Salacious Crumb
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The_Technomancer said:
Not in my experience, I have 340 games on steam and the only time I fiddle around with config files is to change the resolution/aspect ratio/FOV in older games that don't support 1080P natively.
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Not in my experience, I have 340 games on steam and the only time I fiddle around with config files is to change the resolution/aspect ratio/FOV in older games that don't support 1080P natively.
As a former console-only gamer who in recent times has embraced PC gaming as my RRoD issues and my 360 warranty expiring led me to explore an alternative, I can say that my only regret is not having switched to PC gaming sooner.
I used to once buy into all the most common excuses as to why I only played console games, seeing as how I didn't think to run a simple HDMI cable out of the back of the PC, or I thought that you needed a $2000 machine to play games, or that it was a hassle to get games to run and the list went on. I bought into all of it.
But when I finally gave up on the 360 and decided to build a modern PC and began dabbling with Steam and PC gaming I found most of my opinions on the matter were either really overblown or just flat out wrong. For example, I don't know crap about computer boards and whatnot, but even I was able to install a new GPU by myself, without a guide, and all it took was removing one screw for the plate on the outside of the case, plugging the board connectors into the easily identifiable slot on the board and plugging an easily identifiable cord from the power supply to the card. Not hard at all. My tech knowledge on PC components is literally zero.
As for cost, the expense of PC gaming is all up to you. One of my friends is running a $350 pre-built PC that has integrated graphics and he's able to run 360/PS3 level games with superior framerates. So yeah, those of us who built something capable of running Crysis 2 and Witcher 2 on high spend more, but we make that decision ourselves and it's totally not necessary to spend that much. I don't need 12GB RAM or an i7 quad core to run my games, I just bought them because I could.
I do see where people are coming from on games selection though, as I split my time pretty evenly between the PC and the PS3. I play alot of fighting games and "stylish action" (DMC, Ninja Gaiden etc) and these games just either don't see PC releases at all or that version is garbage, and even if the PC version was acceptable most of those communities embrace consoles anyways.
But of course, how many people on this site really game on only platform anyways? I think most people recognize that there's no one end-all, be-all system and to experience the wide variety of gaming this generation you have to use more than one platform anyways. JRPG+handheld has become synonymous this gen, console maker first party studios have produced some real gems like Mario Galaxy or Uncharted and the era of multiplatform gaming ha opened alot of formerly Sony-only customers to exploring other brands whether it's Xbox or PC.
So with that in mind I encourage others, especially some of the commenters I read on the first pages of the thread (haven't read beyond that, dunno if the tone or discussion has changed radically as of late), to maybe allow themselves to dabble with PC gaming a bit and see if your opinions are as valid as you thought, because I found alot of the so-called problems of PC gaming were equivalent to imaginary boogeymen or it was making a big deal out of nothing.
I used to once buy into all the most common excuses as to why I only played console games, seeing as how I didn't think to run a simple HDMI cable out of the back of the PC, or I thought that you needed a $2000 machine to play games, or that it was a hassle to get games to run and the list went on. I bought into all of it.
But when I finally gave up on the 360 and decided to build a modern PC and began dabbling with Steam and PC gaming I found most of my opinions on the matter were either really overblown or just flat out wrong. For example, I don't know crap about computer boards and whatnot, but even I was able to install a new GPU by myself, without a guide, and all it took was removing one screw for the plate on the outside of the case, plugging the board connectors into the easily identifiable slot on the board and plugging an easily identifiable cord from the power supply to the card. Not hard at all. My tech knowledge on PC components is literally zero.
As for cost, the expense of PC gaming is all up to you. One of my friends is running a $350 pre-built PC that has integrated graphics and he's able to run 360/PS3 level games with superior framerates. So yeah, those of us who built something capable of running Crysis 2 and Witcher 2 on high spend more, but we make that decision ourselves and it's totally not necessary to spend that much. I don't need 12GB RAM or an i7 quad core to run my games, I just bought them because I could.
I do see where people are coming from on games selection though, as I split my time pretty evenly between the PC and the PS3. I play alot of fighting games and "stylish action" (DMC, Ninja Gaiden etc) and these games just either don't see PC releases at all or that version is garbage, and even if the PC version was acceptable most of those communities embrace consoles anyways.
But of course, how many people on this site really game on only platform anyways? I think most people recognize that there's no one end-all, be-all system and to experience the wide variety of gaming this generation you have to use more than one platform anyways. JRPG+handheld has become synonymous this gen, console maker first party studios have produced some real gems like Mario Galaxy or Uncharted and the era of multiplatform gaming ha opened alot of formerly Sony-only customers to exploring other brands whether it's Xbox or PC.
So with that in mind I encourage others, especially some of the commenters I read on the first pages of the thread (haven't read beyond that, dunno if the tone or discussion has changed radically as of late), to maybe allow themselves to dabble with PC gaming a bit and see if your opinions are as valid as you thought, because I found alot of the so-called problems of PC gaming were equivalent to imaginary boogeymen or it was making a big deal out of nothing.
Salacious Crumb said:
I think he's talking about his own personal experience but yeah, I've never heard of it not working on Windows 7.
Just about the only thing I can't get to work in Windows 7 anymore is extremely old hardware drivers.
Narcosis said:
This is a great post, but the problem is not everyone is going to have access to a gaming PC. When they can't try it out for themselves, the misinformation they've read about PC gaming seems to multiply in their heads to the point where they are almost brainwashed and will never give it a fair shake.
I'm still a PC gamer but I can completely understand why people do not want to deal with PC.
Configuration:
My least favorite thing. I don't want to spend time adjusting all my settings and fine tuning. I want to plug and play. Sure most games use auto-detect and it sucks because I still have to go in there and manually set things to the secret extra high settings for some stupid reason.
Installs
Useful for quick play from your library, not useful for new games.
Hardware:
Keeping up with PC hardware is exhausting. Some people love it, others can't deal with all the little things (did you apply thermal paste in the optimal way?). It's really no wonder people buy pre-builts because making sure everything jives and you're not somehow screwing stuff up on your big purchase is hard. PC-Gaf is a great help but they can only get you so far and opinions are always conflicting.
Exclusives
PC exclusives are pretty much Blizzard. Definitely not to be missed but they only release games every 2 years. There's a lot more going on on consoles. The rest are ports and while they might be more configurable on PC I can't say you'd really miss much playing on a console.
DRM
Console DRM is built into the system, PC DRM is usually an intrusive client or background process. Also things like upgrades and forgetting to unregister can really screw stuff up. Consoles don't really have this problem yet (but they are getting there with DD).
Value
I'd buy a console over a PC for $300. It'll go a lot further. You want to comfortable you're probably spending $500-600. You want your official PC master-race ID card with 1080p and 60FPS you'll be dropping at least a grand.
The peripherals suck
Like it not games are going toward motion and cameras. PC doesn't really support it. You can do some dirty hacking and get some console controllers to work but it's a pain-in-the-ass. Maybe in a couple years Kinect might make this front look a bit better.
Don't always work
I bought Crysis on steam last fall for a ridiculous price. Somewhere about 10 minutes in it gets an aneurysm and crashes. I've looked for answers but never found anything that worked (reboot and update drivers hurr). I guess I can't play it.
Nobody owns desktops anymore
They all have laptops. Some have transitioned to netbook only (Impressive willpower) and we're moving on to tablets. To game on one of those you pretty much are buying an expensive console and to this day I think the gaming laptop is the dumbest idea ever because a 17in 20 pound behemoth isn't portable and you just payed twice as much as you would for the desk version.
Certainly people should see it as an option because there's a lot of cool stuff you can do on PC. Steam is awesome and you can get a little extra mileage out of some games. It also doesn't hurt your productivity to invest in one. You just have to deal with the bullshit. Right now I'm gaming in 1600x2560 which is pretty awesome and consoles can't match that. Wasn't cheap though.
Configuration:
My least favorite thing. I don't want to spend time adjusting all my settings and fine tuning. I want to plug and play. Sure most games use auto-detect and it sucks because I still have to go in there and manually set things to the secret extra high settings for some stupid reason.
Installs
Useful for quick play from your library, not useful for new games.
Hardware:
Keeping up with PC hardware is exhausting. Some people love it, others can't deal with all the little things (did you apply thermal paste in the optimal way?). It's really no wonder people buy pre-builts because making sure everything jives and you're not somehow screwing stuff up on your big purchase is hard. PC-Gaf is a great help but they can only get you so far and opinions are always conflicting.
Exclusives
PC exclusives are pretty much Blizzard. Definitely not to be missed but they only release games every 2 years. There's a lot more going on on consoles. The rest are ports and while they might be more configurable on PC I can't say you'd really miss much playing on a console.
DRM
Console DRM is built into the system, PC DRM is usually an intrusive client or background process. Also things like upgrades and forgetting to unregister can really screw stuff up. Consoles don't really have this problem yet (but they are getting there with DD).
Value
I'd buy a console over a PC for $300. It'll go a lot further. You want to comfortable you're probably spending $500-600. You want your official PC master-race ID card with 1080p and 60FPS you'll be dropping at least a grand.
The peripherals suck
Like it not games are going toward motion and cameras. PC doesn't really support it. You can do some dirty hacking and get some console controllers to work but it's a pain-in-the-ass. Maybe in a couple years Kinect might make this front look a bit better.
Don't always work
I bought Crysis on steam last fall for a ridiculous price. Somewhere about 10 minutes in it gets an aneurysm and crashes. I've looked for answers but never found anything that worked (reboot and update drivers hurr). I guess I can't play it.
Nobody owns desktops anymore
They all have laptops. Some have transitioned to netbook only (Impressive willpower) and we're moving on to tablets. To game on one of those you pretty much are buying an expensive console and to this day I think the gaming laptop is the dumbest idea ever because a 17in 20 pound behemoth isn't portable and you just payed twice as much as you would for the desk version.
Certainly people should see it as an option because there's a lot of cool stuff you can do on PC. Steam is awesome and you can get a little extra mileage out of some games. It also doesn't hurt your productivity to invest in one. You just have to deal with the bullshit. Right now I'm gaming in 1600x2560 which is pretty awesome and consoles can't match that. Wasn't cheap though.
Somnid said:
List of PC exclusive titles to come out just on Steam since March 1 (list wars, derp):
Dawn of War II: Retribution
Rift
Dinner Date
NightSky
SpaceChem
Atom Zombie Smasher
Total War: Shogun 2
Revenge of the Titans
1...2...3...Kick It!
Dino D Day
Sanctum
IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover
The Next BIG Thing
Runaway: A Twist of Fate
Cargo - The Quest for Gravity
Darkspore
Capsized
Universe Sandbox
Mount and Blade: With Fire and Sword
Dwarfs?!
Garshap: The Monster Slayer
Inside a Star-Filled Sky
Terraria
The Witcher 2
And that's not including games that aren't on Steam such as Avadon: The Black Fortress and F2P titles such as Spiral Knights.
I'm not saying all, or even most, of the games on that list are good, but to imply that the only PC exclusives are Blizzard titles is naive.
Rahxephon91
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Yes because the "ease if use" issue is a mysterious problemRyuuga said:
the truth is, some people lack the sense of adventure required to truly realize what pc gaming can do for them and the true grit required to follow it through.
it has always been the pioneering spearhead of the medium. sure, sometimes the road is bumpy, the wagon uncomfortable and your clothes are all stained with axle grease; but no-one should spend their entire gaming lives huddled up behind the safety of proprietary city walls - the wealth of possibilities that the road opens up to you are simply astounding.
i know the default response: "i gots my uncharted, my halo, my mario - i'm happy here". of course you're happy, you're living in a controlled eco-system. a place where all your aspirations and desires are generated, monitored and fulfilled by the dictatorial authority that drove us pc gamers away. the authority of the mass market.
if you are satisfied behind your walls, understand this; your tastes are by definition, the average. if a critical mass of enough people enjoy something, the chances are, you'll enjoy it too. a place of sedentary comfort is certainly enough for some, but this place isn't for the some, this is a videogame forum. we all found our way here in an attempt to get something more out of the games we play.
nowadays the carts come with air-conditioning, the roads are sign posted, there's a little chef every 500 yards and we have a better version of almost everything that kept you at home, the same prescribed experiences but without the enforced homogenization of the one-size-fits-all model.
the new horizons of pc gaming are becoming legend around these parts as open hardware genuinely is the key to experiencing "gaming" as a whole, not just a segment of video game entertainment selected by popular appeal to be served up and spit polished for the mass market. if this is something you have long realized; yet you still don't feel the urge to wrap your belongings up in a bindle and buy a new pair of walking boots? well, i guess you should put the kettle on, sit back, push start and enjoy the quiet life.
leave it to those with true grit and a due sense of adventure.
it has always been the pioneering spearhead of the medium. sure, sometimes the road is bumpy, the wagon uncomfortable and your clothes are all stained with axle grease; but no-one should spend their entire gaming lives huddled up behind the safety of proprietary city walls - the wealth of possibilities that the road opens up to you are simply astounding.
i know the default response: "i gots my uncharted, my halo, my mario - i'm happy here". of course you're happy, you're living in a controlled eco-system. a place where all your aspirations and desires are generated, monitored and fulfilled by the dictatorial authority that drove us pc gamers away. the authority of the mass market.
if you are satisfied behind your walls, understand this; your tastes are by definition, the average. if a critical mass of enough people enjoy something, the chances are, you'll enjoy it too. a place of sedentary comfort is certainly enough for some, but this place isn't for the some, this is a videogame forum. we all found our way here in an attempt to get something more out of the games we play.
nowadays the carts come with air-conditioning, the roads are sign posted, there's a little chef every 500 yards and we have a better version of almost everything that kept you at home, the same prescribed experiences but without the enforced homogenization of the one-size-fits-all model.
the new horizons of pc gaming are becoming legend around these parts as open hardware genuinely is the key to experiencing "gaming" as a whole, not just a segment of video game entertainment selected by popular appeal to be served up and spit polished for the mass market. if this is something you have long realized; yet you still don't feel the urge to wrap your belongings up in a bindle and buy a new pair of walking boots? well, i guess you should put the kettle on, sit back, push start and enjoy the quiet life.
leave it to those with true grit and a due sense of adventure.
It is very simple.
On consoles, it is the prerogative of the developer to make sure that games run well on the platform.
On the PC, it is the prerogative of the paying customers to make sure the games run well on their system.
Easy choice for most people. Though to make it clear, I am not a console exclusive gamer.
On consoles, it is the prerogative of the developer to make sure that games run well on the platform.
On the PC, it is the prerogative of the paying customers to make sure the games run well on their system.
Easy choice for most people. Though to make it clear, I am not a console exclusive gamer.
All my friends are on XBox live
360 controller > mouse and keyboard
Every game runs as they are meant to
comfy couch
HDTV
Achievements
The bolded is the biggest part for me. I love that any game I play on my 360, I know I'm playing it as it's meant to be played. If your PC has been aging it a bit, you might not be able to run it properly. Hell my PC is only a couple years old, and it can barely play Crysis on low settings.
360 controller > mouse and keyboard
Every game runs as they are meant to
comfy couch
HDTV
Achievements
The bolded is the biggest part for me. I love that any game I play on my 360, I know I'm playing it as it's meant to be played. If your PC has been aging it a bit, you might not be able to run it properly. Hell my PC is only a couple years old, and it can barely play Crysis on low settings.
Skenzin said:
Except, I game using my 360 pad just fine on my La Z Boy. I have a desk setup behind me for when I have games that require KB/M, and in front of the desk are the 2 La Z Boys for when I have a PC game that supports gamepad (as well as my TV that I also play PS3/360 games on). One port on my video card goes HDMI out to my home theater receiver, and a DVI port goes to my LCD monitor.
I realize this kind of setup doesn't work for everybody, but playing PC games on my home theater setup is glorious.
Grinchy said:
Haha, no, it's all good. I bought a Coolermaster 212+ heatsink/fan combo, and it is fantastic and makes overclocking brainless. You really have to be pushing it or have a case with inadequate ventilation for that combo not to sufficiently cool your overclock. I'm running an i5-760 (2.8 ghz stock) at 3.9 and it doesn't even break a sweat. I've pushed it up to 4.3 for the fun of it, but I really wasn't seeing that great of gains to make it worth pushing the voltage over where I felt it was safe.
That Coolermaster works with both AMD and Intel CPUs, btw, so it will probably work for not just your current CPU, but the next one or two. It's fairly easy to install, and I am not handy at all with this stuff.
Gully State
Member
Wrong... Developers make concessions to get their software to run on console. Lower framerate/lower resolution/aliasing etc are compromises they make, not part of their ideal design.whitehawk said:
Somnid said:
I think you're being dishonest.
Ruinic Games, Paradox (who's games I look forward to a lot more than blizzard's), Civ, Quake Live, everything on GoG, a huge number of indie titles, Minecraft, ArmA The Sims, Spore, just about every MMO from Aion to TOR, and on and on and on. You, sir, are no PC Gamer.
mkenyon said:
Runic makes console games
Civ Revolution console game
Quake, and modern Quake is on consoles
Huge Indie scene on XBLA
Minecraft clone on XBLA
The Sims all over consoles
Spore series on consoles/handhelds
MMOs are on consoles as well.
Next time you want to call someone out, make sure you get your facts straight.
I'm a PC gamers as well
Also this thread has officially turned into list wars. MODs should close it, there is no good discussion to be had any longer.
alphaNoid said:
They were pretty much all PC exclusives.
The series? Not necessarily. But the main titles in the series are.
You going to say Civilization V is not exclusive because Civilization Revolution is on the consoles?
The PC has a massive amount of exclusives...probably more than any of the consoles. Just because most people here see fit to ignore them, or only focus on AAA releases...well that's their loss.
TheExodu5 said:
I actually played the FEAR demo on the 360 last night and to sprint you have to hold down the left stick while pressing it forward. I don't mind clicking the analog sticks, but holding them down while also pointing them in a direction sucks. So I'll grab FEAR 2 on the PC when it's cheap (I know it's not supposed to be great, but I like slow-mo in shooters.)
elrechazado
Banned
Since you've changed your argument to "what people prefer", rather than "what people are familiar with and know how to use already", I'm not sure what the point of responding to you is.beast786 said:
Look I'm PC gamer, but he was wrong. Read what he wrote...TheExodu5 said:
mkenyon said:
1. Runic games? Sorry they make console games
2. Paradox? PC
3. Civ? Which? Because Civ is on consoles
4. Quake Live? Quake Arena and several other Quake titles are on consoles
5. Huge number of Indie? Thats neat, theres a huge number of indie on consoles.
6. Minecraft? PC exclusive, but FortressCraft on XBLA
7. ARMA? PC
8. Sims? All over consoles
9. Spore? PC, but the series is on consoles/handhelds
10. MMO? Nope on consoles now, sorry.
Of the 10 he tried to call someone out on, 2 are PC exclusives. Sorry.
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darkpaladinmfc
Member
Haha especially at bolded.alphaNoid said:
The greatness of PC is that there are no regulations in place telling you what will be popular. Minecraft blew up. Terraria is now in the process of doing the same. Magicka is a huge success. Torchlight would have probably never come to 360 had it not become a huge success on PC. When you get to consoles the only thing which can be popular are the hand picked chosen ones each manufacture allow on their platforms.
You know, as a console gamer and a PC gamer, I've actually asked myself why I didn't go console-only, and I'd say that the only thing keeping me from going console-only is the fact that I can't play certain types of games very well without a mouse and keyboard. I honestly wish Valve would make a console, because Valve has a better understanding of a gaming community than Microsoft does from my experience, and Valve isn't stupid enough to leave out keyboard and mouse support. People who prefer dual analogs can keep their dual analogs, but I just can't make that transition.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Ok, I have a challenge for the Master race. Since everyone is talking about how great the Witcher 2 is and how glorious it is to run in high settings... build me a PC and tell me the cost of the system that can run the Witcher in 1080p and 60 fps.
I currently have an older MacBook so the system will need to be built from scratch including the OS. Since I will always be a Mac user, this PC will be used for gaming *only* and nothing else so no need for antivirus stuff. I will use my TV for a monitor but will need a wireless keyboard and mouse. Also, since this will sit in my TV room so far away from the router, it will need to have a wireless card as well just like my three home consoles.
I'm interested to see what the final cost is and if affordable, I may end up buying it.
I currently have an older MacBook so the system will need to be built from scratch including the OS. Since I will always be a Mac user, this PC will be used for gaming *only* and nothing else so no need for antivirus stuff. I will use my TV for a monitor but will need a wireless keyboard and mouse. Also, since this will sit in my TV room so far away from the router, it will need to have a wireless card as well just like my three home consoles.
I'm interested to see what the final cost is and if affordable, I may end up buying it.
Secks4Food
Member
alphaNoid said:
You honestly believe that, don't you. Almost sad, in a way.
While you wrote this in a very elitist way, the general point I agree with, PC Gaming is a hassle. And I've done it in the past so I'm not just speaking from a baseless perspective.ghst said:
Parts degrade and need replacing. Also, due to the scalable nature of PC hardware games require optimization to run efficiently and to their maximum. Finally unless you pay a large premium when constructing your PC it will overtime degrade in its ability to play games at the original benchmark you built it to. 5 years on my 360 is performing to the same capacity as it did when I bought it, and I'll be playing Battlefield 3 in November to the same standard as millions of other 360 owners.
For people who have the money, time and effort to get down and dirty with all this technology and tweaking, great, but for many people they just want to play games. I don't want to worry that I could be getting a better experience with my current setup if I spent an hour clawing the internet for mods and file tweaks.
OldJadedGamer said:
The real reason behind your post is pretty thinly veiled, but:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417014
There you go. Ask away.
elrechazado
Banned
take the 600 dollar damn good build and you can cut off 100 bucks with better parts today than you could at that time. The deals on some good ati cards lately for 40-50 bucks are amazing, as are ram prices.Ysiadmihi said:
I built a PC in 2005 that could play Battlefield 2 at Medium to High. By 2008 after 3 years of BF2, Special Forces and CSS my PC was an absolute mess. I had to play BF2 on Medium to Low and eventually just migrated over to CSS because of it being less intensive. Put me off building another PC, and I still haven't to this day. It's like my money just falls down the drain, whereas my 360 will always be able to play the newest releases to a playable standard.Ikuu said:
I do my gaming on a Wii and moderately powered laptop. I get to play all the Nintendo exclusives, plus most of the good stuff from the HD consoles at a much cheaper price. Since HD graphics and whizzbang effects don't interest me in the slightest, turning down the settings on newer games isn't a problem for me, so haven't felt the need to keep upgrading. Frankly, it's a pretty perfect gaming setup as far as I'm concerned.
elrechazado
Banned
I don't even know what this means....do you think the electronic components in PC's somehow degrade over time, resulting in lower settings on your games, in a way that the same electronic components don't do in consoles?Arnie said:
This is the kind of garbage misinformation that drives PC gamers crazy because it's nonsense.
What really happened is that all of the spyware you got from torrents and porn and the glory of the internet slowed your computer down, because this has nothing to do with your hardware "wearing out".
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
nvm
- i don't want to be involved in all this.
Forearm Star
Member
It's probably been said before, but cost is really what does it
Mortrialus
Banned
Well truthfully I'm not console, there are a number of games I have played and enjoyed on PC, but the number is negligible to the point where I can count them on my hands. I did grow up playing consoles as a kid, and during my teen years I played a lot of World of Warcraft and quite possibly the only thing keeping me from getting into other PC games was a lack of a powerful enough PC.
At this point, despite owning a powerful enough PC, I still rarely play PC games. The last one I particularly enjoyed was Minecraft. The primary reason is because at this point, my favorite genres are basically almost nonexistent on the PC. I've always generally preferred 3D, Third Person action-adventure games, as well as 3D third-person action games including platformers.
Examples:
3D Third Person Action Adventure
3D Zelda games,
The Soul Reaver games,
Shenmue,
Okami
Beyond Good And Evil
Subgenre: 3D Third Person Action-Rpg
Demon's Souls
NieR
3D Third-Person Action Games
God Hand
Devil May Cry
No More Heroes
Jet Set Radio
3D Third-Person Platform Games
Super Mario Galaxy 1&2
Jet Set Radio Future
Rayman 2
Psychonauts
Sonic Adventure
As I mentioned, excluding ports these genres are basically nonexistent on the PC. The only particular examples I could find are the Witcher games, which are action-RPG games. That is pretty barren. I have been know to try games from genres that aren't my particular favorites, but the reason I still favor consoles is simply because PC developers aren't providing me with my preferred type of games. Its simple as that.
At this point, despite owning a powerful enough PC, I still rarely play PC games. The last one I particularly enjoyed was Minecraft. The primary reason is because at this point, my favorite genres are basically almost nonexistent on the PC. I've always generally preferred 3D, Third Person action-adventure games, as well as 3D third-person action games including platformers.
Examples:
3D Third Person Action Adventure
3D Zelda games,
The Soul Reaver games,
Shenmue,
Okami
Beyond Good And Evil
Subgenre: 3D Third Person Action-Rpg
Demon's Souls
NieR
3D Third-Person Action Games
God Hand
Devil May Cry
No More Heroes
Jet Set Radio
3D Third-Person Platform Games
Super Mario Galaxy 1&2
Jet Set Radio Future
Rayman 2
Psychonauts
Sonic Adventure
As I mentioned, excluding ports these genres are basically nonexistent on the PC. The only particular examples I could find are the Witcher games, which are action-RPG games. That is pretty barren. I have been know to try games from genres that aren't my particular favorites, but the reason I still favor consoles is simply because PC developers aren't providing me with my preferred type of games. Its simple as that.
To be honest, it's not the cause that I'm bothered about, it's the end result. Irrelevant of whatever caused the degradation in performance I was left with a machine that wasn't able to perform to the same standard as the day I built it. Not only that but by 2008 it was well behind the benchmark that I'd set it for new releases (medium - high) and as such I felt like it's worth had degraded.Ikuu said:
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