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[Gravijah]

Right. But I'm behind on times haha. I have a laptop that I bought because it was cheap and basically as a storage device for all of my family pictures. Before that, I had a hand me down laptop and an e-machines handed down before that. I just got a smart phone. I'm not completely retarded in the area, I just don't rely on it like everyone else. But that'll change when everyone moves on to innerbrain net, I'll finally be savvy with the normal internets and PCs haha.

Hey, can I get your beeper number?

 

[dock]

It's disappointing to see people being called trolls for explaining why they prefer console gaming. It's okay for people to prefer what they enjoy, surely.

I would have imagined one of the largest areas of discrepancy is one of game genres. I love platform games, japanese games, and some jrpgs.... which simply aren't represented on the platform. It's great to see things like Street Fighter 4 getting ports, but those are still relatively few, and definitely something of an afterthought.

I'd really like to see the PC pick up with some of its interface issues, and I'm excited about the prospect of Steam's TV/controller based update.

Also, I'd really like to see Steam, Flash, or just Windows take the reins with regards to controller config and system specs. I was excited when I heard about Windows Vista system profiling. I'd love the idea of PC games saying they're designed for 'PC generation 3', but I realise this isn't simple.

 

[NullPointer]

Every PS+360+PC multiplat thread gets taken over by PC gamers talking about settings. They never discuss the actual game, just what the game looks like and how they achieved such a feat. Go look at the TDU2, Crysis 2, hell, any thread.

The Crysis 2 thread is like 100 pages of that shit.

The thing is though, if I had a capable PC I'd try my best to optimize settings as well. Its just in my nature. So sticking to the consoles keeps some of my obsessive drives in check.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

PS3 won't even open the gaf gaming forum.
Only specific threads if you have a direct link.

Umm... huh. What am I doing then? Does this mean my PS3 is on par with a PC? I kid. GAF works fine for me.

 

[rpmurphy]

Generally speaking, I only have an interest in upgrading my PC when I really need to, and gaming is a low priority on that list of reasons to upgrade.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

So after reading the last 12 pages it seems that the most common answer is still "because I'm ignorant".

 

[chixdiggit]

Its not possible from a practical standpoint in my situation. My PC is upstairs in my office and there's no way to route wires downstairs without going through some pain-in-the-ass drilling through walls and whatnot.

PCs are cheap if you know what you are doing. I have my media PC right next to my tv and a cheap bare bones in my office.

 

[SneakyStephan]

Umm... huh. What am I doing then? Does this mean my PS3 is on par with a PC? I kid. GAF works fine for me.

Weird, was messing about with the remote play function on my psp last week, and all I got when opening the gaming part of the gaf forum was a bunch of wingdings esque signs.

Other than that I haven't used the browser since I got my ps3 early 2008.

Spoiler

because it's trash

 

[Nafai1123]

After spending two weeks trying to build my new rig with a DOA motherboard AND GPU, I completely understand why people are hesitant to jump into pc gaming. Now that it's up and running though, I also completely understand why it's worth the effort.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

I used to be a PC gamer but somewhere along the line I realized the amount of hardware/software issues I always had made the experience more of a headache than fun. Compatibility, drivers, updates, crashes.. these are all common things that occur and usually through no fault of the user. I just bought a new laptop and out of the box it was already having issues with the kernel causing errors on shut down. Brand new and already needed a bios flash. So yeah..PCs..kinda suck..maybe I should try a Mac .

Unfortunately though nowadays consoles are PCs too, I've had a ton of issues with my PS3 as well (corrupted hard drives, etc) so the truth is any gadget is prone to failure.

My pc is new and I can't let it hibernate now. I don't know what is it about PCs and sleep/hibernate type modes. They almost always fail for me. I think the only PC I had that didn't end up failing after trying to wake it up is a vista laptop, but that thing has it's own cluster of problems.

 

[Gravijah]

My pc is new and I can't let it hibernate now. I don't know what is it about PCs and sleep/hibernate type modes. They almost always fail for me. I think the only PC I had that didn't end up failing after trying to wake it up is a vista laptop, but that thing has it's own cluster of problems.

Had a dream about FFXI and now your avatar...

No, I can't do it.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

For all the folks who say they have their PC connected to their main TV... how big is your house? I have my dedicated office on the second floor of my house and there is no way I could even connect my computers anywhere close to the TV.

 

[Seanspeed]

PCs are cheap if you know what you are doing. I have my media PC right next to my tv and a cheap bare bones in my office.

Can I build a decent gaming PC for less than $200? If not, then I'm not interested.

Besides, I CANNOT have a PC downstairs in my living room. I have a nice looking living space, and the only way to incorporate a PC would be to add some out-of-place desk somewhere and that will never happen. I dont care that much about PC gaming to ruin the aesthetics of my nice house to have it.

Give it up, guys. Its not gonna happen with me, and its not just me being stubborn.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

I'd really like to see the PC pick up with some of its interface issues, and I'm excited about the prospect of Steam's TV/controller based update.

What interface "issues"? What are you talking about?

This morning I'm playing The Witcher 2 with a gamepad. I just put it down, picked up my keyboard and alt-tabbed to my chrome instance to read GAF for a few minutes. The "issues" that you're talking about are only issues because you want a PC to behave exactly like a console, which I'm sorry to say is your hang-up. Most people actually enjoy the fact that the PC has software and peripherals for every single contingency rather than forcing people to use the same interface for everything.

After spending two weeks trying to build my new rig with a DOA motherboard AND GPU, I completely understand why people are hesitant to jump into pc gaming. Now that it's up and running though, I also completely understand why it's worth the effort.

Time is money. Pay a system-builder.

 

[Tom Penny]

Better graphics and controller > mouse for gaming.

 

[Danne-Danger]

Weird, was messing about with the remote play function on my psp last week, and all I got when opening the gaming part of the gaf forum was a bunch of wingdings esque signs.

Other than that I haven't used the browser since I got my ps3 early 2008.

Spoiler

because it's trash

It works for GAF, always has. They also seem to have fixed the issue that made the browser lock up your system 99% of the time (last time I used it a few months ago), so good on them!

 

[NIN90]

My issue lies in configuring for online play.

Why isn't this working? Oh, YOU need to open up your firewall so I can connect to your game? Ok, I'll wait... still nothing.. ok, you try to connect to me if I start the game. Well, Tony got in, but I don't see anyone else. Alright, well let me check the ports.. blah blah blah.

Stop playing lazy console ports with p2p?

 

[Snuggles]

Better graphics and controller > mouse for gaming.

OH WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THA...

oh wait you troll all the time, n/m

 

[Drkirby]

Well, Nintendo doesn't make PC games, and most of the Hand Held games are exclusive to handhelds. Plus, it is easier to finish a lengthy game on a handheld for me then on a computer.

Also, I can't get Ace Combat on the PC yet.

 

[ghibli99]

I've honestly never understood the divide. I've always gamed on whatever platform offered something I liked. From Atari to Apple to Nintendo to PC to Mac et al. I can't see myself simply not playing on something else just based on the platform. Our decisions, for the most part, should be software-driven, right?

 

[mokeyjoe]

- Cost. I'm broke.

- Carpal tunnel. I don't want it coming back, and controller support is a little flaky in my experience. I mainly mouse with my left hand these days and although I'm ok I'm not quick enough for action games.

- I don't really care about online gaming or better graphics.

- I rent nearly all my games.

- I play a lot of local multiplayer.

- There aren't many PC exclusives that interest me.

A bunch of reasons really. I'm not dead against PC gaming (it used to be my main system, years ago) but I've got access to more than enough games already and I don't really need another system for the few I don't. I'd be more likely to buy a PC specifically for music and recording TBH. If it plays Civ then that's a bonus.

Meanwhile I'm fine with my netbook. It even plays some games Terraria, Super Meat Boy, Plants vs Zombies, emulators.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

Had a dream about FFXI and now your avatar...

No, I can't do it.

Haha, I was in the process of thinking about going back, now that I have a gaming pc (played on ps2). Yeah it's not worth the time sink and lost life crack effect that can proc. Been looking for a PC game that plays like FFXI's bst and I'm surprised there's nothing like it.

 

[jon bones]

let's all just game and get along

 

[Uno Venova]

Just money, and I've played a couple PC games like Portal and don't find keyboards comfortable to use.

 

[Digital-Hero]

The cost and the lack of games that I want to play. For example, it doesn't appear that PC will get titles like Uncharted, Killzone, Gears of War 2, Dead Redemption or Halo: Reach.

I was a console and PC gamer until early this year.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Not sure why you're being defensive. You're not going to convince me to all of a sudden start gaming on a PC just because you're countering everything I said.

I haven't had a desktop in over 5 years, I have a lower end laptop that I use probably twice a month. I don't really care about computers in general. My PS3 is my main access to the internet and gaming.

I just happen to prefer a quick turn on and play gaming device that doesn't take an eternity to boot up and tell me this this this and that are available for updates, "Windows needs to restart: Now? Later?". You can tell me to get a better PC and I'll say "It's what keeps me from PC gaming". I can care less. I like my Sony exclusives anyway. Team Ico, Naughty Dog, Warhawk, Sony Santa Monica... All have provided me with gameplay that eclipses anything a super high-res version of a multi-platform game can offer.

Oh and napping is auto-corrected mapping heh.

I like my Sony exclusives, too. A lot. I don't necessarily think they "eclipse" anything else, necessarily, but I like them a lot!

A modern computer does not take an eternity to boot up. I'm up and in Windows within 30 seconds of turning my computer on. Windows update is not as intrusive as you are letting on. I just have it set to download stuff in the background and install updates when I shut down my computer. It's completely intrusive, and I don't even notice it.

I sure as hell notice when there is a PS3 firmware update, though. I can't even access their fucking store without spending 10 minutes downloading and installing a patch.

Anyway, you've already said you've made up your mind and you won't be budged. That's fine, enjoy browsing the Internet from your PS3. Just stop saying things that are factually incorrect.

 

[TheSeks]

Also, you can't do nude mods on console.

I found one for Dragon Age and you should see the massive dick my Elf has, I'm not even joking, it's huge.

ITT: We learn Snuggler really doesn't have a girlfriend after he gave her a "little" taste of the peen for Valentine's day and he compensates by being a size queen with a "big dick" in a shitty Bioware RPG.

The cost and the lack of games that I want to play. For example, it doesn't appear that PC will get titles like Uncharted, Killzone, Gears of War 2, Dead Redemption or Halo: Reach.

It will...

Spoiler

In 10 years when PC's can emulate it at a full frame rate

.

 

[Gravijah]

Haha, I was in the process of thinking about going back, now that I have a gaming pc (played on ps2). Yeah it's not worth the time sink and lost life crack effect that can proc. Been looking for a PC game that plays like FFXI's bst and I'm surprised there's nothing like it.

A single player FFXI that speeds things up and gives you NPCs to recruit into your party would be the best thing ever.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

For all the folks who say they have their PC connected to their main TV... how big is your house? I have my dedicated office on the second floor of my house and there is no way I could even connect my computers anywhere close to the TV.

It was your choice to make a "dedicated office" and decide that your PC is not allowed to leave said "dedicated office".

 

[Narag]

A single player FFXI that speeds things up and gives you NPCs to recruit into your party would be the best thing ever.

I've always wanted a single player Vana'diel experience. It's a shame more didn't get to see that world and some of the late game material.

 

[alphaNoid]

Nah, do you live in Canada or something? People were spewing that when SC2 was announced to be $60.

I guarantee you I paid $50 for Starcraft and Diablo II here in the states. I might of even got a gift card for like $5 when I bought Diablo II. I paid $80 for WoW because it was the collectors edition but it was definitely $50 and cheaper for the regular version! I distinctly remember Warcraft 3 being more expensive though, $60... because of that my friend and I found a website that was selling them for $50 on release day if you preordered. I'll be honest and tell you I don't know how much Warcraft II cost because I didn't buy it on release day but back then you were paying $80 for a SNES cartridge anyways - it was a different time (still, I think you might be mistaken on that or quoting very regional prices).

There are always exceptions but really, I'm not even defending any kind of argument here so theres no need to go too in depth. I am in the US and I specifically remember both buying Warcraft, Warcraft 2, 3 and Diablo 2 for $59. I will say since then, I started buying PC releases at Frys at launch for -$12 off. More recently I dont even buy Blizzard games, I get them free from one of the sr engineers.

But ... ya by and large PC games are cheaper. I was just making a silly point.

I game 75% of the time on my PC but LOVE my 360 because its a whole difference experience. Unga bunga come home, unga bunda open beer, unga bung fall on couch, power on 360, unga bunga press play. Consoles really are the 'true' plug and play gaming experience and PCs just honestly.. are not. 5 guys will quote me and try to convince me otherwise, wasted effort. I've been building PCs since the early 80s, and I manage infrastructure for a living.. I know damn well how much more complicated and time sinking a PC rig is over an unga bunga console.

The two are night and day. Steam makes things easier but that doesn't void the general experience of using a computer OS underneath it all, hardware complexities, drivers, updates, ini's, and the slew of other things every PC gamer here knows they deal with on a constant basis.

Like I said, PC gamer here first and foremost. But avid console gamer when the mood hits and acquiring my 360 was probably the single best gaming purchase in recent memory. Great compliment to my PC rig.

Unga Bunga

 

[scy]

For all the folks who say they have their PC connected to their main TV... how big is your house? I have my dedicated office on the second floor of my house and there is no way I could even connect my computers anywhere close to the TV.

My PC is just in the living room with the TV. That said, I'm also still young (24), single, and all that so it's easier for me to get away with doing it. I'm also planning on moving my computer to a less "open" area in the future so no more comfy couch PC gaming for me soon.

 

[Seanspeed]

It was your choice to make a "dedicated office" and decide that your PC is not allowed to leave said "dedicated office".

Yea? Some people use their PC's for more than just gaming and find it very convenient to have them in a dedicated office. Is that really news to some of you?

 

[Deleted member 17706]

The cost and the lack of games that I want to play. For example, it doesn't appear that PC will get titles like Uncharted, Killzone, Gears of War 2, Dead Redemption or Halo: Reach.

I was a console and PC gamer until early this year.

What? You chose 2011 to drop the PC as a gaming platform and dedicate yourself to 5+ year old consoles?

 

[Game Guru]

I've been a console gamer for a long time. However, I can tell you what I like about cconsoles and why I never really supported PCs in the past.

Basically, it came down to three things. First, Nintendo only makes console games, so I'll always have to buy a Nintendo system. Second, many of the genres I've preferred in the past were console exclusive like Platformers, JRPGs and Fighting games. Third, I've always preferred laptops for my computing instead of desktops, so I could never find a game that ran on my system.

However, a few years back I finally got into PC Gaming big time. What made me change my mind? Steam. Because of Steam and GoG.com, I can now buy games that can play on my laptop easily. I currently own 68 PC games, which is more than any other platform unless you combine my GameCube & Wii library or one counts each game in my compilations separately. Most of them are however older games. I've always been a big fan of classic games, and to finally get a chance to play some of PC's classics is great. However, I still play modern games on consoles, though.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Yea? Some people use their PC's for more than just gaming and find it very convenient to have them in a dedicated office. Is that really news to some of you?

Not news to me at all. Plenty of people do it. I'm just saying that he could put a PC somewhere outside of his dedicated office that he chose to build if he wanted to.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

*avatar quote*

Okay, you're an idiot that can't see why some people want all keyboard/controllers for a game. You can't seem to see that people have fun playing against others and not feeling that the other side is at a disadvantage.

Done talking to you. You're part of the reason why some of PC-GAF is mocked and why threads like this always pop up. Because PC-GAF can't seem to see that "customization" is a double-edged sword for fun for some people.

I think you;re the idiot who doesn't realize how silly it is to think there is a penalty in using one controller over another. I've met people whoa re no good with the mouse and are great with controller, or things like the novint falcon, but if you want to stay in your closed off little world, go right ahead.
keep making up the excuses you want, if you can't find enjoyment in playing games, maybe you shouldn't play to begin with. the otehr guy beats you he beat you. nobody has to apologize to anyone what controller they use and how, there is no such thing as a level playing field.
I spent however much I want on my PC and or console, now I have to come down to your level so you can feel ghood about yourself? what a joke.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

These threads make me a little sad really. Us PC gamers, paragons of awesome that we are, do our best to help you guys and you won't let us. You're like babes in the woods, and every time we offer you our hands so that we may lead you to safety you look at us like we want to rape you.

 

[Roto13]

Not news to me at all. Plenty of people do it. I'm just saying that he could put a PC somewhere outside of his dedicated office that he chose to build if he wanted to.

It might be more important for him to have a PC in his office than in his living room.

 

[Snuggles]

You're like babes in the woods, and every time we offer you our hands so that we may lead you to safety you look at us like we want to rape you.

well, some of them are so used to being abused that they don't know who to trust anymore, you can't really blame em

 

[mkenyon]

So after reading the last 12 pages it seems that the most common answer is still "because I'm ignorant".

Where you really expecting anything else?

masterrace.jpeg

 

[Seanspeed]

Not news to me at all. Plenty of people do it. I'm just saying that he could put a PC somewhere outside of his dedicated office that he chose to build if he wanted to.

He's obviously answering the OP's question from a practicality standpoint, not stating any lack of desire. Its a perfectly valid response, and one that I identify with 100%.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

It might be more important for him to have a PC in his office than in his living room.

And that is completely fine! If that's his choice, that's his choice. It is not, however, a legitimate 'complaint' about the PC platform.

 

[Angst]

The Crysis 2 thread is like 100 pages of that shit.

The thing is though, if I had a capable PC I'd try my best to optimize settings as well. Its just in my nature. So sticking to the consoles keeps some of my obsessive drives in check.

Same here. The number of hours spent trying to optimize Oblivion is probably on par with my gameplay hours. Maybe not quite, but pretty close

 

[Seanspeed]

And that is completely fine! If that's his choice, that's his choice. It is not, however, a legitimate 'complaint' about the PC platform.

Sure it is. PC's aren't as 'entertainment center/living room' friendly as a console.

 

[Nafai1123]

Time is money. Pay a system-builder.

Hiring a system builder won't help when you get faulty parts and won't make the replacement process any faster.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Sure it is. PC's aren't as 'entertainment center/living room' friendly as a console.

They can be if you want them to be. That's the thing. Personal Computer. You make it your own and make it do what you want it to do.

 

[TheExodu5]

I use Macs in my professional and personal life, so I would have to keep a second tower just to play PC games.

Macs can play PC games.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

well, some of them are so used to being abused that they don't know who to trust anymore, you can't really blame em

I hear that the American Institute of Psychologists is pushing to have console-gaming added to the list of known causes of Stockholm Syndrome.

Hiring a system builder won't help when you get faulty parts and won't make the replacement process any faster.

No I mean if you're not highly experienced in building a system then pay a system builder for parts and labour. You actually don't save enough on buying parts from all over the internet to make the hassle worth it imo. And you get a single warranty from most of them too which makes getting service a breeze.

 

[Gravijah]

And that is completely fine! If that's his choice, that's his choice. It is not, however, a legitimate 'complaint' about the PC platform.

Complaints when it comes to stuff like this are really subjective.