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Console only gamers, what keeps you from PC Gaming?
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bangai-o said:
Because had you actually taken the time to read the OP, you would have never posted it. Instead you made a knee-jerk reactionary post because the thread title offended you.
bangai-o said:
Yet you read and post in it. Furthermore, you have taken a side (I haven't seen you once call out console gamers for saying blatantly false crap like a $500 video card is a necessity).
Admit the idea of PC gaming makes you uncomfortable for whatever reason and move on.
WEGGLES said:
Well, one can also run PC games without even opening configuration menu and some games (that doesn't have auto-configuration) will either look shitty or will run with shitty performance. So if one is content with this on consoles, I don't see why PC should be different
bangai-o said:
Do you do anything but whine? Seriously, it's insufferable.
Sure, there are a few bad apples on both sides, but overall it's a fun discussion. If you're bothered by other people's opinions, try refuting them instead of whining like a child because you don't like what they're saying.
I hate Windows, i hate using windows and its GUI i hate everything about it.
If there were more games for Osx i would gladly abandon console gaming. But for me Windows is such a piece of shit that i would never ever touch to it. Its worse than using PS3 OS or any otehr console OS. That's why i dont like playing games on pc. Updating shit every time, virus alerts firewall alerts running exe alerts codec problems , crashing games, tons of shit running at the background. I hate the OS of PC!
IF there was a basic verison of Windows which is just for playing games and u can shoose to boot that version of OS when you turn on the pc. Or let's say if Steam was an OS that u could boot it up and just play games on it that would be fine.
If there were more games for Osx i would gladly abandon console gaming. But for me Windows is such a piece of shit that i would never ever touch to it. Its worse than using PS3 OS or any otehr console OS. That's why i dont like playing games on pc. Updating shit every time, virus alerts firewall alerts running exe alerts codec problems , crashing games, tons of shit running at the background. I hate the OS of PC!
IF there was a basic verison of Windows which is just for playing games and u can shoose to boot that version of OS when you turn on the pc. Or let's say if Steam was an OS that u could boot it up and just play games on it that would be fine.
PetriP-TNT
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I pretty much dropped out because I've been using the same PC since 2003
Hahaha, what is this argument? That shit takes years upon years, miles upon miles, to even warrant a replacement. I have an old Falcon road bike from over 20 years ago and I JUST now have to replace the tires on that sucker after one blew out.elrechazao said:
PC gaming doesn't require constant maintenance. Hardware purchased around the time the consoles came out would probably still play you PC games at equivalent console settings. If you wanted to upgrade, you have the option. So that's nice for PC gaming.
Thanks to console gaming retarding graphical advancement on multiplatform titles, you have to replace your console with about the same frequency as you would replace PC hardware. Probably less frequently since the build quality this generation is substandard.
It's just not really worth arguing with this opinion. It's just too frustrating.
xxracerxx said:
Thanks to console gaming retarding graphical advancement on multiplatform titles, you have to replace your console with about the same frequency as you would replace PC hardware. Probably less frequently since the build quality this generation is substandard.
whitehead said:
It's just not really worth arguing with this opinion. It's just too frustrating.
elrechazado
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Reading the preceding conversation would be incredibly helpful. As would turning on a sarcasm detector.xxracerxx said:
I can only reach conclusions based on what you have actually written. And when you write that PC hardware somehow magically degrades over time, and that this is a hardware issue...well, I can only come to certain conclusions. It's not my fault you posted what you did. If you're now embarrassed by that or feel insulted because your incorrect point was recognized, I really can't help that.Arnie said:
That is true, I suppose you can survive on 6 year old PC parts. But you have to realize I haven't been a "current" PC gamer in over 10 years so I just remember the days of having to update my computer every two years if I wanted to keep up with my friends.Y2Kev said:
True, I jumped the gun. I just found the statement funny and wanted to comment on it.elrechazao said:
Eccocid said:
I installed Microsoft Security Essentials and then clicked the "autoupdate" button in Windows 7. It's all automated. Nothing ever crashes, no matter how hard I make it try. Codecs have nothing to do with games (though K-Lite or Windows 7 Codecs packages ivalidate your argument), and Win 7 plays most things out of the box. Exe alerts? No modern games require administrator mode. Your arguments either come from 2001-era XP, or pre-SP1 Vista. None of which are valid anymore.
FYI, the Xbox OS was running on a Windows kernel.
The Albatross
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I used to be a PC gamer, but:
1) The majority of my friends are console gamers now, like I am, and many of us were PC gamers -- or at least had PCs as well. THe #1 benefit to us on PC was playing online, but really, X-Box Live does that better for us now than the PC and a bunch of apps and programs ever did.
2) Price, which also matters for many of my friends. Most of us used to have new PCs, but now, most of us use laptops and tablets for regular computer use.. like using Facebook and stuff, and so our desktop PCs are dated an dless used. I use my desktop for work, but even then, I still do a lot of work on my less powered laptop.
3) The necessity to upgrade. When I do play PC games, I play games from 5+ years ago, or games with lower demands... Sure, I could probably get better graphics, etc., but it's a pain for me.
4) The hassle of playing PC games, and this may not be the case anymore, but for quite a while, when the latest generation of consoles game out... all I needed to do was put in a disc and the game loaded and I was playing. NO worries about "will my system handle it," or "I wonder if I can tweek this config to get better settings," or "nuts, I'm running at only 25 FPS while my friends are all running at 60fps.. and they have an advantage, etc." I know that the experience is the same for me and pretty much everybody else.
Now, some of these may be myths... But right now, I don't need a reason to stay from PC gaming, I need a reason to come back to PC gaming, and there isn't a compelling one for me. The biggest one, though, is #1... the social component that is so expertly built into my 360 and my close group of friends. The 360 has been cheap enough for a few years now that all of my guy friends have one, and so whenever a big multuplayer game comes out like CoD, or even the multiplayer in RDR, it's like a big friend reunion for a few weeks, as like every night 8 - 12 of my friends are on XBL, playing games, chappin it up, drinking beers and having a blast. With only 2 or 3 having good enough PCs and then, maybe not even having a good enough PC for the *next* big game, that social component doesn't exist for us.
1) The majority of my friends are console gamers now, like I am, and many of us were PC gamers -- or at least had PCs as well. THe #1 benefit to us on PC was playing online, but really, X-Box Live does that better for us now than the PC and a bunch of apps and programs ever did.
2) Price, which also matters for many of my friends. Most of us used to have new PCs, but now, most of us use laptops and tablets for regular computer use.. like using Facebook and stuff, and so our desktop PCs are dated an dless used. I use my desktop for work, but even then, I still do a lot of work on my less powered laptop.
3) The necessity to upgrade. When I do play PC games, I play games from 5+ years ago, or games with lower demands... Sure, I could probably get better graphics, etc., but it's a pain for me.
4) The hassle of playing PC games, and this may not be the case anymore, but for quite a while, when the latest generation of consoles game out... all I needed to do was put in a disc and the game loaded and I was playing. NO worries about "will my system handle it," or "I wonder if I can tweek this config to get better settings," or "nuts, I'm running at only 25 FPS while my friends are all running at 60fps.. and they have an advantage, etc." I know that the experience is the same for me and pretty much everybody else.
Now, some of these may be myths... But right now, I don't need a reason to stay from PC gaming, I need a reason to come back to PC gaming, and there isn't a compelling one for me. The biggest one, though, is #1... the social component that is so expertly built into my 360 and my close group of friends. The 360 has been cheap enough for a few years now that all of my guy friends have one, and so whenever a big multuplayer game comes out like CoD, or even the multiplayer in RDR, it's like a big friend reunion for a few weeks, as like every night 8 - 12 of my friends are on XBL, playing games, chappin it up, drinking beers and having a blast. With only 2 or 3 having good enough PCs and then, maybe not even having a good enough PC for the *next* big game, that social component doesn't exist for us.
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Ysiadmihi said:
JRPGs are the predominant genre that I play, and I select my systems based on what I will spend my limited amount of time on. Of course, that doesn't mean I won't play other games, but it also doesn't warrant enough reason for me to build a new desktop right now.
As previously mentioned, I have gone back and forth between PC & console before.
Once BF3 is out, a game which I think I'll spend the majority amount of gaming time on, then I'll build a new tower and switch over.
Yet, equally, when I get tired of BF3 I'll most likely just abandon PC gaming again, unless something else really catches my attention.
I don't see how this is any different from the time when I was a PC gamer to play civ and historical city building games(Caeser 3), and didn't think I needed to get a console.
I'm not out on a quest to play every game out there...and I also don't care about backlogs as many gamers do.
Grinchy
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Although I've stated I'm not necessarily a PC gamer by default, I do wish people didn't use the price argument so often. Sure, there are people who buy $400 videocards, but that really is not necessary. You can build a PC (which you will have a million uses for outside of gaming) for literally $500 with the operating system.
Do you currently own a PC? Did you spend more on it than that when you bought it? Well, you could have built a better one for cheaper. I don't include laptop users, of course. If you need that portability then by all means building a PC just for gaming would be a bit of a waste of money.
Do you currently own a PC? Did you spend more on it than that when you bought it? Well, you could have built a better one for cheaper. I don't include laptop users, of course. If you need that portability then by all means building a PC just for gaming would be a bit of a waste of money.
StevieP said:
I bootcamped win7 last week to play FF XIV. Last year i had a sony vaio for a while which i used win7 64 bit too. I still dont like the user interface and many otehr stuff which is such a hassle when compared with mac Osx. Whenever i install osmething on windows i feel like that new software is raping to my folders and installing bits and pieces everywhere.
As i said before i use mac osx for work related stuff i would gladly use an pc OS just created for games and nothing else in it. Steam OS without a windows would be a fantastic thing imo, or google os maybe.
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So long as you only use 1 tab.Grinchy said:
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water_wendi said:
That's fine, although I'm positive you're exaggerating about the 5 minutes. It takes longer than that just to see an installation fail. Nevertheless, point taken. I've never had a game I couldn't get to run, but many, many times it's enough of an effort to annoy me.
The point is, many millions of people aren't interested in solving problems, even 5 minute ones, in order to play a game. And that's a very rational attitude. Why should relaxing begin with a problem?
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At least PC gives you the option to try out older games. You are shit out of luck playing PS2 games on a modern PS3, and MS pretty much gave up on Xbox BC.Leondexter said:
JimboJones
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I recently upgraded my pc with a 256MB stick of ram B)
Chrome and MS word running smooooth.
I might get a proper gaming pc for BlackMesa if it is ever released.
Chrome and MS word running smooooth.
I might get a proper gaming pc for BlackMesa if it is ever released.
Could always just buy those consoles and play the games on them?Stallion Free said:
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What processor and speed?El Sloth said:
phisheep
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I haven't completely abandoned PC gaming, just mostly. I still play text adventures (bless the BAF archive!), I still revisit Grim Fandango, but that's about it.
Oh, and I just bought a PC game for the first time in many years - Pathologic.
But mostly it's consoles for me for a couple of pretty good reasons:
First, PC gaming isn't very sociable. I'm a father with a family and it's kind of expected (and fun) to spend a lot of time with them, so most of my gaming is on the main TV with other people around, either joining in with local multiplayer - which PC is a rotten platform for - or joining in by yelling hints and tips and how stupid I am for not spotting that big door/bomb/fish/sword/chest or whatever.
Second, my PC is a cheap, easily fixable workhorse and rather lightly specified - it is mostly for work (and GAF) or GAF (and work) depending on time of day. It just isn't up to high-end gaming. Plus, it is in my study, which contains endless distractions like books I should be reading, papers I should be writing, an in-tray on the left and a out-tray to the right - not to mention the saxophone and the banjo and the rather nice microscope and the camera. It isn't a good place to game without guilt. When I've done the day's work/investigation/practice and so on I need to get out of there and have some fun someplace else.
Third, I never really got on with keyboard+mouse controls - too much time in arcades when younger spoilt me for decent control schemes.
And last, there's not all that much that appeals to me on PC. Not that I look all that hard you understand, but I'd expect somehow to hear about or trip over a game if it tickles my fancy, and Pathologic is the only one to do that for a long long while.
I'm not blind to the attractions; my son (two rooms along) is a PC gamer with a suitably-spec'd machine. But what he plays isn't stuff that I would play. I don't for example, particularly enjoy games where killing people is a major facet of gameplay, which rules out rather a lot of 'em.
Oh, and I just bought a PC game for the first time in many years - Pathologic.
But mostly it's consoles for me for a couple of pretty good reasons:
First, PC gaming isn't very sociable. I'm a father with a family and it's kind of expected (and fun) to spend a lot of time with them, so most of my gaming is on the main TV with other people around, either joining in with local multiplayer - which PC is a rotten platform for - or joining in by yelling hints and tips and how stupid I am for not spotting that big door/bomb/fish/sword/chest or whatever.
Second, my PC is a cheap, easily fixable workhorse and rather lightly specified - it is mostly for work (and GAF) or GAF (and work) depending on time of day. It just isn't up to high-end gaming. Plus, it is in my study, which contains endless distractions like books I should be reading, papers I should be writing, an in-tray on the left and a out-tray to the right - not to mention the saxophone and the banjo and the rather nice microscope and the camera. It isn't a good place to game without guilt. When I've done the day's work/investigation/practice and so on I need to get out of there and have some fun someplace else.
Third, I never really got on with keyboard+mouse controls - too much time in arcades when younger spoilt me for decent control schemes.
And last, there's not all that much that appeals to me on PC. Not that I look all that hard you understand, but I'd expect somehow to hear about or trip over a game if it tickles my fancy, and Pathologic is the only one to do that for a long long while.
I'm not blind to the attractions; my son (two rooms along) is a PC gamer with a suitably-spec'd machine. But what he plays isn't stuff that I would play. I don't for example, particularly enjoy games where killing people is a major facet of gameplay, which rules out rather a lot of 'em.
Grinchy
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haha nice!El Sloth said:
I had a crappy HP Pavillion laptop for like 7 years. I bought it with my own money at a Circuit City when I was 16, and I loved it so much despite the fact that it was a piece of shit.
By the time it died, I had to prop it up on stacks of CD cases with a fan blowing air underneath it, docked to a a monitor and KB/M. The AC input finally died, which meant I could no longer charge my battery or provide power to the system. It was a sad day indeed
So I know how it is to make due with what you have.
phisheep said:
This is like saying you have a son who plays a lot of COD and Halo and from that you can gather console gaming is all about shooters. There is a lot more to PC gaming that what your son apparently plays, I'm afraid. If you're looking for games where killing people isn't a major part, you're much more likely to find a wider variety of those titles on PC, where indie and generally more experimental games thrive.
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Eccocid said:
Google OS over Windows? Nah.
fizzelopeguss
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"too much tinkering to run well"
vs todays console titles that never run well.
vs todays console titles that never run well.
GuitarAtomik
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Ysiadmihi said:
I think when you guys see "exclusives" you don't realize they're talking about the exclusives they care about. If someone is VERY much in to Nintendo produced games or Sony produced games or whatever, why spend the money on any other platform when those games will never be there?
This is what people are talking about when they mention it.
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It's pretty obvious why I don't. I never upgrade videocards.
My PC runs games, it just doesn't run them amazingly, so I never "need" to buy a videocard. It wont run anything new... it just makes it look better.. That's never something I feel I never have disposable income for... even if I'd gladly buy $200 worth of games.
But since my videocard is shitty I never really feel like playing games on it.
Steam is starting to change my mind. It's a very "console like" environment on the PC. I feel like it's satisfying to collect and play games on it... It's encouraging me to buy my first videocard.....
My PC runs games, it just doesn't run them amazingly, so I never "need" to buy a videocard. It wont run anything new... it just makes it look better.. That's never something I feel I never have disposable income for... even if I'd gladly buy $200 worth of games.
But since my videocard is shitty I never really feel like playing games on it.
Steam is starting to change my mind. It's a very "console like" environment on the PC. I feel like it's satisfying to collect and play games on it... It's encouraging me to buy my first videocard.....
I just don't enjoy PC gaming. I've upgraded my PC, played the big exclusives and multi-platform stuff at the time, with KB/mouse and a 360 pad, and I just don't like it. The only game for PC I'll probably pick up, in the foreseeable future, is The Witcher 2 and that will be after I decide to get a better PC.
I don't even think it has anything to do with a comfy couch since I like playing console stuff in a desk chair.
Just a personal preference.
I don't even think it has anything to do with a comfy couch since I like playing console stuff in a desk chair.
Just a personal preference.
GuitarAtomik
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Ysiadmihi said:
I don't know if I've seen anyone actually say that and I think you're getting that statement confused with "x system has no games I care about". As that would be based on someone's preference, I don't see how you could really call that wrong.
faceless007
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There have absolutely been people in this thread stating as a matter of fact that the PC has far fewer exclusives than consoles. They are wrong.
I will say this. My five-year-old gaming rig completely crushes consoles.
The one I'm currently building utterly decimates my five-year-old rig.
If you care about performance, playability, and visual fidelity even in the slightest, I would seriously consider building a gaming PC.
The one I'm currently building utterly decimates my five-year-old rig.
If you care about performance, playability, and visual fidelity even in the slightest, I would seriously consider building a gaming PC.
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Generally meaning fewer exclusives they are interested in/aware of.faceless007 said:
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faceless007 said:
There are 40 pages to this thread so I don't doubt that and I agree they're wrong. But that's not what the majority of people mentioning exclusives are saying.
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