. All animals, including humans, have different strands of e. coli living within our intestines. You could quite literally give yourself an 'infection' by sticking your thumb up your own arsehole and rubbing it on your food. Typically the treatment for e. coli is antibiotics.

Not only that, but if you were to have hunted and killed the animal yourself in the wild, you wouldn't grab all of its organs and muscle meat and rub it inside of its intestines. But because of the way meat is processed in our modern society, it becomes contaminated with e. coli.

Usually, e. coli does not penetrate the surface of meat it has been transferred to. That is why eating 'rare' meat is 'acceptable'. You make sure the surface area of the meat has been fucked the hell up to kill the e. coli. And inside is e. coli free.

Now we move onto parasites. i.e tapeworm. The type of tapeworm that is likely to have eggs nested in muscle tissue differ among the types of animals. But these eggs exist within the muscle tissue. And if the same principle is applied as e. coli and heat, it means that you need to cook the meat through and through. However, pink meat isn't indicative of it being uncooked. As long as its internal temperature reached the height necessary to kill the parasite, you are good to go. Doesn't matter if it looks like it's just been killed and is blood red up in there. As long as it reached that temperature, it's fine.

'Cooking' is not to burn something to fucking shit-brown like it's been struck by lightning. Cooking is simply the method of killing the pathogens and parasites that might exist either on the surface of, or within the animal product that you're eating.
 
Most soaps aren't antibacterial. And although standard soap is more effective at removing bacteria than water, it isn't significantly more effective than with just water. The truth is that you're fine either way, as long as the 'rinse' is thorough. Equally, we all have antimicrobial lipids within our skin, and at the skin's surface.

I've learned a lot about microbiology and nutrition over the years, and at some point I also started washing my dishes with just water. I also no longer consume sugar of any sort; lots of protein and animal fats.
Sorry, but that's inaccurate. Soaps don't need to be actively antibacterial to be bactericidal, because that's inherent to how commercial soaps work. In the same way soaps are used to remove grease and lipids from dishes, they also have the same effect on the lipid bilayers of bacteria, effectively breaking them apart and allowing them to easily be cleaned off as well.

For water alone to be effective in disinfecting your dishes, you'd have to be using water that is at least at its boiling point. You'd still have the grease to contend with that you'd want to remove so any bacteria won't find a source of nutrients to grow on. By using just a little bit of soap, you'd not only get your dishes clean, but you'd also end up using less water and energy overall. Rinsing dishes with water and leaving it at that is not good hygiene.

And as you said, commensal bacteria can be opportunistic pathogens, so just because it is something that occurs normally within, say, the microbiome of your mouth or skin, that doesn't mean that it will not hurt you at a different site and/or at a different population size.

So, please, please, please; I beg of you. Don't put yourself and others at risk unnecessarily by merely rinsing your dishes with water and leaving it at that.
 
I wore my wife's undies to work one day, because all of mine were in the laundry. Besides she accidentally put them in my closet so it's not my fault!
 
Sorry, but that's inaccurate. Soaps don't need to be actively antibacterial to be bactericidal, because that's inherent to how commercial soaps work. In the same way soaps are used to remove grease and lipids from dishes, they also have the same effect on the lipid bilayers of bacteria, effectively breaking them apart and allowing them to easily be cleaned off as well.

Sorry but you are mistaken. Please outline the point in my post where I stated that soaps needed to be 'actively antibacterial' in order to be more effective than water to remove bacteria. In fact I stated that soap was more effective, just not significantly so (as opposed to a 'thorough' rinse).

The key word in this case was 'remove'. Standard soaps by their basic composition are not fundamentally disinfectants. With enough resistance, water alone is just as effective in the 'removal' of bacterial as standard soap. Hence my usage of the word 'thorough'.

Another aspect that you seem to be confusing, is the nurturing of bacteria through 'greece'. If by greece you mean oils, and by oils you mean fats, why is it that you haven't taken sugars into account? With respect, I don't believe you understand what you're talking about.
 
Sorry but you are mistaken. Please outline the point in my post where I stated that soaps needed to be 'actively antibacterial' in order to be more effective than water to remove bacteria. In fact I stated that soap was more effective, just not significantly so (as opposed to a 'thorough' rinse).
You implied it when you said that soap was not significantly more effective than water in removing or preventing bacteria, which is demonstrably false.
The key word in this case was 'remove'. Standard soaps by their basic composition are not fundamentally disinfectants. With enough resistance, water alone is just as effective in the 'removal' of bacterial as standard soap. Hence my usage of the word 'thorough'.
A basic understanding of how polar and nonpolar solutions interact would indicate why that may be a problem. We use emulsifiers like soap for a reason.
Another aspect that you seem to be confusing, is the nurturing of bacteria through 'greece'. If by greece you mean oils, and by oils you mean fats, why is it that you haven't taken sugars into account? With respect, I don't believe you understand what you're talking about.
I never said bacteria were nurtured by grease. While some bacteria can metabolize lipids, it's the nonpolar molecules that get stuck in the "grease" that are of concern, or things like moisture trapped underneath that can be conducive to bacterial growth. At a high enough sugar concentration, bacterial growth would be osmotically inhibited. I specifically didn't mention sugars because you emphasized your high fat and protein diet. (Not that that ensures that you aren't supplying glucose or lactose to bacteria.) You aren't likely to attract many extremophiles in your average environment, but again, why put yourself at an unnecessary risk? What benefit outweighs those risks?
 
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